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Would you be happy for your children to receive covid-19 vaccine

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,914 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Peer reviewed, like the review process that delayed the approval for the AstraZeneca vaccine due to differences in the strength between batches which required further trial data to be submitted before it was approved. That sort of independent peer review?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    You left oun an important time, 120 months to get victims compensation and not all compensated yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭spaceHopper



    Well some parents are going to have to make the call on this soon. Mine are under 12 so I won't for now. But I find it hard to justify the risk of a vaccine that might do short term harm (cardiac inflammation) or as yet unknown issues v the very low death rate of covid in that age group, the possibility of long or lingering covid can't be ruled out.


    Another worry is that we could have something like this happen here as they are considering it in the UK and that it could be extended to schools





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    To the posters who are calling the vaccine hesitant anti-vaxxers do you really believe this to be productive?

    Humans don’t operate a hive mind. There are the true anti-vaxxers and the vaccine hesitant and those who will be first to vaccinate. No discussion etc will persuade a true anti-vaxxer However, by having open, honest discussions the vaccine hesitant can come to make the decision to vaccinate their children once they feel they have all available facts.

    I believe most parents will eventually vaccinate their children, however a significant cohort may decide to hold off for a few months to see if any issues come to light. Sometimes issues/side effects aren’t spotted straight away. The vaccines in the childhood vaccination program are around a long time now so parents feel comfortable and confident that it’s the best thing for their children. I know parents who are vaccinated themselves who want to hold off on vaccinating their children for now. Others will vaccinate their children as soon as they get the opportunity.

    To those saying people have had decades to read up about vaccines. The technology behind vaccines is changing. We have gone from using a virus called vaccinia against smallpox to using mRNA based vaccines against Covid. People should be allowed to ask questions and discuss this without being told they are anti-Baxter’s. I know many just want this pandemic to be over and if that means vaccinating children then they will support that no matter what.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Great post, pathetic really the way anti vaxxer is slung about, despite the fact that a lot of people (myself included) have the vaccine but are hesitant to have it for my kids (9,5) - simply because I believe *they don't need it*



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    This is me. I don't believe my kids need it. My husband and I are vaccinated but we will be in the wait and see cohort. However my kids are only 8 and 5 so it's a non issue for the moment. The vaccines they get in early childhood have been around for years and have been tried and tested. We also opted to get them vaccinated against Men B as if they were unfortunate to pick that up it could cause brain damage or death. Covid causes very little harm in young children so we will hold out for now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    "Covid causes very little harm in young children so we will hold out for now."

    To me, that is the crux of it, all the other childhood vaccines are for serious illnesses but for children covid appears to be little more than a cold. The risk v benefit to the child does not stack up at the moment and no parent vaccines their child to benefit society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    There’s a big contradiction at play though all of this. As a parent you’re being asked to consider the possible chance that Covid could do serious harm to your healthy child by the very people who are asking you disregard the possibility that a new vaccine could bring harm to your son or daughter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    "There’s a big contradiction at play though all of this. As a parent you’re being asked to consider the possible chance that Covid could do serious harm to your healthy child by the very people who are asking you disregard the possibility that a new vaccine could bring harm to your son or daughter." Who have also spent the last year telling you that young children aren't at risk of serious illness from covid, it's a mild illness to them"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    Is that supposed to be a case for vaccinating children, or against it?

    Not clear as it works both ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    What works both ways? Measles has been around for centuries, there's more known about that disease than covid.

    We'll know more about covid in the next few years than what we know now. Why take a risk with a viral disease that little is known about and just trust science.



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would love to see this evidence of adverse effects of the vaccine on kids that seems to have convinced some that the vaccine is more dangerous.

    If the risk exceeds the benefit it won’t be approved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭florryfox


    We are a bit hesitant at the moment regarding our 11year old being vaccinated. My wife and I are fully vaccinated and our 18 year old received his 1st today.

    So I guess it's wait and see as to what they plan for the under 12 cohort when their turn comes around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    I was all for getting children vaccinated but read on Facebook that it may cause infertility issues later in life.. That's Veery worrying I have to say.. Hopefully that isn't the case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    You read on that well known scientific journal, Facebook?

    How, exactly, would anyone know that a covid vaccine administered to children "may cause infertility issues later in life."?! It's mere speculation by anti-vaxxers.

    Meanwhile, thousands of people with the vaccine have already become pregnant. The misinformation has already been debunked.

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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I completely disagree, it’s not speculation by anti-vaxxers. It’s pure horsesh*t designed to sow dischord among the uniformed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,468 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Toodles_27


    This is us. Both fully vaccinated and most definately not anti-vax.

    Our eldest is 12. My anxiety levels are through the roof all day and I feel physically sick at the impending decision and pressure that we are going to come under in the next couple of weeks.



