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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    You tell the pubs if they do not abide by the rules they get closed down for a month and fine them. Get a couple of police to walk around the pubs in a town and if that goes on shut them down. Easy !

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Or, and this is a big one, you just don't stay in place you're not comfortable in and let others get on with what they're doing. I know, I know, the "guidelines" and all that but personal responsibility is the way forward. Don't like it, don't stay there and go somewhere else.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I do too, cant stop thinking of the pay outs being made after young people were damaged by the swine flu vaccine, we were assured then too that this vaccine was safe.

    Many of those young people queuing up have already had covid so taking a vaccine could harm them greatly. They atent thinkkng this through, they want their lives back and the Government is patting them on the head.

    There is no talk about on campus third level opening and its August now, there seems to be no plan in place and no firm committment given that young people wont be spending the next year of college life in their bedrooms too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,157 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Why would you want Garda walking into pubs checking this nonsense though? There's a million and one other things they could be better serving their time doing.


    You've touched on a very valid point though. This government have behaved absolutely appallingly when it comes to distinguishing between what is "advice" and what the actual laws are. It's at the point whereby I'm not even sure they know anymore. And that is a disgraceful way to run a country.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Or just leave things as they are. Cases are stable despite this kind of thing having been happening for weeks. Same in the UK and we now have a higher vaccination rate

    Too many people want COVID gone, but what we actually need is to find a balance where we get out and mingle, inside, and get back to normal while not having a spike in hospitalisations. If our cases stay at this level despite us all getting out and about and back to normal, then great. Bring it on and let us all stop hiding away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,532 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well I haven't went to a pub or indoor restaurant yet and it'll be quite a while before I do.

    I've enjoyed the outdoor experience and I'm happy to stick to that for now as every place seems packed to the rafters.

    When it quietens down I'll go for a meal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Sorry would you like to back up your claim that young people are taking a vaccine that could harm them ?

    Either provide a source to your claim or don't bother coming out with unsubstantiated claims and quite frankly dangerous sentences

    As for colleges, have you not heard of the much publicised antigen pilot to be rolled out for the beginning of term? Many colleges have a blended learning plan ready to go, I know one Dublin college is ready to go as soon as government issue the go ahead to return to campus in September. An update was issued by the ministers at the joint committee on education

    “At the very minimum, on-site activity next year will include laboratory teaching and learning, classroom-based teaching and learning, tutorials, workshops, smaller lectures, research, return to work spaces and access to libraries with appropriate protective measures in place"




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Just put of the airport there. Not a single person was checked for vaccine certe or PCR tests upon boarding the plane nor at customs in Dublin airport. Literally nobody saw any proof of me having done a PCR test or having filled out a passenger locator form.

    Yet tomorrow I won't be allowed sit in a coffee shop on my own.


    Mad oul system tbh..


    Tl:dr... I can enter Ireland without a vaccine/PCR test on a 99% full plane but I can't sit in a coffee shop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    I should hope you don't go sitting in a coffee shop if that's what happened at Dublin airport. I think it's best you isolate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Of course you can sit in a coffee shop if you find one that doesn't bother with the rules like your experience in the airport. Can't really compare the two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    My mother went to Spain on Friday, it took me an hour to sort out the form about where she was staying for her because she never had a clue. I sent her a text a couple of days after she got there asking how it went and she said they just let everyone through, never even checked passports or anything

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why? He’s got a negative test and / or is vaccinated. We need to stop living in this fear



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I see the US CDC has added us to a DO NOT TRAVEL list.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/traveler/none/ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Hmm..when I click the link I don't get the same thing. It says:

    Level 4: COVID-19 Very High

    • Updated  COVID-19 in Ireland
    • August 02, 2021
    • Avoid travel to Ireland. If you must travel to Ireland, make sure you are fully vaccinated before travel.




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have heard from a Third Level Admin person that the plan is one day a week in college.

