Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

prunudo · 27-06-2021 08:52PM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

If we delay until the 19th we are in big trouble. You’d imagine cases will increase over the next few weeks due to the Delta variant, they won’t translate to an increase in deaths or hospitalisations but high cases numbers come a review before the 19th and Sir Tony will recommend staying as we are or rolling backwards.

Then it’s August, schools, etc.

You'd almost be forgiven for thinking that was the plan all along. Except the ct forum is that way >

facehugger99 · 27-06-2021 08:55PM

Up in Nordieland this evening and watching the Belgium v Portugal match inside a pub with a few pints.

It's actually striking how many foreign accents you hear around. Who in their right mind would head to the Republic at the moment? Add in all the Free Staters up here for a long weekend and it's boom time in the North.

Our loss is very much their gain

Still at least we don't need the revenue or anything, we can just keep borrowing tens of billions for no good reason.

God it's a relief to get up north and out of the Republic for a few days - and I never thought I'd type that sentence.

zackory · 27-06-2021 09:11PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Up in Nordieland this evening and watching the Belgium v Portugal match inside a pub with a few pints.

It's actually striking how many foreign accents you hear around. Who in their right mind would head to the Republic at the moment? Add in all the Free Staters up here for a long weekend and it's boom time in the North.

Our loss is very much their gain

Still at least we don't need the revenue or anything, we can just keep borrowing tens of billions for no good reason.

God it's a relief to get up north and out of the Republic for a few days - and I never thought I'd type that sentence.

And spreading and bringing home the highly highly transmissible delta variant.

Same with all the people illegally getting into hotels.

Yet we are not seeing any increase in cases.

Richard Hillman · 27-06-2021 09:14PM

Aph2016 wrote: »

It's always going to be two more weeks. Restaurants, pubs and cafes need to come together and just re-open, strength in numbers, if it's just one or two places, they'll lose their license when it's due to be renewed, this won't happen if everyone does it. It's criminal what they've had to put up with.

The vintners put up with it because they were promised minimum pricing of alcohol in Off-licences. The worst hit sector of all, pubs. Absolutely zero trade for a lot of pubs and their union have had their mouths shut for over a year. They could have easily organised a mass disobedience of restrictions. But no, they were bought by the government to bring in MUP.

27-06-2021 09:20PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Wash rinse repeat of last year. We were in the exact situation last year. Restrictions were due to be lifted come July, then it was put back despite the fact that we were in low double digit numbers for cases. Then when August appeared it was all about getting kids back to school.

The cases will go up when schools go back. And of course, the kids won't be vaccinated by then.

So then with cases creeping up come October and we are waiting around for all of the kids to be double jabbed, we'll be back again to "Save Christmas". Winter will be kicking in, cases will naturally sky rocket and Guess What? Its been a year since the most vulnerable had their first jab. They'll need the "Booster".

So we're back to February/March. Cases in 4 digits.The over 60s will be queued up for their booster jabs. The "variants" will be more varianty. We'll be told, we just have to wait until the vulnerable have had their boosters. Then it will be "oh this new variant", we'll have to wait until all adults have had their booster.

So then we'll be at August 2022. The Angolan Rainforest Variant, 9 zillion times more contagious than the last will be reaping it's way through the world giving people the sniffles and those kids will need their booster jab. We need to get cases down to save the school return from being delayed.

This **** ain't ending folks. Not unless a big **** off is given by the public.

“And the prize for fiction goes to….Richard Hillman”

zackory · 27-06-2021 09:26PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

They could have easily organised a mass disobedience of restrictions.

Well no, garda objection to your licence and you are gone.

Richard Hillman · 27-06-2021 10:04PM

zackory wrote: »

Well no, garda objection to your licence and you are gone.

All of them? Every pub in Ireland

the kelt · 27-06-2021 10:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

All night party’s in pubs?

I’d be fairly sure if the pubs don’t open all those young un vaccinated people will all stay at home and not go anywhere at all!

Richard Hillman · 27-06-2021 10:06PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

“And the prize for fiction goes to….Richard Hillman”

Well then I'll ask you what I asked a few pages ago.

Under what circumstances do you believe the NPHET Government will undo all restrictions?

