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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    New Home wrote: »

    On May 25, 1910, Orville flew for six minutes with Wilbur as his passenger—marking the first and only flight the brothers would make together. That same day, Orville took his 82-year-old father out for the first and only flight of his life.

    In 1912, Wilbur died of typhoid fever. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭b318isp


    The length of the Wright Brother's first flight was about the length of one of the Airbus A380's wings (36m to 36.3m).


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    b318isp wrote: »
    The length of the Wright Brother's first flight was about the length of one of the Airbus A380's wings (36m to 36.3m).

    Orville's last flight was in a Lockheed Constellation in 1944, whose wingspan exceeded that of the length of their first flight. He may have flown it for a short distance, but that isn't verified.

    He died in January 1948, the sound barrier was broken by a plane for the first time 3 months before his death in October 1947. He was born in 1871, 15 years before the first motor car (as we know them today) was invented.

    John T. Daniels, who took this famous picture of their first flight, coincidentally died the day after Orville.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Also, Neil Armstrong was born about an hours drive from where the Wright brothers grew up in Dayton. He took a bit of the fabric and a piece of the frame from the Wright Flyer with him to the moon.

    A piece of it is also attached to the Ingenuity helicopter on Mars.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,902 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    KevRossi wrote: »

    He died in January 1948, the sound barrier was broken by a plane for the first time 3 months before his death in October 1947. He was born in 1871, 15 years before the first motor car (as we know them today) was invented.

    It's amazing how fast things progressed in aviation. The first flight, just a few tentative meters, was in 1903; only 8 years later planes were used in war for the first time, by Italy against the Turks. At the start of WWI, only barely a decade after they were invented, they had changed how armies did reconnaissance, and were pretty soon central to everyone's war effort.

    Like, people talk about how quickly smart phones changed our society, but to me that's much more crazy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    It's amazing how fast things progressed in aviation. The first flight, just a few tentative meters, was in 1903; only 8 years later planes were used in war for the first time, by Italy against the Turks. At the start of WWI, only barely a decade after they were invented, they had changed how armies did reconnaissance, and were pretty soon central to everyone's war effort.

    Like, people talk about how quickly smart phones changed our society, but to me that's much more crazy.

    The first proper controlled flight by the Wright brothers was in September 1904. By this they had a controlled take off, did a number of circles and controlled moves and did a controlled land at their own discretion.

    Louis Bleriot (possibly 'borrowing' information from Voisin) made the first aeroplane with controls as we know it today in November 1907, but it only flew 500m. It was 1909 by the time he made a proper, halfways reliable airplane.

    Incidentally Bleriot also developed the worlds first proper headlamps for cars back in the 1890's.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    It's amazing how fast things progressed in aviation. The first flight, just a few tentative meters, was in 1903; only 8 years later planes were used in war for the first time, by Italy against the Turks. At the start of WWI, only barely a decade after they were invented, they had changed how armies did reconnaissance, and were pretty soon central to everyone's war effort.

    Like, people talk about how quickly smart phones changed our society, but to me that's much more crazy.

    This was 1895, Otto Lilienthal, obviously still without an engine.
    ...because it's not only the the fast development of flying as such that's astounding, but also the fast development of ever lighter and stronger engines and ever better materials that made it all possible

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Lichtenstein is a tiny country between Switzerland and Austria. Women only got the vote there in 1984.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Lichtenstein is a tiny country between Switzerland and Austria. Women only got the vote there in 1984.


    and women in Switzerland only got the Fed vote in '71.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    humberklog wrote: »
    and women in Switzerland only got the Fed vote in '71.

    That's the federal vote.

    On the regional level it took a bit longer. The last Swiss "canton" to allow women to vote was Appenzell Innerrhoden on 29th of April 1990.
    And that was against the majority vote of the canton's men, they had to be overruled by the Swiss federal court.

    This is where those guys live


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,626 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    They go through 54,000 tennis balls every Wimbledon. :eek:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Dogs would go mad. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,508 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Lichtenstein is a tiny country between Switzerland and Austria. Women only got the vote there in 1984.

    Liechtenstein has been on my list of countries to visit ever since I read Stamping Grounds by Charlie Connolly years ago.

    It is one of only 2 doubly-landlocked countries in the world.
    It had the highest GDP by PPP for years, at over €100,00 pa and regularly has an unemployment rate of 0%.
    It is the only country in the world with a German-speaking majority that doesn't have a border with Germany
    It is effectively the last member state of the Holy Roman Empire still in existence - it was part of the empire form 1200-ish onwards, but a member of the ruling Liechtenstein family didn't set foot in it until 1818.
    The country has had no army since 1866, after it sent 80 men to the Austro-Prussian war and 81 returned - an Austrian soldier decided to return back with them.

