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Dental implant

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 nojoke89


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    Nojoke. I tried to get an implant to repair a missing front tooth a good few years back in Galway. I wasn't suitable so ended up getting a bridge. I was recommended a dentist at the time and he was very expensive which really threw me.

    But he was excellent. He did a fantastic job and he has been fantastic since. I have come to the conclusion he was worth every cent. I'm not trying to tell you you can't or indeed shouldn't get it cheaper or that you wouldn't get as good treatment for less but I wouldn't make a different decision again.

    Hopefully you'll take your implant to the grave and if it works and gives you no trouble between now and then it'll be cheap.

    Thank you so much, I really appreciate your viewpoint and I hear what you're saying 100% and for a quality service it requires that bit extra cost.

    I questioned the quote of 3,000 euro to be honest, as with most things when it sounds too good to be true, it might be that it is. But definitely, it was more the shock of hearing some of the estimates I was receiving that spurred me to create this thread and the utter confusion of it all.

    I think even around 4,000 or a bit above would be a bit more realistic for what I can afford just now and I feel its still quite enough to pay really. I'll just try shop around/ do a few consults to see where I'm at and try to compare a bit more before making any decision.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 nojoke89


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    snip

    Brilliant thank you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Hi NSAman, looking down the road of implants myself. Broke my tooth a few weeks ago. What is the process like overall? I'm conscious of the timeframe as I'm getting married early next year so I don't know whether to start treatment or see if I can get away without starting until after the wedding. Worried about being toothless in photos!

    Hi I am not a dentist so can only speak from personal experience.

    It all depends on the consultation with the dentist involved. There are numerous factors, bone density, etc...etc.. to take into consideration.

    First thing first... have that consultation. I am lucky in that I had the bone density and no issues with placement and bone depth.

    Obviously the dentist can advise on the length of treatment better that I could ever guess.

    Good luck if you decide to venture down this road.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    How many visits does the average implant take to complete?

    App 1. I had consultation with X-ray

    App 2. Tooth removal, moulds, implant and temp tooth all in one day.

    App 3. 2 week later for a check up and to have stitches removed.

    App 4. 3 months later back for the final crown.

    Edit to add, my dentist did no bone scan at the beginning. Wish he had of, maybe my bone wasnt suitable to begin with? My implant has failed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭embraer170


    NSAman wrote: »
    I know I am going to be slated for saying this BUT I work abroad (in normal times) months at a time. I got my implants (5) while working abroad. 5K for everything. Professor of dentistry (in the main university) did the surgery, crowns were included in the price.

    You have me wondering where that was?

    I will need a very substantial amount of dental work soon, and investigating options (based in Germany where prices are even worse than Ireland).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭Bicyclette


    I'm starting the process of getting implants, in June.

    In June, I get a tooth removed surgically to protect the bone.
    In July I get two implants placed side by side
    End of July I have a follow up.
    November and December I have two more appointments: Placing the abutments and a scan
    In January I have the crowns/bridge placed.

    Its costing in the region of €5,500 from a dental practice in Limerick.

    Because I am having my teeth done in Ireland, I can claim 20% back off my Med 2 form when I submit it to revenue. You can't claim the 20% back if you go abroad. The 20% does bring down the net cost quite a bit. I will get back about €1,100. Net price then is €4,400. Roughly €2,200 per tooth.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    You can claim back within the EU, i assume the North is ruled out now but not 100% sure.
    But as you can see there's lots of planned trips never mind unexpted trips involved.
    Bicyclette wrote: »
    I'm starting the process of getting implants, in June.

    In June, I get a tooth removed surgically to protect the bone.
    In July I get two implants placed side by side
    End of July I have a follow up.
    November and December I have two more appointments: Placing the abutments and a scan
    In January I have the crowns/bridge placed.

    Its costing in the region of €5,500 from a dental practice in Limerick.

    Because I am having my teeth done in Ireland, I can claim 20% back off my Med 2 form when I submit it to revenue. You can't claim the 20% back if you go abroad. The 20% does bring down the net cost quite a bit. I will get back about €1,100. Net price then is €4,400. Roughly €2,200 per tooth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Rmgblue


    jrosen wrote: »
    App 1. I had consultation with X-ray

    App 2. Tooth removal, moulds, implant and temp tooth all in one day.

