Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

Padre_Pio · 06-07-2021 01:20AM

happywednesday wrote: »

I'm obviously in a government loving circle jerk, so I'll leave you neckbeards to **** over your pictures of Leo and enjoy the extended lockdown measures

27,000 new cases in the UK. Third highest in the world. Increasing at the same rate as the last wave.

All COVID measures are coming to an end in the next few weeks.

Thankfully deaths are few for now.

Snickers Man · 06-07-2021 02:02AM

Is there any logic to which clinic/vaccination centre people are being allocated?

I got my first dose (Astro Zeneca) a few weeks ago at the Aviva, which is within walking distance for me. For the second dose, they want to send me to Greystones which, according to Google Maps, is an hour and a half away by public transport.

Surely there is a centre somewhere in my county (which is feckin DUBLIN after all) where I could be accommodated. Is this typical?

Lumen · 06-07-2021 02:51AM

Strazdas wrote: »

I don't think we have a date. Their vaccination programme has run into some trouble and has slowed down considerably.

What kind of trouble?

They are a month ahead of the best in Europe in terms of doses administered. It's slowed down in June but that's to be expected when you get to the upper reaches of coverage, and we may see the same effect in August.

Corruptedmorals · 06-07-2021 06:48AM

Interesting. I always knew we received the second dose of Pfizer just over the bare minimum interval. HSE minimum is 17 days apart but EMA is 19 days and Pfizer and CDC say 21 days. It was 18 days apart as the hospital received a bigger delivery than expected so expanded the second dose beyond medical staff who had a longer interval. The side effects were fierce for lots of us which would imply it was too soon. I definitely want a booster shot soon. I wonder why the HSE have the lowest interval..

xboxdad · 06-07-2021 07:03AM

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

England is fully reopening on July 19th.

Nobody in government or NPHET has specifically said that Irish society actually will fully re open when we have 80% vaccinated fully. There have been terms like "relative normality" but not a single public figure has stated that our old lives will return, not one.

We are told this (80% vaccinated) should happen by late August to late September, but not one public figure has categorically stated that we will be in packed pubs and rammed nightclubs after this date. They are too fond of terms like the new normal and other scutter.

The US has nowhere near this amount vaccinated and even left wing liberal states have all but fully re opened.

England, which has far from 80% fully vaccinated, is pledging to have full pubs and nightclubs three weekends from now.

The North is reviewing their own progress on July 8th.

It is quite possible that on the coming August Bank Holiday weekend young people in Dundalk will at best be drinking in a beer garden but can hop in a taxi to go to a nightclub in Newry.

It is absolutely comical at this stage and MM should be jailed and sued to the poor house over his inept handling of it.

I think it was previously said on this thread that the UK 80% is 80% of population while our 80% (August) is 80% of adults. Very different thing.
Apologies if I remember incorrectly.

klose · 06-07-2021 07:24AM

growleaves wrote: »

Link

Vaccines do not appear to prevent acquisition and propagation of covid (but we knew that already?)

The nurse who jabbed me yesterday basically gave a statement of facts about the vaccine etc and the last line was basically it won't fully cover you from getting covid, it's to prevent you from getting sick/dying, which is all anyone would care about really.

seamus · 06-07-2021 07:37AM

xboxdad wrote: »

I think it was previously said on this thread that the UK 80% is 80% of population while our 80% (August) is 80% of adults. Very different thing.
Apologies if I remember incorrectly.

For now, the upper limit for the UK and Ireland is 80% of the total population fully vaccinated, the other 20% are ineligible.

Our original target was 82% of those eligible (i.e. adults) to be offered a vaccine by the end of June. Which was missed because of supply.

If this Romanian deal comes through, the talk is that we could have the entire adult population with a first dose by the first week in August, fully vaxxed by the time colleges go back.

That'd be a full month ahead of our original schedule set out in March. The UK is not expected to finish until October IIRC.

GeorgeBailey · 06-07-2021 08:05AM

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Can we call it something else? Freedom Day is so right wing British tabloid.

How about "The day most restrictions are lifted".

is_that_so · 06-07-2021 08:10AM

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Can we call it something else? Freedom Day is so right wing British tabloid.

Let's not commemorate it at all in any way.

stephenjmcd · 06-07-2021 08:10AM

Snickers Man wrote: »

Is there any logic to which clinic/vaccination centre people are being allocated?

I got my first dose (Astro Zeneca) a few weeks ago at the Aviva, which is within walking distance for me. For the second dose, they want to send me to Greystones which, according to Google Maps, is an hour and a half away by public transport.

