I don't think the purpose of these audits is to prove any widescale election fraud. It's really all about sowing doubt at this stage, and keeping the base stoked.
Of course, even if you leave aside the complete lack of evidence for widespread electoral fraud thus far, the search for fraud is clearly a partisan one, i.e. the audits are not being carried out to see if Trump got a billion votes postmarked from Moscow. It's all about those bamboo ballots.
Now that is very interesting and nice that they have screenshots of the documents and little details that would confirm it’s authenticity. Trump will hate this because as we know he’s an utter self made person who’s never ever lost at anything or made any mistakes.
I see that Oklahoma republicans want an audit of the election results in their state in 2020 despite the fact Trump won ever county and winning the state as a whole running away with it. What logic is there to casting doubt on results in a state you won easily ?
I think it was unfortunate that Comey said in his book that he took Trump's question of "do you think I look like someone who needs to use prostitutes?" as rhetorical!
Would be a lot funnier if he took it literally and gave his honest answer! 😄
The thing with Trump that I wonder about is whether he is as unhinged and dangerous as he looks. There is such a divide in USA and opinions on Trump, he could be wearing no Clothes doing an interview and people would still find a way to dismiss and justify it.
Is it a coincidence that he seems to get on with Autocrats? You think of that Coup in January that he encouraged, how anybody can excuse or dismiss it is a clear indication of how deluded people who follow him actually are. Its not about intelligence , its about allegiance. The instability that man is causing is quite impressive as he is not particularly intelligent. I do not know if its better hes not that bright or if things would be worse with a character Like Trump who actually knows what they are doing.
If true that essentially validates the infamous Steele Dossier.
Can't help but feel this was an intentional leak and is part of the plan. Republicans won't believe it or just won't care about it and refuse to do anything about it.
They will continue to dig in and it will deepen the divide between republicans and democrats (and society). Just like they wanted
My favourite bit of the article.
There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex”.
Imagine if Trump still had access to Twitter?
Extraordinary headline in the Guardian this morning with apparent written evidence Putin personally signed off on an operation to help put a "mentally unstable" Donald Trump in the White House
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house
aloyisious wrote: » According to what MSNBC's Joe Scarburough has reported on Trump's speech at his weekend rally, Trump said he didn't know Alan Weisselberg had to pay taxes on fringe benefits [like autos and apartments] that Trump Org gave to its employees. This "I didn't know" from the man who said he wrote the tax laws reads like "I leave all that to my accountant to deal with", Alan who?
aloyisious wrote: » Allen has an interesting resume, according to Wikipedia. He began working for Fred in 1973, and went on to be CFO and V/P of Trump Casinos, and treasurer of the Donald J Trump Foundation. In 2017 in a deposition to NY State investigators, he said he was NOT aware that he was a board member for at least the past [then] 10 0r 15 years. It'd be good for any prosecution to find out if he was paid or given benefit in kind for his duties as a board member during the 10 0r 15 years. I can't imagine him being Pro-bono to Don like Rudi Giuliani reportedly is but....
Tell me how wrote: » You think he'd still have had his job if Donald didn't like what he saw?
duploelabs wrote: » FYI Frank trump hired wessenberg
Tell me how wrote: » Of course it is, Trump probably hired Wesselberg specifically because he showed an affinity for showing scant regard for the law and focusing on benefitting Trump. But we've seen this before with Michael Cohen and he ended up in a jail cell and Trump continued as President. We saw Trump admit to sexually assaulting women and he was still elected to be President. What we 'know' to be fact and what happens in reality as a consequence of these facts do not have to correlate, and we have seen that time and again.
Itssoeasy wrote: » Well he can’t really use the “I barely knew X” anymore. I mean he will try but IMO it won’t work. And when journalist Tim O’ Brien got trump under oath a few years ago after trump sued him over a book he wrote, trump admitted under oath that he and Alan wesselberg work very close together so the notion that Alan wesselberg did this on his own back and Donald trump knew nothing about it is ridiculous.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » There was a poster/Trump supporter on this or one of the other threads who tried to argue that it is an American workers duty/right to cheat on thier taxes. When you're up against that kind of thinking then you're never going to convince them that what Trump did was illegal.
pixelburp wrote: » 100%. Let's not forget what should have been the slam dunk argument for Clinton against Trump; that he didn't pay taxes. Which the man simply responded when challenged during a debate, "that's makes me smart". Undoubtedly his support bumped up a couple of points after that. I think it's easy sometimes to forget just how ...worshipped (for want of a better word) the monied class of American life is over there. Tycoons, entrepreneurs, whatever you want to call them. Working the system is part of the myth.
VinLieger wrote: » Without thinking I know the argument they would use "he's such a good businessman he signs so many cheques and does so many deals he can't pay attention to everything he signs".....
astrofool wrote: » Well, he did have to take a senility test. But, if it's a tucker "my show is just entertainment" or rudy "there is fraud unless I'm under oath, then there's no fraud" style defense, would anyone be surprised? Would his supporters then realize they're following a moron grifter? I mean, it doesn't even look like this was subtle, it was just hampered by endless lawsuits to try and stop the law and then hiding behind the presidency.
serfboard wrote: » I suspect a Bertie Ahern defence will be used: “I didn’t really pay close attention to what I was signing” and “The boss used to get me to sign blank cheques” (Paraphrasing here, but language to that effect).
aloyisious wrote: » He's known to have a knowledgeable fondness of putting his personal signature of cheques, even the ones issued by the federal Gov't under the Covid-19 scheme to workers left temporarily unemployed.
aloyisious wrote: » If what is being reported/alleged about Don's signature being on some of the cheques used/issued by the Trump Org that the DA & Co found questionable is true, then it might follow that if his CFO testifies that he saw Don actually handwrite the signatures on the cheques and they are NOT rubberstamp type facsimiles it would directly link Don to the Trump Org scheme. Don wouldn't be able to deny personal knowledge and involvement in the scheme. The DA would just have to be coy about phrasing the question to Don, lead him step by step into agreeing with the DA's argument that he knew all about the scheme and the reason the scheme was set up by his Trump Org & his friend, it's CFO. He's known to have a knowledgeable fondness of putting his personal signature of cheques, even the ones issued by the federal Gov't under the Covid-19 scheme to workers left temporarily unemployed.
ECO_Mental wrote: » Big day today apparently with indictments. Hopefully I wont be disappointed and let down it seems that this orange buffoon can almost get away with murder.https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/30/trump-organization-tax-charges-expected-thursday/5366841001/ Trump might not himself be charged today but from what I hear once there are criminal charges placed on a company things can start going very bad for that company very fast, as banks and lenders start calling in loans fearing they wont get paid. And I am presuming that he wont have the means to repay theses loans so the Trump Org will go bankrupt again!...... Regarding Weisselberg I think he knows too much... who has being buying all those condos for cash?? all that Russian money that Trump Jr was bragging about... Most people would say that normal people should have turned by now but would you turn on the Russian mafia..or spend a couple of years in court (he can an afford it) and then maybe only a couple of years in prison. All depends on the severity of the charges. If they are serious and he is not turning then he must know some SERIOUS S**T
Christy42 wrote: » I thought they were already when they called Arizona for Biden?
DubInMeath wrote: » I'm sure that they will be called out as the MSM and RINOs that they are soon enough.
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