What are all those small-wheeled bikes you see the cool kids using in Dublin?

They're electric powered, no push off needed. But on the face of it they "appear" as if they aren't.

Little scobe shot out of a driveway in front of me today, gave the fingers and scooted off.

Could have totaled him.

Would get very warm & sweaty in winter under all that canada goose & black north face gear if they had to put in effort

i'm curious OP to the type of bike you mean..can you post a pic as an example

3 apprentices in our company got them on bike to work scheme, working on a hotel site in Dublin City centre. Cost €580 each. So not all scobies in fairness.

This is on sale for €599 with free delivery, and there is a code floating around somewhere to get it discounted to €560.

65kph! :eek: That's a proper death trap. The battery looks like a water bottle holder. Not a bad looking bike to be fair (imo) without the motor.

The guy in the video says there is an electric motor starter in the box that allows you to turn it on, and no need to pedal, just rotate the grip. It's inside the box separate because 'some countries don't allow the motor to be installed'... in other words, illegal or at best, massive safety issue.

They're allowed by default. The fact that they're not actually legal makes no difference if that is not enforced

I'm a fiidophile and I'm neither a teenager or a scrote. It's a great way to get around, really eats up cross city cycles.

I was interested to see if this was the case.

An admittedly quick Google search showed up the following links and stats

There doesn't seem to be any data for Ireland.

The first is a report in the Guardian on ebike deaths in the Netherlands, from three years ago. The figures provided are, to my mind, not particularly clear, but would seem to suggest that, statistically, 51.8 deaths involved ebikes in that year, 38.6 of which were men aged 65 or older

This article suggests that 24% of the population of Holland cycle every day, so 4.14 million people. If we only take the ebike deaths out of that number, 0.001% of bike users.

Let's try narrow down the figure by looking at ebikes only

This pdf, published by the Dutch government in 2018, states that there were 2 million ebikes in the Netherlands at that stage. 52 deaths (to round it up) from 2 million users, accounts for 0.026% of that cohort. That is not even close to 0.1% of people using ebikes dying as a result

"Death traps" strikes me as slightly hyperbolic

I see a lot of them in my area in Dublin as the thread title states. Decent kids with bikes that offer a good bit of range & freedom they yearn at such an age opposed to the much much more dangerous option of a 100bhp "company car" which you see in other parts of the country with disastrous and tragic results. The kids I see are usually fit GAA, camogie & rugby players that have far better reactions than the average 40 something year old in his/her 200bhp Audi "death trap" 😐️

I've never seen the model mentioned on here - much blander looking folding electrics are the choice around East Wall it seems.

can i get fit on an electric bike - Google Search

I'd like to see the data for serious fractures especially hips/pelvis.

At 70 plus a hip break is really bad news; it could mean a few months being immobile with the resultant muscle mass loss and increased mortality risk.

It's a very personal call on the risk/reward given the huge freedom/benefit of keeping cycling/returning to cycling when old.

The loss of independence is a real blow to older people in my experience which won't show up in any study

eBikes have lots of health benefits;

Nothing like having the answer before you look at the data 🤣