Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

At least the judge will be keeping dangerous (!) characters off the street…

They should ride first to the Department of Transport and then to the Civic Offices. That's where the blame for this mess lies.

The Judge only made a legal ruling on the crap conduct of the Authorities.

At least the judge considered some of the consequences. That is more than Owen Keegan has done.

I'm glad someone has.

That's totally and utterly the wrong logic.

It was by attempting to side step quite obvious planning thresholds that ended them up in Court in the first place.

I don't know why you think NIMBYs are to blame here ahead of an incompetent City Council. What would your view be if the same Council was attempting to circumvent legislation to railroad a measure through on your doorstep, say a drainage scheme or a housing project?

That's not accurate, Trudee. People always fear the increase in traffic due to a cycle lane but it doesn't happen. Even in Paris, where the entire run of the lower quays along the Seine was made into gardens, cycleways and walkways (the quays have a roadway above and another below beside the river), there was a tiny, tiny increase. When a protected cycleway is built separated from other traffic, people use it, and get out of their cars to use it. So a lot of people who would be driving now cycle.

And seriously, if the people of Sandymount really envisaged trucks rat-running through their suburb, the obvious thing to do would be to go to the council and request strategically placed bollards at one end of streets, so it would be possible to drive in and drive out, but not to drive through. This would make rat-running impossible.

Delighted with that judgement. This should put a halt to other schemes to take away road space.

What I particularly like about the judgement is that the very group that stopped the construction of 1000 homes on the northside of Dublin in the courts in a housing crisis have themselves now been stuffed on technicalities.

What goes around, come around

You can have no complaints at all.

Page 14 of above judgement and also attached full traffic analysis from DCC website so you can take it up with NTA/DCC if you find their results 'odd'

Leaving aside accusations of empire building in some of our local authorities, the sooner greater Dublin has a directly elected Mayor with executive powers, the better for the strategic direction of this City.

Some of the responses are so absurd on Twitter talking about the "climate emergency" and how we are all doomed. Crazy stuff.

If you want to lobby for cycle lanes by all means but when people don't want them in their area you need to just accept it and move on or put them somewhere else.

What the larger area really needs in my view is the long delayed M50 Eastern Bypass motorway.

Good day for the residents and local democracy.👍

@Weepsie Cars are the main means of transport. That's the reality. Sure you can encourage people to use other modes but most will never give up the privacy and comfort of their cars and why would they?

The alternatives are unattractive anyway. The red line Luas is plagued with anti social behaviour to the extent many simply refuse to use it. The DART has feral gangs of youths getting on and off as they please free of charge intimidating and assaulting people on a daily basis. No transport police. To this day without a car you still need a bus to get to the airport, still no high capacity fast metro, most just take their cars...I could go on and on.

Other modes are just not attractive in Dublin in my opinion.

If only as much effort was put in to the myriad of issues with public transport you might be getting somewhere.

Yes, we must definitely be sure to protect the health service by not promoting cycling or anything.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-39641122