This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

ELM327 · 21-06-2021 10:41AM

It's a different one than the last one. Last one was a 2012 Jap spec import and this is a 131 EU spec model (albeit at the time they were imported from japan when new)

KCross · 21-06-2021 10:42AM

ELM327 wrote: »

It's a different one than the last one. Last one was a 2012 Jap spec import and this is a 131 EU spec model (albeit at the time they were imported from japan when new)

I've seen it on Done deal before.... it was listed many months ago.

unkel · 21-06-2021 11:00AM

The other one was also in Cork, also same colour. It probably is the same car

Still asking price is too high, for €2k it's a decent deal for anyone who has a local CHAdeMO charger round the corner from them (like me). You could even buy it, get the free home charge point and then sell it for the battery (worth about €1.5k) if the DC charge only doesn't work out for you.

baldshin · 21-06-2021 06:16PM

How do we feel about this Leaf?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2012-nissan-leaf/27858800

Looking to get a second electric as my wife will soon be driving my Ioniq up and down to Limerick every day, so I'll need something as a runaround around town in Galway (living 10km from the city), and with a new baby on the way, and me being 6'2", her Fiat 500 isn't gonna work for us.

Also looking at the previously mentioned Jap spec Leaf, would it being an import affect insurance and, if not, on paper, which looks the better car?

unkel · 21-06-2021 07:54PM

baldshin wrote: »

How do we feel about this Leaf?

Grand job for your needs, but personally I would want to do a deal closer to €3k than €4k.

ELM327 · 22-06-2021 10:02AM

looks grand once youre aware of the limitations.

the_amazing_raisin · 22-06-2021 01:24PM

baldshin wrote: »

How do we feel about this Leaf?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2012-nissan-leaf/27858800

Looking to get a second electric as my wife will soon be driving my Ioniq up and down to Limerick every day, so I'll need something as a runaround around town in Galway (living 10km from the city), and with a new baby on the way, and me being 6'2", her Fiat 500 isn't gonna work for us.

Also looking at the previously mentioned Jap spec Leaf, would it being an import affect insurance and, if not, on paper, which looks the better car?

4 bars gone means you've 55% left in battery capacity (1st bar is 15% AFAIK and the rest are about 7.5%)

So you're talking 50-60km range remaining

Also those 2012 Leafs didn't have the heat pump I think, so the heating might take a big chunk of range in winter. Definitely want to preheat while plugged in

unkel · 22-06-2021 02:32PM

Even on the coldest day he will have no problem doing his 20 odd km reurn trip into Galway with the heat blasting on full. Good cheap tool for the job.

the_amazing_raisin · 22-06-2021 02:41PM

unkel wrote: »

Even on the coldest day he will have no problem doing his 20 odd km reurn trip into Galway with the heat blasting on full. Good cheap tool for the job.

True, I think people get caught with the Leaf's non-linear battery degredation.

8/12 bars should logically correspond to 66% battery health, but because the top bar is worth double it has more of an effect

mickotoole · 22-06-2021 11:05PM

Gumbo wrote: »

Deposit taken on the P85D.

This was me. I put a deposit down Friday week and picked up the car today. I've been keeping an eye out for years now and thanks to this thread I finally found one that was in my price range and the model I wanted. I can't wait to start driving it in earnest. Cheers to the poster that linked to the ad.

mickotoole · 22-06-2021 11:05PM

Gumbo wrote: »

Deposit taken on the P85D.

This was me. I put a deposit down Friday week and picked up the car today. I've been keeping an eye out for years now and thanks to this thread I finally found one that was in my price range and the model I wanted. I can't wait to start driving it in earnest. Cheers to the poster that linked to the ad.

unkel · 22-06-2021 11:08PM

mickotoole wrote: »

This was me. I put a deposit down Friday week and picked up the car today. I've been keeping an eye out for years now and thanks to this thread I finally found one that was in my price range and the model I wanted. I can't wait to start driving it in earnest. Cheers to the poster that linked to the ad.

That was me, you're welcome! Well wear & enjoy :cool:

Most of us owners were looking for a Model S for a very long time too, before we bought one. We know the feeling!