    Its now August and the Minsister for Higher Education has gone on holidays, when is he back. I dont see anything in what you posted that is a committment to the return of full on campus education and I am pretty certain it will be one day a week, thats an improvement of 100 per cent though seeing as first year students last year never set foot on campus.

    I paid six thousand euros in uni fees last year and will pay 9000 this year so I would like a firm committment at this stage as to what value my children get for this money.

    As for vaccine safety, you have no clue of the long term effects of these vaccines, it is now proposed that twelve year olds be innoculated in the same week payments wete made to young people affected by the swine flu vaccines.

    I listened to experts then too and brought my children for those vaccines, a decision I bitterly regretted.

    So stop trying to stifle discussion, You may be a Government employee so dont want any criticism, this is a discussion forum, you can attempt to control what people post but you wont control our thoughts.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The big clue is in”smaller lectures”, how can lecture numbers be smaller when numbers going to College are bigger

    Solution one day a week for everyone and the test of the time Zoom tutorials.

    Watch this space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Nope.

    Cant compare some publicans following guidelines and others having absolutely not regard from them.

    I was in two pubs on Camden street - Devitts was perfect and safe, Ryan’s was like a pub on paddy’s day - no masks, no social distancing, no table service and three people deep at the bar.

    Cant compare them mate, sorry if I upset you though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    So you can't provide a source for anything you post re vaccines being dangerous for young people? No one is trying to stifle discussion except maybe you. Post what you like but when don't be sour when someone calls you on it.

    Can't help but feel a bit of deja vu reading your posts, wonder which rereg you are ;)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Nope, no government employee here, I work in the private sector, not that it's an of your business quite frankly.

    You made a claim and I quote, "Many of those young people queuing up have already had covid so taking a vaccine could harm them greatly."

    Please provide a source for that claim, it's a discussion forum but we've all been told before if we're going to make a statement be able to back it up. So are you able to back up the statement that you've made ?? Yes or no it's very straightforward. If you can't back up your statement then you've made an unsubstantiated claim.

    Post what you like but when you post something and are called out on it be able to back it up



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You cant provide a source either that these vaccines wont cause issues for young people who are still growing.

    we can see from Government compensation payouts that the swine flu vaccinations did cause life long health problems in young people. We were assured these vaccines were safe.

    Expectant mothers were assured to was safe to take thalidome for morning sickness and until babies were born with deformities.

    Experts will acknowledge there are heart enlargement issues with pfizer, One expert I heard on RTE said this side effect would be greater as you moved down age cohorts, she said the hearts would revert to normal size though do not really an issue.!!!!!

    I dont know what decision i would make if my children were twelve, I would be having sleepless nights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    I didn't make a claim you did, therefore the onus is on you to backup your claim. That's how this works. You've been around these threads clearly long enough to know that.

    So bottom line you can't back up what you've posted, that's what I thought. Nice little ramble as usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    It's actually embarrassing at this stage, make a statement and discuss all day long but if your called out to back it up at least make an attempt & likewise there's a large whiff of deja vu coming from the posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,752 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Everyone inside should be vaccinated. If you're fearful of a busy indoor setting then find somewhere quieter or stay at home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gral6


    ''Ministers are due to meet virtually this week to discuss fresh concerns around the rising number of Covid-19 patients in hospital and intensive care.''


    It looks like some restrictions are going to be re-imposed again!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    They should be on the basis of what I seen over the weekend. I hate to say it but the Irish drinking culture is a big issue



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It will be hilarious if we try to bring in more restrictions as nearly everybody is vaccinated now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,752 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Ah here, can they not hold their nerve a little!?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    I think they’ll spread it out to force students to take accommodation, it’ll be more like 1 lecture a day, or every second, and the rest online. Paying through the teeth to sit in a bedroom watching a laptop. And just wait for the finger pointing when there’s an outbreak, something which is inevitable and should not make the news. 🙄



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