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No August is not the start of Autumn

  • 01-08-2021 10:15AM
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    Today, August 1st, is not the start of Autumn. Summer is June, July & August. We are in the Northern hemisphere which has the same seasons throughout. There is no mysterious weather phenomenon enveloping Ireland that gives us different seasons to the rest of the hemisphere.

    The "Irish summer" of May, June, July is complete and utter bullshit. Please stop it. And before anyone says it, no farmers do not set the seasons.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭IRE60


    Jasus - keep the togs on! And punctuate that headline.



  • Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah the summer togs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    August makes more sense as autumn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭pcadhain


    Do you propose we stop calling September "Meán Fomhair" (middle of Autumn) and October "Deireadh Fómhair" (end of Autumn)?

    Irish calendar - Wikipedia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,172 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    You'd have a point if July was renamed to "September". Fecking Caesar ruined it for everyone.



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  • Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes exactly, the same way we stopped calling November 1st the start of the new year.

    I mean you can still use the Irish words and recognise its original meaning, but just stop taking it literally. Similar how we say Dia Dhuit and don't literally mean "God be with you", we just mean "hello".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    August is, most definitely, Autumn.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,806 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Everyone knows the Irish summer started 10 days ago and ended last Friday. Everything before that was winter and everything after that is winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,837 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Our heating went on last night for the 1st time this 'summer', so it must be autumn!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    Agreed OP. June, July and August are our warmest months. The kids are on their summer holidays not their Autumn holidays. Usually still have plenty of growth and colour in the garden etc. Also November is not Winter, February is colder and more likely that we would get snow in February then in November.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,168 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Would agree. August is definitely autumn - early autumn but autumn no less.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Nah, seasons are feelings of the senses. They're in romance not science. Autumn starts mostly sometime towards the 2nd part of September and continues towards end of November. Winter closes in early December and lasts forever into somewhere at the start of March. Spring, brief and lovely, comes mid March into the 1st big bright warm sunny day on May. Summer is from May to September.

    It not just temperature. It's colours and light and smells and people's reaction to it. It's not the dead hand of some monk's want or an ancient king's edict or a 19th century meteorologist's method of clarification.

    If you set dates on seasons your heart is dead and lacks the ability to embrace natural emotions and you are forever frozen in a pedantic academic winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭Isambard


    longest day c21 June, ie Midsummer. Autumn begins about a month and half later, ie at the end of the second half of summer, roughly 7th August


    If you want to simplify it just based on the normal weather. Spring: March April May, Summer: June July August, Autumn: Sept Oct Nov and Winter:Dec Jan Feb.


    May June July as Summer actually closer



  • Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Point proven, Irish people do not understand the seasons. You don't get to just make it up yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Allinall




  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I got an email from Lifestyle this morning listing runners that I need for Fall.🙄

    I definitely think today is the first day of Autumn, it even feels like it, I too was tempted to put the heating on the last few nights but made a hot water bottle instead. ☺️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭source


    The Celtic seasons which we observe are different to the meteorological seasons, they're based around the summer and winter solstace. Longest day is mid summer, shortest is mid winter.

    It's not arbitrary and has nothing to do with farmers, it's based on a natural phenomenon which makes more sense than the seasons observed by the rest of the northern hemisphere.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    August is the final month of summer. About the only things Autumnal about this month is the harvest at the end and perhaps the longer nights.

    So IMO we have another month of Summer. As so many boardsies loathe sunny and warm weather, I have a feeling these same individuals actually want Summer to be over already.

    Well...it’s not. 😎☀️☀️☀️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Shakey_jake


    Only killjoys think august is the start of autumn, i actually consider sept a summer / autumn hybrid



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Yup - I think the idea of summer being May/Jun/Jul is also around longer than Jun/Jul/Aug too.

    Our weather is too changeable to base seasons off. The grand stretch in the evening though - which is what we do base it off - is very reliable.

    I always find it funny that some people get their knickers in such a twist over something uniquely Irish, when we should be celebrating it as part of our unique culture.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well in English September means the 7th month, October means the 8th month, November the 9th, December the 10th.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Housefree


    We have cambers to tell us, when the light shines in for the Autumn Equinox at Loughcrew Cairns. And the little people drink whiskey and play some music. The Autumn has begun



  • Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sure, didn't even have a proper spring this year and I have the (late planted due to frost) veg garden to prove it. To those saying summer is over... have you the cruelty of heart to stand among half-grown veggies and shout "You're getting two weeks summer this year and that IT! Now hurry up and feed me."

    Didn't think so :D



  • Posts: 363 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    August almost always has crappy weather, even when we got unusually hot summer weather in 2006, 2013, 2014 and 2018 August was a write off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,397 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    So you want September to be the 7th month, October the 8th, November 9th and December the 10th? That makes sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,840 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,735 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    In twenty years time nobody will give a **** what month it is!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,840 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Is there a way to set a reminder for 20yesrs here?

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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