Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

beaz2018 · 27-06-2021 05:53PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

For anyone defending restrictions. There is a large amount of them judging by polls but they seem to be very quiet.

Under what circumstance do you believe the NPHET Government will lift all restrictions?

We know the vaccine doesn't eliminate the virus, it just alleviates the symptoms. The case numbers will not disappear. Vaccine uptake is a lot lower in other countries than here and there will be about 10% here that won't take the vaccine at all (roughly 500,000 people).

There are 13 people in ICU. Older and very vulnerable will still be at a risk. That 13 won't be changing much. Those 300-400 cases a day won't be changing, even with the vaccine. In fact unless restrictions actually do work, which I am sure you believe, those cases will be going up. And they'll definitely be going up for winter.

So I ask again, under what circumstances do you believe that the NPHET Government will get rid of all restrictions?

"when covid is gone" is what a workmate said to me this week. What can you say to that.

facehugger99 · 27-06-2021 05:57PM

beaz2018 wrote: »

"when covid is gone" is what a workmate said to me this week. What can you say to that.

It's depressing these people are entitled to a vote.

Quags · 27-06-2021 06:03PM

beaz2018 wrote: »

"when covid is gone" is what a workmate said to me this week. What can you say to that.

No doubt that workmate still thinks the Gov are in this together with us & RTE are always yelling the truth

ACitizenErased · 27-06-2021 06:04PM

Tomorrow's the day:
https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1409195517716930569?s=20

PTH2009 · 27-06-2021 06:06PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Tomorrow's the day:
https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1409195517716930569?s=20

Its obvious there going to recommend a delay and the government will accept it

Then when the new date is near its going to be a repeat

No indoor dining (unless a resident in a hotel) in Ireland this summer

Micky 32 · 27-06-2021 06:09PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Its obvious there going to recommend a delay and the government will accept it

Then when the new date is near its going to be a repeat

No indoor dining (unless a resident in a hotel) in Ireland this summer

If i was to stick a finger in the air to see where the wind is blowing from my bet is July 19th along with the opening of EU travel.

0ph0rce0 · 27-06-2021 06:20PM

I'm not saying they will but If they are going to delay it I can't see it just being a week or two.

I'd say they have it in their head now for August and the bank holiday weekend.

Surely it would be better to open it up now and let people get out and about and get the excitement out of their system, meet friends for drinks, dinner etc... rather than delay a few weeks and let everyone go hell for leather over the bank holiday weekend. Plenty going to go out anyway but you'll have a **** load more that weekend just after payday and no work to go to, If that makes sense?

suicide_circus · 27-06-2021 06:29PM

py2006 wrote: »

Looks like Ming was put out by having to queue at Customs in the airport:

https://twitter.com/lukeming/status/1408733146212974594?s=20

There are clear markings for social distancing that are obviously being ignored by grown adults!

Wonder where he was going that couldnt be done on a zoom call

Gael23 · 27-06-2021 06:40PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

If i was to stick a finger in the air to see where the wind is blowing from my bet is July 19th along with the opening of EU travel.

I’d go with that. Otherwise people will just book foreign holidays and govt don’t want that

gozunda · 27-06-2021 06:44PM

zackory wrote: »

Or you could have said"despite rising case numbers the UK are not introducing reduction in having 140000 at the grand prix or pubs full indoors on a Saturday night with live bands"

You mean I could have made something up completely random? Or as per the comment based it on what was actually reported?

The fact is the UK have delayed easing their lockdown / restrictions by four weeks. Afaik no one claimed they've reintroduced previous restrictions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57464097

zackory · 27-06-2021 07:05PM

gozunda wrote: »

You mean I could have made something up completely random? Or as per the comment based it on what was actually reported?

The fact is the UK have delayed easing their lockdown / restrictions by four weeks. Afaik no one claimed they've reintroduced previous restrictions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57464097

They must be really worried though, was it 18000 cases yesterday.

A return to closing pubs must be imminent surely?

Snooker Loopy · 27-06-2021 07:19PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

It's depressing these people are entitled to a vote.

A deeply authoritarian streak is never far from the surface with the self styled "freedom lovers".

Snooker Loopy · 27-06-2021 07:20PM

beaz2018 wrote: »

"when covid is gone" is what a workmate said to me this week. What can you say to that.

You can say he sounds more clued in than you are.

BorneTobyWilde · 27-06-2021 07:23PM

Should delay opening until 19th July

27-06-2021 07:28PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Should delay opening until 19th July

With the vaccines to date any increase due to delta will be slower. There is time to react to any adverse trend without delaying

BorneTobyWilde · 27-06-2021 07:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

With the vaccines to date any increase due to delta will be slower. There is time to react to any adverse trend without delaying

It's not the pensioners who are going to party all night when pubs reopen, it will be those not vaccinated .

Nozebleed · 27-06-2021 07:37PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It's not the pensioners who are going to party all night when pubs reopen, it will be those not vaccinated .

are you sure about that?

