Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

Dont be at yourself · 21-07-2021 3:22pm

This simple solution is to mandate that cars that undergo repairs must re-start from the pitlane.

Killinator · 21-07-2021 3:23pm

Also worth noting that when Hamilton repaired during the red flag he had not been adjudged as the guilty party for the incident.

At that point for stewards Max may have been decided on as the cause of the accident so then Hamilton gets penalised with no repair for an accident he arguably didn't cause.

I suppose it makes a case for stewards making decisions quicker but when I saw the collision originally I said to myself I would not want to be a steward because I couldn't call if it was a racing incident or if a driver was to blame

Frank Bullitt · 21-07-2021 4:28pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117639806#Comment_117639806

I was referencing the general rule that if a driver inadvertently benefits from causing a red flag, like Leclerc did at Monaco this year, that rule has glaring gap in it for how a car/driver can benefit.

As some have said, it should be that you restart from the pitlane etc.

Jordan 199 · 21-07-2021 4:31pm

Mick Schumacher behind the wheel of the Jordan 191:

21-07-2021 4:49pm

Simple enough answer for the red flag thing; anyone who makes a change (including tyres) goes to the back of the grid. That way if everyone needs wet tyres they can get them and the field will end up the same. If there's a safety issue it's on the team to make the decision to effect repairs.

Frank Bullitt · 21-07-2021 5:16pm

Fu-ckin glorious sight.

barryribs · 22-07-2021 2:56pm

It's looking increasingly likely there will be no race in Japan this year, I'd imagine they are waiting until the olympics finish until they make a decision. Joe Saward reported some rumours of them planning 2 races in Texas and 2 in Mexico over the space of 5 weeks to fill the slot left by Japan and Singapore. I fully expect at least one more round at Bahrain where Australia was and the inevitable cancellation of the race in Brazil. It's bizarre to think that there is only one race on the calendar for November and we are still going until mid December.

Frank Bullitt · 22-07-2021 4:37pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117647101#Comment_117647101

I am tempted to fly down to Austin for one.

Hijpo · 22-07-2021 6:34pm

Marko claims RB have hired a lawyer to look into the accident at silverstone.

I don't know any of the reputable racing news sites but it's mentioned here

https://racingnews365.com/marko-claims-red-bull-have-hired-lawyers-after-verstappen-hamilton-collision

I put it here instead of the race thread because if is true it could have an impact outside of that incident.

Frank Bullitt · 22-07-2021 6:44pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117648205#Comment_117648205

Mind games if anything I would say. This would put more eyes on any driver if there was a potential flare up in the future.

Faugheen · 22-07-2021 7:49pm

Red Bull opening a massive can of worms there. What’s the point of this other than putting all the attention on them?

If (when) Checo inevitably punts someone off this is the type of thing that bites them in the arse.

Its done. Beat him on the track.

Captain_Crash · 22-07-2021 8:13pm

I’d say it’s quite a normal behind the scenes process that a lot of teams do as the bill for damage can be quite high and it’s just a case of crossing t’s and dotting i’s. It’s just a news site looking for clicks and making a story of it because of the spotlight the crash received!

Every F1 team has a team of lawyers on retainer no doubt!

Frank Bullitt · 22-07-2021 8:32pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117648495#Comment_117648495

I think this is more of am aim at Merc for RB. If RB and Max can keep their advantage and build up a points lead again, and Hamilton does another first lap dive that results in a DNF or accident, the press would then be to apply a sterner punishment.

That is what i am reading from this anyway.

afatbollix · 22-07-2021 10:00pm

He watches Dave during the day.

Have you been in an accident that wasn't your fault. You are due compensation, We offer a no win no fee so call now.

Poor Marko being sucked in at his old age.

Santan · 22-07-2021 10:47pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117649058#Comment_117649058

Excellent 🤣

El_Duderino 09 · 23-07-2021 12:50am

If its true its just the usual story of stirring up additional trouble in the hope that it will influence the FIA to comedown harder on Hamilton if the opportunity arrives again.