27-06-2021 10:12PM

Good stuff lads, burning away your weekend posting on here as usual.

km79 · 27-06-2021 10:16PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Good stuff lads, burning away your weekend posting on here as usual.

Am...........

Stormyteacup · 27-06-2021 10:27PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Good stuff lads, burning away your weekend posting on here as usual.

Do you pop into every thread of a Sunday eve to admonish wasteful weekend posting, or just this one?

27-06-2021 10:34PM

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Do you pop into every thread of a Sunday eve to admonish wasteful weekend posting, or just this one?

Mainly just this one. Most threads don't have people posting in them non-stop every day for months on end. While asserting they should be able to do outside / indoor things.

jammiedodgers · 27-06-2021 10:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Mainly just this one. Most threads don't have people posting in them non-stop every day for months on end. While asserting they should be able to do outside / indoor things.

You'd swear it was an internet forum the way people go on.

Wait...

Dickie10 · 27-06-2021 10:40PM

yeah i think mass opening my every pub and restaurunt in the country next monday is the way forward, never thought in would say that about myself seeing as i hate the looney left! crazy to think im typing this. but yes everypub, hotel and restaurant will need to take a stand and just open, and no , every pub wont lose thier licence come next november, that will clog up courts and all cases will be thrown out. now is the time to stand united.

will it happen.......? not a hope. good job we were never in a communist state in ireland or ever went full facist we would have never rose up, hard to believe we ever did become an independent country at all. but its actually very easy to see how we shut girls away in magdalene laundries and ordinary irish people dug pits and threw in babies and children into them and told nobody. or thought it was ok to do all manner of things to vulnerable people once the government or church gave the ok. question nothing , whatever the people in charge say we do. If we were taken over by the NAZI party in 1940s we would have been out in our hundreds of thousands hailing Hitler and i would think a good few would have delighted in rounded up any jew or suspect commie they could find to hand over to the SS. We would have the 1940s version of tubridy interviewing the top ranking german Nazis and asking are we good little irish nazis?

bear1 · 27-06-2021 11:02PM

What's fascinating is that when water charges were being brought in, you had protests up and down the country.
But with this? "Ah no worries Tony, Martin and Leo, it's great having restrictions so we will just carry this on.
Also we don't need to travel, Ireland is hot enough and is very well priced. We don't need those foreign tourists anyway. Ah and we can easily wear masks non stop."
They haven't even mentioned their plans with the masks.

Penfailed · 28-06-2021 12:01AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Well technically summer is over end of July so it's fairly realistic.

Well, technically, it's the 22nd of September...so...no.

gozunda · 28-06-2021 12:03AM

Dickie10 wrote: »

yeah i think mass opening my every pub and restaurunt in the country next monday is the way forward, never thought in would say that about myself seeing as i hate the looney left! crazy to think im typing this. but yes everypub, hotel and restaurant will need to take a stand and just open, and no , every pub wont lose thier licence come next november, that will clog up courts and all cases will be thrown out. now is the time to stand united.

will it happen.......? not a hope. good job we were never in a communist state in ireland or ever went full facist we would have never rose up, hard to believe we ever did become an independent country at all. but its actually very easy to see how we shut girls away in magdalene laundries and ordinary irish people dug pits and threw in babies and children into them and told nobody. or thought it was ok to do all manner of things to vulnerable people once the government or church gave the ok. question nothing , whatever the people in charge say we do. If we were taken over by the NAZI party in 1940s we would have been out in our hundreds of thousands hailing Hitler and i would think a good few would have delighted in rounded up any jew or suspect commie they could find to hand over to the SS. We would have the 1940s version of tubridy interviewing the top ranking german Nazis and asking are we good little irish nazis?

Truely that's the most comprehensive Godwin I've seen on Boards to date...

Jinglejangle69 · 28-06-2021 12:05AM

The varrrrrrrriaaants.....

hamburgham · 28-06-2021 12:14AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Up in Nordieland this evening and watching the Belgium v Portugal match inside a pub with a few pints.

It's actually striking how many foreign accents you hear around. Who in their right mind would head to the Republic at the moment? Add in all the Free Staters up here for a long weekend and it's boom time in the North.

