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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,937 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    marno21 wrote: »

    So what does he want us to do about it, can't comply anymore than we're complying.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,354 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    The word “ concerning “ is like white noise at this stage
    But new admissions are flat
    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1412458457702219778?s=19


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno



    Wait for the 8pm number this evening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Concerning increase indeed. He didn't even bother to look at the admissions, just saw the net number going up and decided to make a correlation.

    Edit: Beaten to it I see!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,730 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Leo’s concerned about the uk reopening in a fortnight

    We can forget about any further relaxation in Ireland this summer
    Leo Varadkar has slammed Boris Johnson’s decision for “gambling” in announcing an end to lockdown on July 19.

    And he defended the move to postpone the reopening of indoor eating and drinking here this week as “the right decision.”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,413 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Once again, another day of absolutely miserable rain. I see floods forming and have heard thunder. This is our peak summer month...

    Outdoor summer is simply not viable in this country.

    I'm just back from having a pint in two different pubs that have been open for outdoor.

    Elderly clientele indoors in both places out of the rain, and gardai a few doors down not batting an eyelid.

    I can assume most places are doing the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I'm just back from having a pint in two different pubs that have been open for outdoor.

    Elderly clientele indoors in both places out of the rain, and gardai a few doors down not batting an eyelid.

    I can assume most places are doing the same.
    It's called self-policing! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,816 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I'm just back from having a pint in two different pubs that have been open for outdoor.

    Elderly clientele indoors in both places out of the rain, and gardai a few doors down not batting an eyelid.

    I can assume most places are doing the same.

    The fact that they are all likely to be doubly vaccinated no doubt a big factor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    The word “ concerning “ is like white noise at this stage

    The boy who cried wolf

    Tony's always concerned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Tony's concern to feature heavily on the 9 o'clock news no doubt


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,730 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I'm just back from having a pint in two different pubs that have been open for outdoor.

    Elderly clientele indoors in both places out of the rain, and gardai a few doors down not batting an eyelid.

    I can assume most places are doing the same.

    I see this point frequently being made but I don’t follow it

    For a start most places aren’t doing it and just because some are does that justify the others being closed??

    Also, we don’t want to go down a road where law breaking to have a pint is our only hope at normality


  • Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm just back from having a pint in two different pubs that have been open for outdoor.

    Elderly clientele indoors in both places out of the rain, and gardai a few doors down not batting an eyelid.

    I can assume most places are doing the same.

    Local cops have been ringing the hotel here after gathering intelligence that there are 2 weddings on there this weekend. They want to make sure there is no music whatsoever and everyone out at half 11. They called in person twice to make sure the message was clear.

    Depends on where you are, really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Hospital admissions are up 14% week on week. The numbers are small enough that it could be a blip, but it's not nothing. Holohan would be ignoring his duties if he were to fail to point it out.

    David Higgins is another one of these spoofers like McWilliams or Hobbs who think that financial or economic expertise carries freely into epidemiology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    seamus wrote: »
    Hospital admissions are up 14% week on week. The numbers are small enough that it could be a blip, but it's not nothing. Holohan would be ignoring his duties if he were to fail to point it out.

    David Higgins is another one of these spoofers like McWilliams or Hobbs who think that financial or economic expertise carries freely into epidemiology.

    Do we know how many of these caught the virus in the hospital or was it the virus that put them in hospital?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Does anyone even listen anymore? All seems. Pointless, it seems the natural transmission is happening regardless of what the cmo says


  • Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Does anyone even listen anymore? All seems. Pointless, it seems the natural transmission is happening regardless of what the cmo says

    And that transmission is happening in settings where the CMO recommended the relaxation of restrictions..

    We got him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    seamus wrote: »
    Hospital admissions are up 14% week on week. The numbers are small enough that it could be a blip, but it's not nothing. Holohan would be ignoring his duties if he were to fail to point it out.

    David Higgins is another one of these spoofers like McWilliams or Hobbs who think that financial or economic expertise carries freely into epidemiology.

    Its how he chooses to phrase it

    ""We are seeing a small in hospitalisations in recent days, coming 10-14 days after the five day moving average of daily case numbers began to increase. we will be monitoring it closely in the days and weeks ahead."