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The data to support the decision to approve for 12 years plus includes the assessment that the benefits outweigh the risks significantly. Any misinformation you may read on Facebook or else is just that, misinformation. At this stage we all know multiple people from young adults to elderly who have received the vaccines with no issues. Younger people in the likes of Israel have had them months. Any potential adverse events would have emerged by now. Teenagers are humans too and their physiology is the same as everyone else’s



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Toodles_27


    Not being smart - but why do you think I’m getting my information on Facebook?

    My concerns are the facts that mRNA is a relatively new vaccine technology. The Covid vaccinations are less than 12 months old and have been trialed on children for even less time.

    I just want to wait a bit? For more data? Is that so wrong? Maybe nothing will emerge and I genuinely hope that is the case. But I just want to be 100% sure that the decisions I make for my child now are not going to cause any adverse effects.

    For the record, I don’t get my information from Facebook. I will speak with my gp about my concerns and have already done so briefly earlier this year. The advice then was that in their opinion, there was no medical need for our child to be vaccinated.



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    With all due respect, your gp obviously knows more than niac and global regulatory bodies. There is no postulated mechanism by which mRNA vaccines can cause damage long after they are administered and there is lots of data support safety in young people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Toodles_27


    Oh wow, why didn’t I come to boards sooner!! You’ve extinguished all my concerns and I will be now be first up to register my child for vaccine!

    Just as soon as you can show me your medical qualifications that beats our gp - who incidentally has run vaccination clinics from 8am to 11pm for months to get everyone in their practice vaccinated.

    Do you really think this is the way to convince the vaccine hesitant?

    Edit: to add, NIAC have changed their recommendations on vaccines so many times it’s hard to keep up. And my gp said their is no medical need for our healthy child to be vaccinated. Nothing about vaccine being a risk.



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is no medical need for a child to get the hpv vaccine, and many others.


    the end of this thing is the virus becoming endemic as most of our immune systems have memory through previous infection. Either choose a safe and effective vaccine or the chaotic approach of infection with the virus. And remember in 20 30 or 40 years time the virus will still be in circulation but the majority will only suffer minor effects. There will be a portion of unvaccinated individuals who have also never been exposed to the virus to whom infection at that point will be like March 2020 all over again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Vaccinated30


    And both ways they contribute to herd immunity anyway!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Don't be anxious - it is entirely your choice not to vaccinate your kids.

    For me, today is the first day in a long, long time that I have felt real hope of our family getting back to normality. I really believe that Vaccines are our way out of this.

    We will choose to vaccinate both of our kids (our youngest is 12). We are happy with that choice having read a fair bit on it. We also have family and friends in the US, France and elsewhere in the EU with Teens vaccinated and no issues.

    I am glad that NIAC have given Parents the choice following the approval by the EMA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,502 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    To be fair, your GP is not a virologist, your GP will be able to give you great advice about risks from vaccines due to other underlying conditions based on data provided with the vaccine, but they won't be able to contradict NIAC with their professional advice as NIAC have both the data and expertise in this area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Toodles_27


    See - you don’t get my concerns at all. You’re not willing to see it from where I am standing.

    I am afraid. Plain and simple. I am afraid of making the wrong decision. Administer a vaccine that is less than 12 months old to my child to prevent an illness that has proven to have little to no effect on the vast majority of them and their peer age group. I’m not saying never - I just want to wait for more data? What is so wrong about that?

    The HPV vaccine is around years and trials have been fully completed so would have no hesitation in administering that. You’re not comparing like for like.

    You're never going to see it from my side. I’m a parent trying to protect her child and absolutely terrified I’m going to make the wrong decision. Whether that be administering the vaccine or not administering the vaccine.

    Let’s leave it there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Have a read of Mama Doc in Meath. She has done a post this evening on FB on NIAC's decision. She writes in plain no-nonsense English.

    We had made up our minds already but it's no harm reading more.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,502 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Beyond being a parent, you just will never be qualified to decide on the safety, health professionals and NIAC are qualified, the amount of data on the SARS-COV2 Vaccines is absolutely immense, billions of people have taken them with constant monitoring for side effects, the rare side effects being picked up would never be picked up for other medicines because the number of people getting it would only be in the low millions.

    Adding time is not going to add anything which makes your desire to wait irrational. Now, it's fine to be irrational, people are often irrational about children, you will probably wait for other kids to get it then hear about cases where kids didn't get it and are sick at home or off school and then rush to get the vaccine (if it's not your kids sick at home) and hoping you're not one of the people responsible for spreading the virus to a vulnerable loved one.

    But you also have to accept that people will call you out on your irrationality, you're making decisions on emotions, not facts and figures, don't expect others to enable you in this nor take offense when someone points this out to you, you're an adult, be grown up about it :)



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