Gumbo · 22-06-2021 11:25PM

mickotoole wrote: »

This was me. I put a deposit down Friday week and picked up the car today. I've been keeping an eye out for years now and thanks to this thread I finally found one that was in my price range and the model I wanted. I can't wait to start driving it in earnest. Cheers to the poster that linked to the ad.

Absolute fantastic. And what a version to jump straight into!

There’s a few little tweaks and add ins that I’d recommend.
Maybe start a thread with a few photos an dill throw the list in there and see if anything tickles your fancy.

mickotoole · 22-06-2021 11:31PM

unkel wrote: »

That was me, you're welcome! Well wear & enjoy :cool:

Most of us owners were looking for a Model S for a very long time too, before we bought one. We know the feeling!

Thanks a million. I've been slowly wearing the wife down and the fact it was a 7 seater clinched it. Thanks again for posting that ad. I'm delighted with myself!

mickotoole · 22-06-2021 11:33PM

Gumbo wrote: »

Absolute fantastic. And what a version to jump straight into!

There’s a few little tweaks and add ins that I’d recommend.
Maybe start a thread with a few photos an dill throw the list in there and see if anything tickles your fancy.

I'll snap a few pictures tomorrow and get cracking. Any resources that you would recommend for a newcomer?

Gumbo · 23-06-2021 11:46AM

mickotoole wrote: »

I'll snap a few pictures tomorrow and get cracking. Any resources that you would recommend for a newcomer?

I’ll put a few things together with links later when on the pc.

mickotoole · 23-06-2021 02:29PM

Gumbo wrote: »

I’ll put a few things together with links later when on the pc.

That would be great. Thanks a million Gumbo.

Gumbo · 23-06-2021 07:13PM

mickotoole wrote: »

That would be great. Thanks a million Gumbo.

Screen protector for the main screen. Helps with glare and finger prints.
J&D Compatible for Tesla Model X/Tesla Model S 17 inch Car Navigation Screen Protector (1-Pack), Anti-Glare Matte Film Shield Screen Protector for 60 60D 70 70D P85D 90D 100 P100D 75D P90D P100D https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07WC16JFZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_HTE07GJXX0X5E16PHP20?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Rear boot parcel shelf. Such a simple thing that should be factory fit. You could probably make one yourself or buy from here
https://abstractocean.com/products/auto-lift

Rear licence plate LED bulbs. The halogen look a bit cheap.
https://abstractocean.com/collections/model-s/products/ms-led-license-plate-bulb-kit

slave1 · 23-06-2021 07:44PM

Gumbo wrote: »

Rear boot parcel shelf. Such a simple thing that should be factory fit. You could probably make one yourself or buy from here
https://abstractocean.com/products/auto-lift

That's 100% a requirement, can't understand it being missing

mickotoole · 23-06-2021 08:35PM

slave1 wrote: »

That's 100% a requirement, can't understand it being missing

I spotted a 3d print for this exact thing. I might fire up the 3d printer and see if I can make something myself. Kids have been using the jump seat exclusively since I got the car so the parcel shelf is under the stairs.

RonnieL · 24-06-2021 04:05PM

I hope it's ok to post this here, as it's not really a bargain alert (although it may become one!). I'm expecting to receive my Ioniq early next week (thanks again to the posters on here for alerting me to it), so I'm going to be selling my 142 Nissan Leaf 24 Tekna. I'll attach a couple of pictures. It's got 115000kms on the clock, and 11 out of the 12 bars left. It's in good condition, with a few cosmetic scrapes on the paintwork and alloys. I've had a look on done deal, and there seems to be a massive variance in prices for second hand leafs. A friend is potentially interested in buying it, so I'd like to come up with a price that's fair, without doing myself out of too much (I'd be happy enough having to not deal with tyre kickers from done deal if I can avoid it).

the_amazing_raisin · 24-06-2021 04:15PM

RonnieL wrote: »

I hope it's ok to post this here, as it's not really a bargain alert (although it may become one!). I'm expecting to receive my Ioniq early next week (thanks again to the posters on here for alerting me to it), so I'm going to be selling my 142 Nissan Leaf 24 Tekna. I'll attach a couple of pictures. It's got 115000kms on the clock, and 11 out of the 12 bars left. It's in good condition, with a few cosmetic scrapes on the paintwork and alloys. I've had a look on done deal, and there seems to be a massive variance in prices for second hand leafs. A friend is potentially interested in buying it, so I'd like to come up with a price that's fair, without doing myself out of too much (I'd be happy enough having to not deal with tyre kickers from done deal if I can avoid it).

