5% of Covid cases have been fully vaccinated - which is great news in a way!!

I feel figures like this are always released to fit an agenda.

But for some reason they refuse to publish loads of other figures we'd all like to know.

For a long time we just got headlines figures of deaths and case numbers.

But never a breakdown of how old those were dying, had they underlying conditions, were they vaccinated etc.

And I am far from a conspiracy theorist btw, I am fully vaccinated since May, believe every adult should take it, and that a lot of the measures up to a certain point were the right thing to do. I just think how they have handled it in the last month or so has not be right, but thats a different argument.

Last night RTE were creaming themselves over the 1000 new cases. They never want this to end.

It's academic, but the relationship between Sars-Cov-2 and Covid is like the relationship between HIV and AIDS. The virus causes the disease, but the presence of the virus doesn't necessarily mean a person is suffering from the disease.

When we talk about cases or people with covid, we're talking about people who have tested positive for the virus, without any distinction as to whether they have the disease - i.e. whether they have symptoms. It's academic though because asymptomatic people may still be somewhat infectious, and a positive test that is asymptomatic today is not guaranteed to remain asymptomatic.

95% of infections are in unvaccinated people

Given that it is "fully" vaccinated as per the thread title, that's actually more worrying tbh.

Seeing that the pool of fully vaccinated people is just over 50% of the population (iirc).

So looks like the risk is closer to 10% of contracting Covid if you're fully vaccinated.

Crap. Not sure why people are touting it as great news tbh.

Edit: having said that, that won't necessarily translate into hospitalisations or deaths. That will be the interesting figure in the coming months.

Edit 2: I'm wrong about the percentage. It does look like 5% chance of contracting Covid since the pools of vaccinated and unvaccinated are equal at this point. Doesn't look like there's a delete option so I'll just leave it.

I wouldn't mind a statistician weighing in here for full clarity. It's not as straightforward as I thought.

the actual article (as opposed to the OP) states

"She said in the last few days about 5% of cases of Covid-19 involve people who were either fully or partially vaccinated."

This is good news, as more people get vaccinated, the risk will reduce further.

In that article, the 5% figure is quoted from the same person in HSE as referring to fully vaccinated and fully or partially vaccinated people.

If it's the latter, i.e. it includes partially vaccinated, then this is incredibly positive news. If it is only fully vaccinated, then it is merely very good news.

There is no negative way to spin this.

The CSO publish an age breakdown of cases and deaths.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-covid19/covid-19informationhub/health/covid-19deathsandcasesstatistics/

The CDC director yesterday said this would be a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". Sure a few people who are vaccinated are going to get into trouble, but it's clear from the statistics that the vaccines are doing a good job at reducing personal risk from Covid. Thankfully we have great uptake in this country, if we can just keep cases down until has had a chance to take a vaccine if they want one we'll be in a great place. After that the anti-vaxxers can have a big Covid party amongst themselves.

What a load of utter sh1te.

Join the 5g causes covid shower of fools. You'll meet Gemma O'Doherty and John waters on your way.

Sad that some people are just this stupid.

The figures are released alright and all information is out there. However sensationalist and hysterical reporting means that the media have absolutely no interest in giving positive news.

The media twist announcements, they ask pointed questions and publish the answers out of context especially with their wild headlines.

Many people won't read past the sensationalist headlines and then start spreading mis information.

That then gets really really stupid thick eejits to make sinister calls - then the moronic media that put the mis information out create a new story about the "disgrace" of the sinister calls.

They created the basis for the calls in the first place.

I would love to see your calculations here.

The other bit of maths is that the majority of those vaccinated are also those with older, less effective immune systems vs. the trials which would have had a broad range of ages, as we go younger, the % vaccinated testing positive should drop accordingly.