I really doubt any lawyer could have any affect on the result of the race or even paying for damages to Max's car.

quokula · 23-07-2021 12:31pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117639912#Comment_117639912

Yep his average qualy gap to his teammate is 0.482s, which is the largest gap on the grid, just ahead of Gasly and Verstappen, while "Mr Saturday" George Russell for example has an average gap of 0.377s - the difference is that the Williams is fast enough for that to be worth a bunch of positions but the Haas is only ever good enough for 19th. Mazepin is hardly a benchmark of a teammate of course, but he's hardly worse than Latifi.

It will be interesting to see how Mick does in a somewhat competitive car in future.

quokula · 23-07-2021 12:33pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117648495#Comment_117648495

Beat him on track? They've been beating him on track week in and week out, right up to the point where he punted them into the wall and put Max in the hospital. It's amazing the kind of twisted logic some people use to try and make the victim out to be the one who did wrong.

El_Duderino 09 · 23-07-2021 12:42pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117651216#Comment_117651216

Did someone make Hamilton out to be the victim? Where did that happen?

AMKC · 23-07-2021 1:35pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117651216#Comment_117651216

Exactly well said. The only way Hamilton could beat Max was to put Max into the wall. Disgraceful driving.

BrentMused · 23-07-2021 2:52pm

Alfa Romeo and Bottas have opened talks about a drive next season, according to numerous reputable F1 sources.

artanevilla · 23-07-2021 3:10pm

For Kimi or Gio though? You'd imagine it's Finn for Finn but from next season Alfa are no longer required to take on a Ferrari driver.

El_Duderino 09 · 23-07-2021 3:35pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117652351#Comment_117652351

Will it also cease to be Alfa? Is the driver a part of the Alfa branding deal?

barryribs · 23-07-2021 4:18pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117652351#Comment_117652351

Both are likely to be gone next year, with Bottas replacing Kimi and Callum Ilot replacing Giovinazzi

Faugheen · 23-07-2021 4:40pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117651216#Comment_117651216

Who is making Hamilton out to be a victim? I just said it's a stupid move from Red Bull, especially if something happens involving their drivers. I said nothing about Hamilton.

Utterly bizarre ramblings again from your good self about something nobody has said.

Another insinuation that Hamilton did this on purpose as well. Piss off with that sh*te. Absolute scumbag behaviour from you implying that this was done intentionally.

Since you like to reply to posts and then run away, I'll ask you to prove that Hamilton did this on purpose.

I'll also ask you to prove that Hamilton was fed a line to ask if Max was ok since you like throwing out baseless accusations because you have such rage-induced hatred for a sportsman.

Zookey123 · 23-07-2021 5:06pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwb5-ogLRic&ab_channel=DPandKP

Frank Bullitt · 23-07-2021 5:39pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117652351#Comment_117652351

I think Gio is making a stake to hang around, so it is likely to be Kimi that gets the boot.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-07-2021 3:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117653035#Comment_117653035

Kimi is marginally quicker than an aging Kimi who looks like he's totally checked out.

I would keep Gio onlynbecause I think kimi will be even worse next season, not because I think Gio I'd anything more than a poor driver, well inside the bottom few drivers on the grid. I don't think anyone has ever used expressed the sentiment, "great drive from Gio today, really looked like he is getting the best out of a poor car". Alfa has 2 very poor drivers in a poor car.

klose · 24-07-2021 8:52am

How long has latifi left at Williams? I know his dad has pumped money into the team but if they've ambitions they'll punt him out. Be nice to get a couple seats opened for next season.

Think bottas would take a drive at alfa, with new regs they might be a bit more competitive next season.

Hijpo · 24-07-2021 9:33am

I'm not sure about these new regulations improving anything with regards the slower teams. Surely if the power, aero, chassis packages are well off the pace now then having a bigger, heavier car will compound those problems, if anything being able to get closer makes the top teams less susceptible to them as back markers.

Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

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