Our loss is very much their gain

Still at least we don't need the revenue or anything, we can just keep borrowing tens of billions for no good reason.

God it's a relief to get up north and out of the Republic for a few days - and I never thought I'd type that sentence.

This is where we’re at now, that daily life is more normal in Northern Ireland that it is down here. God help us.

nocoverart · 28-06-2021 12:50AM

Ruining a Summer for no reason, and all the good we done with no reward but “we’re a great little nation” probably the most pro vaccine nation in the world too. Winter is coming lads and we know how sh1t the ending of that show was… embarrassed to be Irish!

Glico Man · 28-06-2021 02:02AM

niallo27 wrote: »

I was up the North for the week, no dreadful inevitability up there, pubs full, restaurants full. People getting on with their lives.

I live in the North, I work in a restaurant as a manager. We're just getting on with things to be honest and trying to get back to where we were before this whole thing shut our doors. We're packed. Indoors and outdoors.

We have spaces between tables, perspex screens when that space isn't possible, we all wear masks during service, we have a 'moving around the restaurant' mask policy for customers, we disinfect tables after every seating and have sanitiser pretty much everywhere. We're as safe as can possibly be ourselves, and many other restaurants are like ourselves.

Positive infection numbers have gone up since we reopened, that was expected, however death rates are at their lowest. While yes, every death is a tragedy, the fact remains, NI has had 3 deaths since hospitality all opened our doors.

I'm glad we reopened properly up here when we did. Not because I get back to work (proper work not deliveries and collections) and make a decent living wage again, but because I get to do what I enjoy and I get to see all the faces we had in for dinner and drinks before we closed the first time, and the second and the third. Its nice to 'see' people again. People enjoying being around others and the atmosphere it creates.

Sometimes, you just have to stop being so soft and accept that people are responsible. We're all aware of what we have to do and keep doing to keep positive numbers down as best we can. You can't keep pausing and pausing and kicking the can further down the road over and over again.

gozunda · 28-06-2021 02:16AM

Glico Man wrote: »

I live in the North, I work in a restaurant as a manager. We're just getting on with things to be honest and trying to get back to where we were before this whole thing shut our doors. We're packed. Indoors and outdoors.

We have spaces between tables, perspex screens when that space isn't possible, we all wear masks during service, we have a 'moving around the restaurant' mask policy for customers, we disinfect tables after every seating and have sanitiser pretty much everywhere. We're as safe as can possibly be ourselves, and many other restaurants are like ourselves.

Positive infection numbers have gone up since we reopened, that was expected, however death rates are at their lowest. While yes, every death is a tragedy, the fact remains, NI has had 3 deaths since hospitality all opened our doors.

I'm glad we reopened properly up here when we did. Not because I get back to work (proper work not deliveries and collections) and make a decent living wage again, but because I get to do what I enjoy and I get to see all the faces we had in for dinner and drinks before we closed the first time, and the second and the third. Its nice to 'see' people again. People enjoying being around others and the atmosphere it creates.

Sometimes, you just have to stop being so soft and accept that people are responsible. We're all aware of what we have to do and keep doing to keep positive numbers down as best we can. You can't keep pausing and pausing and kicking the can further down the road over and over again.

Good on ye and it all sounds like its going the right way. Here we've yet to meet up where you're at with regard to vaccination levels but yes outdoor is open - for both pubs and restaurants. For indoors - hopefully we'll be where you're at very shortly.

PalLimerick · 28-06-2021 05:51AM

Penfailed wrote: »

Well, technically, it's the 22nd of September...so...no.

Yeah if you live in America or another Country but in Ireland Summer is over the end of July.

28-06-2021 06:38AM

the kelt wrote: »

I’d be fairly sure if the pubs don’t open all those young un vaccinated people will all stay at home and not go anywhere at all!

The poster I was replying to suggested that all night parties would result from pubs opening, not from them not opening

Play the ball, not the man

zackory · 28-06-2021 07:45AM

gozunda wrote: »

Good on ye and it all sounds like its going the right way. Here we've yet to meet up where you're at with regard to vaccination levels but yes outdoor is open - for both pubs and restaurants. For indoors - hopefully we'll be where you're at very shortly.

