Would you be happy for your children to receive covid-19 vaccine

The amount of pontification from some posters here is comical :D

It's almost like you are picking and choosing data. Swabs in the nose and throats of vaccinated people are similar to unvaccinated, yet the course of illness is shorter so it stands to reason that the infectious period is going to be shorter.

Anyway I'm not sure what point you're trying to make other than nitpicking. 0.098% of vaccinated people are seeing breakthrough infections in the US, and this is still (as the CDC director repeated yesterday) a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

I have not read the whole thread yet but am intending to. I would just like to inquire where can I get photo ID for a 16 year old in the next couple of weeks please. Anything I’ve looked up other than a passport seems to be for over 18 only. Would appreciate if anyone can help.

Thanks so much.

🙄 What, they have to use exactly that formula of words?! Jebus... What's wrong with "We recommend the vaccine for the 12-15 age group because the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks of the virus", like they announced tonight?

Parents urged to avail of Covid-19 vaccine

The Chair of the National Immunisation Advisory Committee recommended that parents of any child with an underlying medical condition should avail of a Covid-19 vaccine at the earliest opportunity.

"If you have a child with an underlying medical condition, absolutely avail of it at the earliest opportunity. If you have a child, for example, that is living in a household where there are other people at risk, absolutely avail of it at the earliest opportunity," Professor Karina Butler said.

She said that vaccination is primarily for benefit of children themselves. She told the briefing that the benefits outweigh the risks, but parents are entitled to make their own decision. Prof Butler also said that the uptake of Covid-19 vaccines in young people has really been "quite remarkable".

Warning over misinformation

The Deputy Chief Medical Officer has warned parents of misinformation on social media around vaccinating children.

Dr Ronan Glynn said it is important that parents do not assume that everything they see on social media is accurate.

He advised parents not to share anything on social media or messaging groups unless the data is verified and found from multiple, different reputable sources.

Garda age card is for over 18’s only. How about a Childs leap card. The leap card for a child age 16-18 has a photo on it.

Not sure how you made that connection to ask that question.

How about giving your own views for clarity did you get jabbed and what's your opinion of vaccinating younger age groups?

@ grofus2

Hey, didn't I tell you that when you combine 'the vaccine' with a five day course of Fentimans Curiosity Cola, it will disable the magnetic nanoparticles, and THEY won't be able to track you via 5G???

Meanwhile, in the real world:

Antivaxers in the UK want to gather the names of medical professionals, so they can be executed. No joke.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/26/met-police-investigate-anti-vaxxer-as-speech-sparks-fears-for-safety-of-medics

Why thanks for asking, I'm double vaccinated with Moderna for some time now.

What I don't agree with is coercion and attempts to force vaccination on children that frankly do not need it, to satisfy the endless selfishness of the cowardly, for spurious reasoning such as 'eliminating any chance of mutation' (doesn't stand up, especially with US CDC now suggesting the level of virus in infected vaccinated people is "indistinguishable” from the level of virus in unvaccinated people) or for fear of imaginary/speculative long term effects in asymptomatic kids that we have no evidence even exist yet.

If your kids are immuno compromised go for it or for any reason you want then go for it, but denying the right to education to others (where this is going in the end) is unjustified imo.

The pontificating from people in this thread looking down their noses is pathetic, throwing out terms like anti vaxxer, even wishing covid on people. Ridiculous.

1. Grofus is threadbanned and shouldn't be posting here;
2. Last Saturday's anti-vaxxer protest in Dublin had exactly the same!

It what you posted is tosh. This is the type of crap half truths( actually maybe you could call them downright lies) that put people health at danger.

The winter flu causes people to die but if other illnesses. Because it around 100 years we do not record it as a complicating factor.

No vaccine ( and it has been posted thousands of times but thick and ignorant people still refuse to accept this fact) whether for MMR, polio or any other disease will give immunity to 100% of it recipients.

At present this is a disease of the unvaccinated. The people who are getting really sick are those that have not been vaccinated. But because these are younger adults and children we do not have high hospitalisation and death occuring.

If you choose not to be vaccinated then I hat is you choice. But limits to personnel freedom are not wrong. If you drive a car you need a licence. If you drive recklessly that license can be taken off you.

We limited the personnel freedom of smokers to when and where they could smoke because it endangered other people's health.

If you choose not to be vaccinated why should you be allowed to endanger the health if others. The government has decided not to put the right to education behind the right to health. Other countries do with insistence that children be vaccinated with MMR and against TB and polio because there is a percentage that can never take a vaccine and herd immunity protects them. If we ever get a high rate of non vaccination we may go down that road.

I suppose that mass burials in NY and the army in Italy shipping bodies to be cremated were all propaganda video's.

Go see a doctor about you delusions

absolute nonsense ... .adverse effects have a heavily regulated and transparent mechanisms and processes for a long time.

Not sure I understand your sentence but my main point is that claiming that people not taking a vaccine is like driving recklessly is ludicrous.

I was talking about your claim that adverse events are underreported which you followed up with a fearmongering weblink

"most kids won't be seriously affected by COVID, some will be;" - then clearly those kids should get the vaccine. That's their or their parents choice, no one is stopping them. Seems like a good idea to me.

"to stop onward transmission to more vulnerable people;" - Vaccines apparently do lower transmission by lowering the amount of time symptoms occur (coughing, sneezing etc) but kids are by and large asymptomatic and the data shows us this conclusively. Lower symptoms (the only way these vaccines reduce transmission) does not really apply to children.

"to stop COVID becoming endemic; to stop further variants emerging" - vaccinating children won't stop this for the same reason, transmission occurs amongst the vaccinated = mutations and variants naturally remain possible.

"Everyone in my house is vaccinated; everyone I work closely with is either vaccinated or has had the first of two jabs." - Good for you, get out and enjoy yourself and don't be worrying about other peoples kids.