Surely there is a centre somewhere in my county (which is feckin DUBLIN after all) where I could be accommodated. Is this typical?

I believe the Aviva, UCD & Greystones are all being used for Dublin & Wicklow as they're the same public health area.

Sure there's people in South Dublin / North Wicklow where Greystones would be easier but they're getting sent to the Aviva.

It's all about where the capacity is & it's possible the Aviva might not be doing AZ on that particular day

airy fairy · 06-07-2021 08:18AM

Snickers Man wrote: »

Is there any logic to which clinic/vaccination centre people are being allocated?

I got my first dose (Astro Zeneca) a few weeks ago at the Aviva, which is within walking distance for me. For the second dose, they want to send me to Greystones which, according to Google Maps, is an hour and a half away by public transport.

Surely there is a centre somewhere in my county (which is feckin DUBLIN after all) where I could be accommodated. Is this typical?

There is logic.
You are being sent where vaccines are being supplied to. Obviously Greystones has more people getting Astra Zeneca.
This is happening all over the country. And you're luckier than a lot in that you can avail of public transport. Lots can't.
You can always cancel and see if you're offered someplace else.

06-07-2021 08:22AM

Padre_Pio wrote: »

27,000 new cases in the UK. Third highest in the world. Increasing at the same rate as the last wave.

All COVID measures are coming to an end in the next few weeks.

Thankfully deaths are few for now.

the infection rate increase = death rate increase theory was disproven weeks ago thankfully

there is heavy emphasis on proactive testing in the UK still, so there is a trend towards new infections being asymptomatic infections detected during these tests or from track and trace.... not people getting tested because they are unwell

Which is great news.... bring on 19th... although it's been pretty normal for a few weeks now

stephenjmcd · 06-07-2021 08:24AM

Interesting to see the numbers done per MVC

https://twitter.com/muirtheimhne/status/1412298268663558144?s=20

questionmark? · 06-07-2021 08:31AM

Pfizer reporting that they expect 16k staff and relatives to be fully vaccinated by end of July and are in the process of passing the data on those who received it to the HSE. Nice little boost to the vaccine program.

blackcard · 06-07-2021 08:38AM

seamus wrote: »

For now, the upper limit for the UK and Ireland is 80% of the total population fully vaccinated, the other 20% are ineligible.

Our original target was 82% of those eligible (i.e. adults) to be offered a vaccine by the end of June. Which was missed because of supply.

If this Romanian deal comes through, the talk is that we could have the entire adult population with a first dose by the first week in August, fully vaxxed by the time colleges go back.

That'd be a full month ahead of our original schedule set out in March. The UK is not expected to finish until October IIRC.

What is the anticipated percentage of adults in Ireland and the UK who want to take a vaccine? As the amount of people getting the vaccine slos down and eventually becomes a trickle, will the MVC's be shut down or are they kept in place for boosters? Will there be issues with storage as the roll out slows down? Has any country dosed U18's yet?

is_that_so · 06-07-2021 08:42AM

blackcard wrote: »

What is the anticipated percentage of adults in Ireland and the UK who want to take a vaccine? As the amount of people getting the vaccine slos down and eventually becomes a trickle, will the MVC's be shut down or are they kept in place for boosters? Will there be issues with storage as the roll out slows down? Has any country dosed U18's yet?

Israel has done U18s and US too. MVCs will wind down in time. Boosters are likely to be aimed at the more vulnerable like care homes etc and GPs/pharmacies a more probable option for the public.

rm212 · 06-07-2021 09:02AM

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

Interesting. I always knew we received the second dose of Pfizer just over the bare minimum interval. HSE minimum is 17 days apart but EMA is 19 days and Pfizer and CDC say 21 days. It was 18 days apart as the hospital received a bigger delivery than expected so expanded the second dose beyond medical staff who had a longer interval. The side effects were fierce for lots of us which would imply it was too soon. I definitely want a booster shot soon. I wonder why the HSE have the lowest interval..

Where do you get the idea that side effect intensity has anything to do with whether the dosing interval was too soon? Are you going to back that up with anything, or are you just pulling that one out of behind?

tailgunner · 06-07-2021 09:32AM

DoodleDooBoo wrote: »

Well I'm sorry to hear that you're in the same boat but glad not to be alone! Have you had any joy since? I've kept calling for an update and am just told that a case is still opened and that I should be contacted soon. This thursday will be a month since I should have had my second dose. It's infuriating.