    App 3. 2 week later for a check up and to have stitches removed.

    App 4. 3 months later back for the final crown.

    Edit to add, my dentist did no bone scan at the beginning. Wish he had of, maybe my bone wasnt suitable to begin with? My implant has failed.

    So right now (tommorrow) I'm at stage 2. Can you offer any insight into recovery? Basically I'm wondering will I be able to work the weekend? Rostered on fri/sat/sun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,345 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Bicyclette wrote: »
    I

    Because I am having my teeth done in Ireland, I can claim 20% back off my Med 2 form when I submit it to revenue. You can't claim the 20% back if you go abroad. The 20% does bring down the net cost quite a bit. I will get back about €1,100. Net price then is €4,400. Roughly €2,200 per tooth.

    You can claim 20% for treatment outside Ireland, even outside the EU.

    There are no restrictions other than the dental practitioner being registered legally in their country. see: https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/health-and-age/health-expenses/dental-expenses.aspx


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Neworder79


    Anyone have experience of consultants in Ireland who offer non surgical method where it is applicable (doesn't involve opening gum/sutures, uses 3D scanning to ensure correct implant placement leading to easier recovery)?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 naina


    hi



  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭batman75


    I am looking at the possibility of dental implants if I am a suitable candidate. I have caused ruination of my back teeth due to fizzy drinks. I no longer drink them and now need to as much as I can replace the teeth I have rotted. Only ever had two extractions in my life and am mid 40s. The cost of implants is scaring me. But equally I believe dentures can be uncomfortable to wear and I would prefer actual teeth. The dentist I went to today said that it might be possible to extract and have the implant in on the same day. Does that seem plausible?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭markmoto


    Yes that would be a good idea.

    "Shrinking jaw, bone resorption or jaw bone atrophy is the reduction of jaw bone mass over time, and a common result of long term missing teeth or denture wear."



  • Registered Users Posts: 41 WindWarrior


    I need to get 2 implants done and am unable to pay the cost upfront. Does anyone know of any clinics that do payment plans for implant work?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    Has your dentist asked you to pay up front? You should be able to spread the cost over the term of your treatment.

    3dental do payment plans and also do implants but I have no experience of them in this area.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭markmoto


    Sometime cheaper to do bridge. A separate implant needs to be surgically attached to your jawbone for each missing tooth, leading to expensive and often impractical surgery.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You wouldn’t be concerned about the long term implications of drilling two teeth in the process? Something that is entirely avoidable if an implant is placed.

    As a matter of interest, in your opinion, what makes implant surgery impractical?



  • Registered Users Posts: 41 WindWarrior


    Thanks for your reply. Will check out 3dental. Had only enquired with one place and it was payment upfront so assumed it was the norm everywhere else.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭jrosen


    Wasnt with my dentist. I dont pay anything upfront anymore if the service is carried out over a period of time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭batman75


    Dentist I saw today reckons I would ideally need a complete upper and lower set at an approx cost of 15k each. I'm rattled to hear this. I have an appointment with a specialist for Monday week to see if I'm a candidate. What the dentist envisaged would require pulling out teeth a number at a time. Until I see the specialist it is all just hypothetical.

    I'm rattled by what I was told today. Yes I do know that doctors differ and patients die etc. I'm having a hard time psychologically with the prospect of losing my teeth. I could get a temporary denture to tie me over. I don't think I could function missing a number of teeth in a row in any part of my mouth.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The important word there is “ideally”, if you have got to the point where there is little option but to remove your teeth, a much cheaper option is to replace them with dentures.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭batman75


    From what I'm reading the crown, which is the actual tooth can last up to 15 years while the actual implant which supports the crown can last up to 25 years all things going well. Whilst I may not be suitable for implants I found that interesting.