We've actually had indoor dining since June 2nd. Rules not been enforced so hotels are making the most of it, ultimately being extremely busy, creating potential super spreader events, yet government pretend its not happening.

_Kaiser_ · 28-06-2021 08:01AM

Glico Man wrote: »

I live in the North, I work in a restaurant as a manager. We're just getting on with things to be honest and trying to get back to where we were before this whole thing shut our doors. We're packed. Indoors and outdoors.

We have spaces between tables, perspex screens when that space isn't possible, we all wear masks during service, we have a 'moving around the restaurant' mask policy for customers, we disinfect tables after every seating and have sanitiser pretty much everywhere. We're as safe as can possibly be ourselves, and many other restaurants are like ourselves.

Positive infection numbers have gone up since we reopened, that was expected, however death rates are at their lowest. While yes, every death is a tragedy, the fact remains, NI has had 3 deaths since hospitality all opened our doors.

I'm glad we reopened properly up here when we did. Not because I get back to work (proper work not deliveries and collections) and make a decent living wage again, but because I get to do what I enjoy and I get to see all the faces we had in for dinner and drinks before we closed the first time, and the second and the third. Its nice to 'see' people again. People enjoying being around others and the atmosphere it creates.

Sometimes, you just have to stop being so soft and accept that people are responsible. We're all aware of what we have to do and keep doing to keep positive numbers down as best we can. You can't keep pausing and pausing and kicking the can further down the road over and over again.

As positive as this is in one respect, and there's no reason whatsoever that we here couldn't do the same thing (although according to the Indo the 2 week delay is pretty much certain now), the only thing I'd be wary of is describing this as reopening properly.

Until we don't have perspex screens or limits on numbers, and the whole game of musical masks stops, we won't be back to a proper/normal reopening.

I for one don't want the idea of micromanaging and planning people's social lives, adding expense and reduced trade capacity to business, and trying to keep people concerned about a virus that the overwhelming majority are at little risk from, to become "normal" in any sense of the word.

the kelt · 28-06-2021 09:04AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The poster I was replying to suggested that all night parties would result from pubs opening, not from them not opening

Play the ball, not the man

I was agreeing with ye, sarcasm!

The original poster seemed to suggest that if the pubs were open we would have un vaccinated people partying all night, of course by keeping them closed that meant theres no chance of that happening :rolleyes:

Dempo1 · 28-06-2021 09:09AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

As positive as this is in one respect, and there's no reason whatsoever that we here couldn't do the same thing (although according to the Indo the 2 week delay is pretty much certain now), the only thing I'd be wary of is describing this as reopening properly.

Until we don't have perspex screens or limits on numbers, and the whole game of musical masks stops, we won't be back to a proper/normal reopening.

I for one don't want the idea of micromanaging and planning people's social lives, adding expense and reduced trade capacity to business, and trying to keep people concerned about a virus that the overwhelming majority are at little risk from, to become "normal" in any sense of the word.

I have to agree but commend the OP on their positive outlook. The Restaurant business model has been utterly changed and I have to say, personally I wouldn't be all that encouraged to dine in tight spaces, surrounded by partitions, staff having to wear masks and this bizzare face shields (already proven to be useless). Dining out by its very nature is an experience, what restaurants will have to adhere to for the foreseeable future will I'm afraid not make the dining experience a pleasant one.

I will be slightly better for pub dining, more space and less formality etc, but the fact remains, I genuinely can't see a mad rush for people to go out dining generally, whether it be indoor or out door, I don't say this because of health concerns, I come at this from a customer experience point of view.

stephenjmcd · 28-06-2021 09:12AM

Dempo1 wrote: »

I I genuinely can't see a mad rush for people to go out dining generally, whether it be indoor or out door, I don't say this because of health concerns, I come at this from a customer experience point of view.

Have a look there this morning and try and get a booking for any weekend coming soon. You'll find it quite difficult. The demand is most certainly there.

I also know of places that prematurely started taking indoor bookings, again not a booking to be got

It might not be your cup of tea but each time hospitality has reopened there's been no issue with lack of demand be it indoor or outdoor

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