    Further Liechtenstein military history from wikipedia:
    During the 1980s the Swiss Army fired off shells during an exercise and mistakenly burned a patch of forest inside Liechtenstein. The incident was said to have been resolved "over a case of white wine".[73]

    In March 2007, a 170-man Swiss infantry unit got lost during a training exercise and inadvertently crossed 1.5 km (0.9 miles) into Liechtenstein. The accidental invasion ended when the unit realized their mistake and turned back.[84] The Swiss Army later informed Liechtenstein of the incursion and offered official apologies,[85] to which an internal ministry spokesperson responded, "No problem, these things happen."[86]


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    To all the young 'uns out there buying LP's for the first time. NEVER open it with a blade. This is a far easier method. Also protects the edge of the album and makes it keep it's value more in the future.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The number of registered passenger cars in the Republic of Ireland rose from 801,000 in 1990 to 2,128,000 in 2018 - a rise of 166%.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/452305/ireland-number-of-registered-passenger-cars/

    Meanwhile (from the population pyramid website), the number of people aged 15 and over (roughly corresponding to the adult potential car-owning population) only increased by 32.5% over that same timespan (from about 2.86 million to 3.79 million).

    A lot of the increase occurred between 1990 and 2000, with the similarly-measured adult population rising just 3.9% and the number of registered cars rising by 66.4%.

    On another note, the population of the Republic of Ireland is fast approaching 5 million, with the worldometers website estimating it to be around 4.993 million today, up from around 4.819 million in 2018.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    The number of registered passenger cars in the Republic of Ireland rose from 801,000 in 1990 to 2,128,000 in 2018 - a rise of 166%.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/452305/ireland-number-of-registered-passenger-cars/

    Meanwhile (from the population pyramid website), the number of people aged 15 and over (roughly corresponding to the adult potential car-owning population) only increased by 32.5% over that same timespan (from about 2.86 million to 3.79 million).

    A lot of the increase occurred between 1990 and 2000, with the similarly-measured adult population rising just 3.9% and the number of registered cars rising by 66.4%.

    On another note, the population of the Republic of Ireland is fast approaching 5 million, with the worldometers website estimating it to be around 4.993 million today, up from around 4.819 million in 2018.

    According to this road deaths in 1990 were 478 compared to 138 in 2018.
    https://www.garda.ie/en/roads-policing/statistics/previous-years-roads-policing-statistics/archived-road-collision-statistics-1961-to-2007.html
    https://www.garda.ie/en/roads-policing/statistics/previous-years-roads-policing-statistics/overview-2018.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Morocco was the first country to recognise the United States in 1777.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Morocco was the first country to recognise the United States in 1777.

    And the city of Fez in Morocco is home to the University of al-Qarawiyyin since the year 859, predating Oxfords 1096 by a comfortable margin and making it the oldest university in the world. It was founded by a woman called Fatima al-Fihri, a Tunisian immigrant who saw it as a thank you to the country for the opportunities it afforded her family.

    The University is home to the oldest library in the world, recently restored and now open to the public.

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    Such a beautiful building, such intricate details. I'd love to visit.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Candie wrote: »
    The University is home to the oldest library in the world
    Fantastic building with an incredible history but it's not the oldest library(still around) in the world. That would be the library in the monestary of Saint Catherine in Sinai, which is 300 years older. The library of Bobbio Abbey founded by Columbanus predates it too, though it's not exactly a living library today. Though the same Bobbio library was the inspiration for the labyrinthine library in Umberto Eco's Name of the Rose book(and film).

    Its status as a university is debatable. It was and remained for most of its existence a religious school, rather than a site of wider learning. The university concept where the religious was less in play compared to wider learning was more a European concept. If we take Al-Qarawiyyin to be a university then there would be many that would predate it. Even our own Clonmacnoise would. Though clearly that one is not going any more. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    I've been to al-Qarawiyyin a couple of times. The guide actually explained what Wibbs mentions, that it is nearer to what we would call a seminary today, rather than what we know as a university. It effectively taught islamic theology, and related religious and legal subjects, nothing more. There would have been other colleges in the Maghreb dealing with subjects like astronomy, maths, chemistry, cartography etc.