    Job done

    Instead he has to get concern in twice in the same tweet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Does anyone even listen anymore? All seems. Pointless, it seems the natural transmission is happening regardless of what the cmo says

    We do and we don’t, the reason he mentioned he was concerned was to get a reaction! It’s been his mantra since the start! He’ll be Forever concerned! No way in any way will he ever say he isn’t concerned. Hence why I think and it’s a small chance, but future restrictions will happen permanently in winter months as it has become the norm and the CMO will be concerned, even though 2 years ago winter 2019 he sure as hell wasn’t concerned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    seamus wrote: »
    Hospital admissions are up 14% week on week. The numbers are small enough that it could be a blip, but it's not nothing. Holohan would be ignoring his duties if he were to fail to point it out.

    David Higgins is another one of these spoofers like McWilliams or Hobbs who think that financial or economic expertise carries freely into epidemiology.

    If it stays at that growth rate going forward, it’ll take approx 5 weeks before we see over 100 people in hospitals. How many will be fully vaccinated in that time?

    It’s not concerning in any way!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    seamus wrote: »
    Hospital admissions are up 14% week on week. The numbers are small enough that it could be a blip, but it's not nothing. Holohan would be ignoring his duties if he were to fail to point it out.

    Is there an age-based breakdown on hospital admissions available?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,444 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Cork2021 wrote: »

    It’s not concerning in any way!

    It will be very concerning in a fortnight or so.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    It will be very concerning in a fortnight or so.

    How? We might have a lot more cases but hospitals should be fine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    seamus wrote: »
    Hospital admissions are up 14% week on week. The numbers are small enough that it could be a blip, but it's not nothing. Holohan would be ignoring his duties if he were to fail to point it out.

    David Higgins is another one of these spoofers like McWilliams or Hobbs who think that financial or economic expertise carries freely into epidemiology.

    He is right though . If admissions are flat it means people in hospital for other issues caught covid in there ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Wonder is he ever not concerned. It be great if he could vary his vocabulary a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    seamus wrote: »
    Hospital admissions are up 14% week on week. The numbers are small enough that it could be a blip, but it's not nothing. Holohan would be ignoring his duties if he were to fail to point it out.

    David Higgins is another one of these spoofers like McWilliams or Hobbs who think that financial or economic expertise carries freely into epidemiology.

    I agree with the point you're making and we are, of course, all free to comment as none of us our experts on this - not even Holohan.

    We will head down the same route as the UK and open up as much as possible but we'll probably keep the masks and other precautions like social distancing. The country is actively being prepared for this with the likes of Varadkar stating that thousands of cases per day in a few weeks is not the same as January.

    The economics of all this will take over.
    We cannot keep paying €350 per week to people who should be at work.
    The country is a quarter of a trillion in debt now and, quite frankly, we are screwed paying this for covid and the bank bailout for the next 20 years or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    If it stays at that growth rate going forward, it’ll take approx 5 weeks before we see over 100 people in hospitals. How many will be fully vaccinated in that time?

    It’s not concerning in any way!

    The vaccines are creating the variants.
    If it's the case that a variant is generated (like delta) that render the vaccines useless well. . . . we are back to square one - March 2020.

    In many ways it makes sense to give everyone vaccines and then close down for 6-8 weeks to prevent variants and then resume opening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,567 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Do we know how many of these caught the virus in the hospital or was it the virus that put them in hospital?

    Considering over the course of 2 weeks (up to 4th July) there has been 6 hospital acuired cases of covid.
    So I don't think that has caused the little increase over the past few days.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    The vaccines are creating the variants.
    If it's the case that a variant is generated (like delta) that render the vaccines useless well. . . . we are back to square one - March 2020.

    In many ways it makes sense to give everyone vaccines and then close down for 6-8 weeks to prevent variants and then resume opening.

    The vaccines are creating the variants?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    In many ways it makes sense to give everyone vaccines and then close down for 6-8 weeks to prevent variants and then resume opening.

    I'd just like to quote this.

    Vaccinate everybody, and then lockdown fully for 8 weeks.

    Amazing.


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