Selling a car to a friend is a great way to end any friendship :pac:

I guess one thing you can do is filter out the dealership sales from done deal, they tend to charge a premium anyway

I guess to give you some context, last January I was going to trade in my 2016 Leaf24 Acenta with 12/12 bars and 60,000km. I was offered €7k from the dealership and I reckon I could have gotten €9k if I sold privately

unkel · 25-06-2021 04:24PM

The Limerick Leaf that has been for sale for a while just dropped to €3495 asking price. NCTd, both cables (you could sell the granny cable for the guts of €200 if money is real tight), get a free home charge point installed. He's not going to refuse €3k cash, is he?

If I had not just bought an even cheaper EV, I'd be all over this. Someone in here go get yourself a real bargain quickly before it's gone!

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Linky

ted1 · 29-06-2021 07:27PM

unkel wrote: »

The Limerick Leaf that has been for sale for a while just dropped to €3495 asking price. NCTd, both cables (you could sell the granny cable for the guts of €200 if money is real tight), get a free home charge point installed. He's not going to refuse €3k cash, is he?

If I had not just bought an even cheaper EV, I'd be all over this. Someone in here go get yourself a real bargain quickly before it's gone!

Linky

What range would you expect from it?

ELM327 · 29-06-2021 07:42PM

Assuming it's down ~4 bars (guess) I would expect 55-65km as a real world range. A perfect second car.

unkel · 29-06-2021 09:25PM

Yep same as my Fluence. About 60km range (not motorway speeds). As ELM says, a perfect second car. And for the kids to learn to drive in. Buy it cheap enough and your total cost of ownership will be cheaper than any other car you could buy, even cheaper than a car that someone gives you for free.

29-06-2021 09:28PM

unkel wrote: »

Yep same as my Fluence. About 60km range (not motorway speeds). As ELM says, a perfect second car. And for the kids to learn to drive in. Buy it cheap enough and your total cost of ownership will be cheaper than any other car you could buy, even cheaper than a car that someone gives you for free.

Would you not want the kids to learn to drive on a manual?

Black_Knight · 29-06-2021 09:36PM

MAXFANTANA wrote: »

Would you not want the kids to learn to drive on a manual?

Slim chance they'll need to know how to drive a manual the way things are going.
You get a leaf, and you get a leaf, and you get a leaf!

29-06-2021 09:39PM

Black_Knight wrote: »

Slim chance they'll need to know how to drive a manual the way things are going.
You get a leaf, and you get a leaf, and you get a leaf!

Yeah I agree, I just think if I was learning within the next 5 years I’d like to have a manual license. I actually think if I was turning 18 again with rental accommodation and going on weekends away I’d stick with a small 1 litre petrol. Not sure EVs are that suitable for students currently.

unkel · 29-06-2021 10:49PM

MAXFANTANA wrote: »

Would you not want the kids to learn to drive on a manual?

We've given that a lot of thought and decided not to.

The main drawback of course is that they will only ever be able to drive automatics. But all cars will be automatic in the next few years anyway and you can already buy cheap electric (=automatic) second hand cars, so it won't be an issue for the kids buying their first cars

The big benefit of course is that it is much easier, quicker (and cheaper) to learn to drive in an automatic and also low end electric cars are generally about the cheapest possible cars to insure

Top that up with the fact that my children have no particular interest in (classic) cars. They have no desire to master driving a traditional car with a traditional clutch and manual gears, and the decision was made.

This week's EV bargain that I'm not buying

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