    Incredible place all the same, really worth a visit as is all the area to the Med to the north of it. And to think they built that when we were living in straw roofed stone huts, with the odd round tower as the height of our building technology. :)


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Fantastic building with an incredible history but it's not the oldest library(still around) in the world. That would be the library in the monestary of Saint Catherine in Sinai, which is 300 years older. The library of Bobbio Abbey founded by Columbanus predates it too, though it's not exactly a living library today. Though the same Bobbio library was the inspiration for the labyrinthine library in Umberto Eco's Name of the Rose book(and film).

    Its status as a university is debatable. It was and remained for most of its existence a religious school, rather than a site of wider learning. The university concept where the religious was less in play compared to wider learning was more a European concept. If we take Al-Qarawiyyin to be a university then there would be many that would predate it. Even our own Clonmacnoise would. Though clearly that one is not going any more. :D

    Someone needs to tell the Moroccans this news.

    I vote anyone but me.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KevRossi wrote: »
    I've been to al-Qarawiyyin a couple of times. The guide actually explained what Wibbs mentions, that it is nearer to what we would call a seminary today, rather than what we know as a university. It effectively taught islamic theology, and related religious and legal subjects, nothing more. There would have been other colleges in the Maghreb dealing with subjects like astronomy, maths, chemistry, cartography etc.

    Incredible place all the same, really worth a visit as is all the area to the Med to the north of it. And to think they built that when we were living in straw roofed stone huts, with the odd round tower as the height of our building technology. :)

    There's a chance I could get there with work next year, but with the pandemic I'm not banking on anything. I just have to make sure I have an extra day or so if it happens.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Incredible place all the same, really worth a visit as is all the area to the Med to the north of it. And to think they built that when we were living in straw roofed stone huts, with the odd round tower as the height of our building technology. :)

    Easy, they had a nice long stretch of good weather on their side. :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    KevRossi wrote: »
    Incredible place all the same, really worth a visit as is all the area to the Med to the north of it. And to think they built that when we were living in straw roofed stone huts, with the odd round tower as the height of our building technology. :)
    That was an interesting thing about Irish architecture, that even though the culture in the early medieval was a repository for all sorts of Classical knowledege including architecture, they continued to build in an almost stone age way. About the only difference was the knowledge of mortar meant they could build bigger and higher. The conical roof of a round tower is the same corbel structure as Newgrange. The beehive huts of the Skelligs could be stone age too. They were absolute masters of the drywall building technique. They did build arches, but even here sometimes they would put in a lintel, old tech and carve the new tech arch into it.

    The last round tower built was at Ardmore. Constructed in the 12th century and unusual for the three decorative courses.

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    There is no mystery as to their purpose. They were bell towers and that's what they called them in the annals(though some translations may mean stone house). They were not defensive and would have been useless in that capacity anyway. Build a fire around their base and you could cook the monks inside to death(and likely bring it down). They had unbelieveably shallow foundations for their height. IIRC the deepest only goes down a couple of feet in old money and not much more than a foot in the shallowest example. They survived in large enough numbers because their shape was pretty wind resistant like a lighthouse(imagine the storms that Ardmore one lived through) and the base part below the raised door was filled with rubble which anchored them(though one exists with a door in the base and still stands). The annals do report they were often hit by lightning, which usually blew off the pointed roof. The only one left with its original roof cap is in Clondalkin, Dublin(I was actually inside that one many moons ago). All the rest were reconstructed, or some were repurposed as lookouts with flat crenellated tops.

    Painting of Glendalough from the 18th century, minus the pointy top.

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    The last one at Ardmore does lean a bit, well so would you after eight centuries. :D. Meanwhile in Italy at the same time Ardmore tower was just finished and another bell tower that leans...

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    Yep that's what the Italians were at... Dead fanceh. OK it was started in the 12th century but took two centuries to build. Not because they were lazy, but wars and and recessions got in the way. As they will. It had started to lean quite early on. Actually the long time between construction phases may have saved it by allowing the ground to settle under the initial weight. It's not the only leaning building in that neck of the woods either. The church beside it is also sinking on one side. The same church was later the place where on Galileo was baptised. And the same church that as a young man he watched a chandelier swing back and forth and noticed that no matter the distance of the swing the time it took was always the same and one story goes he went up the leaning tower to drop two unequal weight cannonballs and noticed they always hit the ground at the same time. But I digress. He's another post entirely. And all this leaning and swinging? The name of the town Pisa may have been a reference to swampy land... As another interesting coincidence, the same crappy underpinnings likely saved the tower and all the older buildings from the earthquakes the area has suffered. The soft soil acts as a damper so the resonating frequencies aren't strong enough to bring the buildings down. Oh and after efforts to save the tower a few years back it actually leans half as much as it did a century ago.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,626 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    ^ Did any of the bells survive?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    IIRC they were handbells rather than the big bells most associeated with later bells in churches and a couple of those do survive. The handbell of St Patrick the most well known.