  • Registered Users Posts: 616 ✭✭✭batman75


    Went to a specialist today. He took an x ray to see what was going on with my teeth in general. I am most likely suitable for implants. He wants my diseased teeth removed before making a further assessment. He quoted me a price of 3'250 per implant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭DRice


    Where is everyone going with the prices. Every surgery i hace contacted gave me sub 2k quotes (implant including crown) . 3dental quoted €1.4k. Is all the xrays and consultations making it €3k do i need to go back and get a more realistic quotes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Quotes over the phone are low balls...without a consultation you have not gotten a quote only the lowest possible price for the simplest implant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 villardentistry


    A dental implant consists of an artificial tooth with a root, a post, and a crown. The root is placed in the jaw and allowed to heal. Once the healing is completed (anywhere from three to six months), the post and crown are added to allow the implant to function just like a real tooth!



  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭tbarry31


    I see online that All on Four can be done in 1 day and fitted with temporary teeth. How can they do it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,495 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    No crowns involved, just implants with magnetic tops - afaik. IANAD.

    Edit: thought they were magnetic, not threaded as per below. Luckily, as I said, IANAD... ☺️

    Post edited by Esel on

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Nope, all on 4 is as it sounds. 4 implants (more than 4 is better) to support an arch of teeth screwed in, non removable. You can put immediate temporary teeth on them day of insertion in certain cases. Its an advanced proceedure and requires careful, knowledgeable and practiced clinicians to plan and carry it out well. Its not the sort of proceedure a patient should self prescribe, or you might fall foul of the less ethical clinics that over prescribe this treatment to all patients cause its got good market buzz and its fairly profitable. Its incredible destructive of jaw bone in the wrong patient.

    Go to your trusted family dentist and ask for a recommendation for treatment and a suitable specialist if needed. Don't "do your own research", without a lot of in-depth information on your specific clinical situation, risk factors and options you cannot know if this is a good treatment for you, and may as I said fall into the trap of just going with whoever tell you what you think you want to hear.



  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭tbarry31


    Thanks for the reply. I have quiet a few sensitive teeth I have got filling's in 2 and was hoping that would solve it but it hasn't. My guess was that the 2 teeth that were sensitive were setting off some other teeth. My 2 front teeth have a arch in them so will need to be fixed.

    In people's Opinion and only looking for opinion to cure or treat sensitive teeth what should my dentist be doing. I have no knowledge of this so this is why I am asking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Oh Jesus...sound like you need a little basic dental work, All on 4 is for people that need all their teeth removed due to severe problems. Just go to a dentist and get advice, stay awat from the internet on this stuff, everyone is trying to sell you something.



  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭tbarry31


    Thanks for your reply it's appreciated. For any dentist on here what would you look for if I came to your dentist with 4 or 5 sensitive teeth and what treatment would you suggest.


    thanks in advance

    tony



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    A dentist will look for the cause and treat accordingly. It is impossible to advise without actually seeing the teeth involved, they could be heavily filled/have leaking fillings/fractured/exposed roots/exposed dentine due to erosion or abrasion etc. Your dentist will advise.



  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭nickkohl


    I’ve not got an implant yet. But as soon as the bone is healed from my recently removed post/crown, I will be getting one. Reason being, at the moment I have to put up with a denture and by God it is the worst thing ever. Can’t eat properly, can’t talk properly and forever contorting my face to feel it with my tongue. Misery. Utter misery. Gonna check out this Dental Laboratory to get consulted

    Post edited by nickkohl on


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭tele2020


    €8900 for full arch implant. Seems ok value.



    Anyone had the experience with them or is there anywhere else even cheaper? Thanks



  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭tele2020


    ok so this escalated quickly.



    €9,700 - €15,400 same people, same website, different pages.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 lapeer


    Search for the dentistry near you or affordable dentist near by your city or locations. May this can help. Hope you get best dentist which you are searching for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I would be wary of this... it takes months to have an implant completed and thats inly if all of the original tooth is gone and bone has healed... its a year if part of the original tooth needs to ne removed... I takes minimum of 3 trips so abroad not too practikcal...



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 TripAdvisor


    Re your comment on implants as “life changing “, is this in a good and positive way, I need to get implants and I’m absolutely terrified



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    It's not nice to have done but it's not that bad if your teeth are in a state where you need implants you probably have been through worse already. You'll feel much better when its done.



  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭tele2020




  • Registered Users Posts: 1 durbinrichard544


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 SionLambert


    It's interesting to hear your perspective on the medical card scheme and how it affects dentistry. It sounds like there are some significant limitations and restrictions that can make it challenging for dentists to provide the level of care they would like to.



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