No joy since. I rang since and got the same as you - just wait to get contacted. I'm only due for my second dose at the end of the week, so not overly concerned yet.

Hope you get sorted soon, a month late for the second dose is a bit mad!

06-07-2021 09:35AM

the Pfizer vaccine has been noted to have more of the common side effects after the second dose, I haven't seen anything relating to intensity of those symptoms because of length of time between doses

seamus · 06-07-2021 09:38AM

blackcard wrote: »

What is the anticipated percentage of adults in Ireland and the UK who want to take a vaccine?

The percentage of people who say they'll refuse the vaccine is about 7% in the UK and 4% in Ireland, though reducing all the time. The "unsure" percentages funnily are reversed, 4% and 7%. So both countries have about 89% who will definitely take the vaccine.

The UK has bigger pockets of ethnic communities where uptake is low. It would be silly to assume these ethnic communities in Ireland don't have the same issues. The size of the communities is likely smaller though, which means there shouldn't be any major issue with localised outbreaks.

km79 · 06-07-2021 09:42AM

Wife had moderna dose 2 yesterday AM and had a very rough night ! Sore arm as before but also a headache and temperature spikes . She said she felt freezing but at same time had a high temp. No sleep for her

I had Pfizer dose 2 yesterday afternoon . Had sore back and leg muscles as after dose 1. Muscle fatigue I guess you could call it. This time I did have sore arm overnight which I didn’t after dose 1.
Very little sleep but that may be due to the first paragraph

We are heading away to a hotel in our county tomorrow for 3 nights. Glad it’s not today tbh

GLaDOS · 06-07-2021 09:44AM

30 - 34 can register tomorrow

https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1412329785456566273

rm212 · 06-07-2021 09:49AM

GLaDOS wrote: »

30 - 34 can register tomorrow

https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1412329785456566273

With those million doses incoming and that group being brought forward, they might be actually planning to open for 25-29 on Monday, when the AZ opt-in opens up, given that move forward perfectly coincides with 30 year olds (the bottom of the 30-34 range) registering on Sunday.

ShadowTech · 06-07-2021 09:51AM

GLaDOS wrote: »

30 - 34 can register tomorrow

https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1412329785456566273

I’d be incredibly appreciative if they could give people 35+ their appointments before moving on to the next group. I’m still here twiddling my thumbs (and checking the portal so frequently I’m now convinced I’m OCD) and nothing. Not trying to begrudge others, just really frustrated.

rm212 · 06-07-2021 09:52AM

ShadowTech wrote: »

I’d be incredibly appreciative if they could give people 35+ their appointments before moving on to the next group. I’m still here twiddling my thumbs (and checking the portal so frequently I’m now convinced I’m OCD) and nothing. Not trying to begrudge others, just really frustrated.

You'll get it before the 30-34s get their appt, and also you'll usually only get 48 hours notice or so. They'll be flying through everyone when the extra 1 million doses arrive early next week.

ShadowTech · 06-07-2021 09:57AM

rm212 wrote: »

You'll get it before the 30-34s get their appt, and also you'll usually only get 48 hours notice or so. They'll be flying through everyone when the extra 1 million doses arrive early next week.

I really hope you’re right. I don’t mind who gets what first; I just hate the uncertainty of not knowing when I’ll be sorted.

JohnnyChimpo · 06-07-2021 10:00AM

ShadowTech wrote: »

I’d be incredibly appreciative if they could give people 35+ their appointments before moving on to the next group. I’m still here twiddling my thumbs (and checking the portal so frequently I’m now convinced I’m OCD) and nothing. Not trying to begrudge others, just really frustrated.

Understandable, and I'm in the same group. But it's a conveyor belt system; you don't wait for the last Jaffa Cake to get coated in chocolate before you start baking the next batch, you just keep moving along.

muckisluck · 06-07-2021 10:03AM

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Can we call it something else? Freedom Day is so right wing British tabloid.

“Tá ár lá tagtha” perhaps

Cona44 · 06-07-2021 10:05AM

Anyone know what is happening with Pharmacy’s giving vaccine for 18-34s?

My local pharmacy’s are not taking bookings and just say they atr waiting for stock...

km79 · 06-07-2021 10:06AM

Cona44 wrote: »

Anyone know what is happening with Pharmacy’s giving vaccine for 18-34s?

My local pharmacy’s are not taking bookings and just say they atr waiting for stock...

What the pharmacy said !

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