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    With its reliquary/shrine.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭iarann


    We all didn't know that Boards.ie would be out of action for sooooo long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    The Dublin Whiskey Fire took place on the 18th of June, 1875 in the Liberties area of Dublin City. It lasted a single night but killed 13 people, and resulted in €6 million worth of damage in whiskey alone, People drank the 6-inch deep river of whiskey that is said to have flowed as far as the Coombe

    In all, 13 people are understood to have died as a result of the fire. None of the deceased perished in the flames, nor did they die of smoke inhalation - each succumbed to alcohol poisoning from drinking “freely of the derelict whiskey”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Here's some Mission Impossible trivia for you. Tom Cruise is now older filming Mission Impossible 7 and 8 than Jon Voight was filming Mission Impossible 1. Jon was 58. Tom is now 59.





  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    There are churches in Europe displaying dragon bones right behind the tomb of the saint who slew it.

    St. Donatus of Arezzo:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6977EVX0AA-bfe?format=jpg&name=360x360

    Wawel Cathedral:


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E698gvPXoAEYi8G?format=jpg&name=small



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    apologies this isnt the right thread BUT....


    Im watching who wants to be a millionaire...


    question for 4,000 comes up...


    Which hand on a clock moves 1,440 times per day?

    A - Second hand B - Minute Hand C- Hour hand D - Something else I cant remember


    Anyways, I do a bit of quick mental maths, 24 hours, 60 mins, so yeah a minute hand , B final answer I says.


    Yerone playing says A, The second hand, final answer.


    AND SHE WAS CORRECT. WTF


    So i went to google and found this


    "In 24 hours, the hour hand makes (24*1/12 = 2) revolutions and the second hand goes round (24*60=1440) times."


    soooooooooooo, i bet u didnt know i cant figure out what the hell is going on. Please enlighten me somebody smarter than I



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The minute hand moves once a minute.

    In reality they are usually geared down from the second hand so lots of smaller moves.



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  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dont mean to be arse,but was the question move or go around the clock??


    The second hand geos around 1440 times


    ,while the minute hand geos around 24 times


    The hour hand geos around twice



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    oh wait, so yo mean its revolutions of the clock or something? rather than actual movements?


    Be an arse all you like, just help me understand!



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    It depends on how the question was actually worded. If it's "moves", then you're right (keeping in mind what Capt'n said); if it's "revolutions", then the contestant was right. Unless it's one of those 24 hours clocks...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭b318isp


    It must be revolutions, as the minute hand completes one every hour, so 24 times a day.

    The second hand makes one revolution a minute, so 1440 revolutions in the day.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    I am fascinated by the Mandela effect but rarely get caught out with it. Knew ET said ‘ET home phone’ and Chief Brody saying ‘you’re going to need a bigger boat’ but my head literally exploded when I watched Field of dreams yesterday, a film I’ve seen literally dozens of times and heard ‘Build it and he will come’. Wtf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,805 ✭✭✭Evade


    That seems a bit far fetched. What's the point of the RAF letting the Germans know they can see through their fake airfields? They'd be better off letting the Germans waste time, men, and resources building fake airfields they knew weren't real.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Yeah i've seen that story debunked by military historians. Not only is it a waste of time but every bombing raid resulted in the loss of some aircraft and lives.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I was reminded of the truce on Christmas day. Plus, one-upmanship is nothing new and people in dangerous situation can be foolhardy. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if it were true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    there are so many unbelievable elements that i would be very surprised if it was true. for instance the picture of the "wooden bomb" isn't a wooden bomb. It is a targeting flare or something on those lines. second, if it was a wooden bomb that had been dropped the display would consist of splinters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,805 ✭✭✭Evade


    If you go to the article this article is sourced from it really sounds like the author wanted it to be true.

    But then again like ohnonotgmail wrote WWII was very weird at times. Chopping up a Royal Navy ship until it vaguely resembles a German ship packing it with explosives and sailing it into a dry dock before blowing it up sounds like it shouldn't have worked but it did.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ‘Krupp Patent Zünder’ is what was stamped on the fuses of British shells used to kill Germans in WWI

    Vickers sold the UK government 14,139,000 of fuze no. 80 and charged them 1 shilling 2d for the Krupp royalties on each fuze.

    But they didn't give the money to Krupp.



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