Leftwaffe · 27-06-2021 07:37PM

If we delay until the 19th we are in big trouble. You’d imagine cases will increase over the next few weeks due to the Delta variant, they won’t translate to an increase in deaths or hospitalisations but high cases numbers come a review before the 19th and Sir Tony will recommend staying as we are or rolling backwards.

Then it’s August, schools, etc.

km79 · 27-06-2021 07:56PM

Ended up going away with the wife within our county just so we could have a dinner and few drinks indoors
Sitting in restaurant of hotel and It’s really busy with accents from all over the country
Trying to work out how this is deemed safer than sitting inside a local restaurant or cafe ðŸ€·ðŸ»*♂️

And then to compound matters we Had to leave the bar/restaurant after our meal
“Should be seats around 930pm again “
So no pints while watching the match as planned then
Great stuff
Up Ireland . We know better than the rest of Europe

SnuggyBear · 27-06-2021 08:12PM

Open the everything

RoryMac · 27-06-2021 08:21PM

km79 wrote: »

Ended up going away with the wife within our county just so we could have a dinner and few drinks indoors
Sitting in restaurant of hotel and It’s really busy with accents from all over the country
Trying to work out how this is deemed safer than sitting inside a local restaurant or cafe ðŸ€·ðŸ»*♂️

And then to compound matters we Had to leave the bar/restaurant after our meal
“Should be seats around 930pm again “
So no pints while watching the match as planned then
Great stuff
Up Ireland . We know better than the rest of Europe

I've been lucky enough that I was away with work a good bit over the last year and a bit and the hotel's have been great, meal and a few pints in the evening all very relaxed.

But since the hotel's opened to the public it's been a pain, hard to even get a table for dinner and then shifted straight away. It'll be carnage in July if the bars and restaurants don't open as the hotel's will already be booked out and will struggle to get people in for meals.

shockframe · 27-06-2021 08:23PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Should delay opening until 19th July

The last 64 weeks have taught us that the next 2 weeks are crucial.

27-06-2021 08:23PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It's not the pensioners who are going to party all night when pubs reopen, it will be those not vaccinated .

All night party’s in pubs?

FlubberJones · 27-06-2021 08:24PM

A delay for boozer opening isn't going to accomplish much, they may as well get on with it... The absolute priority should be the travel. Get the country open and allow the people to travel

Penfailed · 27-06-2021 08:26PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Its obvious there going to recommend a delay and the government will accept it

Then when the new date is near its going to be a repeat

No indoor dining (unless a resident in a hotel) in Ireland this summer

Does it tire you out or wear you down making up these depressing scenarios? Is it any wonder you post about being anxious!

Richard Hillman · 27-06-2021 08:30PM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

If we delay until the 19th we are in big trouble. You’d imagine cases will increase over the next few weeks due to the Delta variant, they won’t translate to an increase in deaths or hospitalisations but high cases numbers come a review before the 19th and Sir Tony will recommend staying as we are or rolling backwards.

Then it’s August, schools, etc.

Wash rinse repeat of last year. We were in the exact situation last year. Restrictions were due to be lifted come July, then it was put back despite the fact that we were in low double digit numbers for cases. Then when August appeared it was all about getting kids back to school.

The cases will go up when schools go back. And of course, the kids won't be vaccinated by then.

So then with cases creeping up come October and we are waiting around for all of the kids to be double jabbed, we'll be back again to "Save Christmas". Winter will be kicking in, cases will naturally sky rocket and Guess What? Its been a year since the most vulnerable had their first jab. They'll need the "Booster".

So we're back to February/March. Cases in 4 digits.The over 60s will be queued up for their booster jabs. The "variants" will be more varianty. We'll be told, we just have to wait until the vulnerable have had their boosters. Then it will be "oh this new variant", we'll have to wait until all adults have had their booster.

So then we'll be at August 2022. The Angolan Rainforest Variant, 9 zillion times more contagious than the last will be reaping it's way through the world giving people the sniffles and those kids will need their booster jab. We need to get cases down to save the school return from being delayed.

This **** ain't ending folks. Not unless a big **** off is given by the public.

zackory · 27-06-2021 08:32PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Does it tire you out or wear you down making up these depressing scenarios? Is it any wonder you post about being anxious!

Making up scenarios?

16 months of them playing out at this point.

km79 · 27-06-2021 08:38PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Does it tire you out or wear you down making up these depressing scenarios? Is it any wonder you post about being anxious!

I’m tired and worn out with the depressing reality
I’ve supported and adhered to all restrictions but I just can’t fathom the approach taken over the last few months by the govt.
I was months waiting to start building our home this year. All the while costs were spiralling.
What happened in terms of case numbers when construction workers went back to work on one off houses such as ours ?
Nothing .

Aph2016 · 27-06-2021 08:44PM

It's always going to be two more weeks. Restaurants, pubs and cafes need to come together and just re-open, strength in numbers, if it's just one or two places, they'll lose their license when it's due to be renewed, this won't happen if everyone does it. It's criminal what they've had to put up with.

niallo27 · 27-06-2021 08:46PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Does it tire you out or wear you down making up these depressing scenarios? Is it any wonder you post about being anxious!

Well technically summer is over end of July so it's fairly realistic.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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