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F1 2021 Round 8 : Styrian GP

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Zookey123 wrote: »
    Poor George deserved points today.

    Yes, he punches well above his weight and the bad luck strikes again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,248 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    2011 wrote: »
    Hamilton pushing hard now. It’s starting to look a bit more like a 2 stop strategy.

    Short track with traffic everywhere, it'd be harder to catch back up here then it was in Spain or France


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    2011 wrote: »
    Hamilton pushing hard now. It’s starting to look a bit more like a 2 stop strategy.

    Watching his helmet camera channel (with radio Comms). He was asking about his fuel levels to Bono


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Was it this track that was harsh on suspension/tyres one year? They seem to be running the bumpy kerbs very heavily.

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    flazio wrote: »
    Short track with traffic everywhere, it'd be harder to catch back up here then it was in Spain or France

    True but Mercedes may thin its worth a roll of the dice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,248 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    LeClerc lucky not to get a puncture


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    2011 wrote: »
    True but Mercedes may thin its worth a roll of the dice.

    What's the average time lost for a pit stop round here does anyone know? If Hamilton was to pit, he has about 24 seconds gap to Perez


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    Is it getting a bit cloudy in places


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Radar shows it building up to the west but won't hit the track for an hour.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Zookey123


    Praying for rain. Would defo add a bit more spice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Perez pits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,292 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Perez nicks the fastest lap, can he catch Bottas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,248 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Not exactly a classic this one is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So the mercs strategy is to keep going and hope max makes a mistake.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Think next week the tyres are all one step softer.

    Probably needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    So the mercs strategy is to keep going and hop max makes a mistake.

    Not much else they can do, Bottas needs to get the finger out Perez is catching him at 2 seconds a lap nearly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    Perez is flying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,029 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    flazio wrote: »
    Not exactly a classic this one is it?
    It most certainly is not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Not much else they can do, Bottas needs to get the finger out Perez is catching him at 2 seconds a lap nearly.

    True but it’s a very un Mercedes position to be in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    Reckon it's gonna be like this for a while.

    Red Bull is just a much better car this season. Verstappen also not making many mistakes. As a team also not making mnay mistakes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    As usual it will probably start raining half an hour after the race is finished.


  • Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    You know it's a dull race when they're talking about the possibility of rain that even the teams know isn't coming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So kimi has the record using number 7 on a car. A sure sign this race is not a classic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Crofty really shouldn't be using the word dramatic to describe this race


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Feels more like an afternoon wasted than an afternoon invested


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    An undeserved 3rd for Bottas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Red Bull went a few laps too.late on the 2nd stop with Perez


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,029 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    skipper_G wrote: »
    Feels more like an afternoon wasted than an afternoon invested
    I could have painted the front wall and watched it dry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,010 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Very comfortable race for Verstappen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,337 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Not the most entertaining race but they can’t all be exciting over a season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    Jordan 199 wrote: »
    I could have painted the front wall and watched it dry.

    You could have streamed it and I would have watched :pac:


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    skipper_G wrote: »
    Feels more like an afternoon wasted than an afternoon invested

    Agreed.

    But what a drive from Max.
    He must be considered the best driver on the grid now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,009 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    LeClerc was fun at least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    He ruined Galsy's race and they gave him driver of the day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭thefa


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Red Bull went a few laps too.late on the 2nd stop with Perez

    I actually thought they’d leave Perez out and hope his tyre management would set him up for an overtake late on or else pull him in with a few laps to go and have a go at fastest lap then but it’s all hindsight.

    They do seem more proactive in the last few races in making calls and are outgunning merc on the strategy side. Bad pit stop cost them 3rd.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,248 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    MadYaker wrote: »
    He ruined Galsy's race and they gave him driver of the day?

    Don't look at me, I voted for Norris.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    …and now it rains!

    A pity that didn’t happen earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭quokula


    The Red Bull still struggles to match the Merc in Perez’ hands, but Verstappen is just in a class of one. Haven’t really seen these kind of driving performances at the head of the championship since Schumacher was driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Joeface


    Redbull well head . Max is doing his version of Lewis tires only it's his brakes. Little bit dull race . I mean Max half a lap ahead (I know Lewis pitted) but half lap still and then some to Perez and Bottas.

    Good Drives from Norris , Sainz, Stroll and Leclecre needed to pay us all back with some overtakes after clipping Gasly at the start and a chain reaction ruining a few ppls races.

    Poor today we're Vettel , Riccardo (looked good for a bit and then disappeared) ,Ocon .


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    Biggest thing for me was with 2 laps to go and Perez/Bottas battling they decide to show and follow Hamilton pitting for new softs for fastest lap.

    Even the commentary were following the quickly reducing timesheet between Bottas and Perez yet the TV director was still following Lewis, only to cut suddenly to Max at the chequered flag and then the battle for 3rd!

    Nearly as bad as the Stroll cutaway in Monaco!

    I thought it was a decent enough race - didn’t mind the lack of battle at front as it was RB for a change. Some good overtaking, especially LEC despite IMO being lucky for not getting a penalty or more damage for his collision with GAS.

    Great championship this year so far though! Makes every point count!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,248 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Did the stewards even "note" the incident between LeClerc and Gasly? And then clipping Raikkonens wing. Lucky to come out of this without so much as a Black and White Flag.

    Sainz did very well. He's not going to be a willing No.2 if Ferrari get competitive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Joeface


    flazio wrote: »
    Did the stewards even "note" the incident between LeClerc and Gasly? And then clipping Raikkonens wing. Lucky to come out of this without so much as a Black and White Flag.

    Sainz did very well. He's not going to be a willing No.2 if Ferrari get competitive.

    They did note it , no further action , racing incident.


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    flazio wrote: »
    Did the stewards even "note" the incident between LeClerc and Gasly? And then clipping Raikkonens wing. Lucky to come out of this without so much as a Black and White Flag.

    Sainz did very well. He's not going to be a willing No.2 if Ferrari get competitive.

    Yes, within a lap there was a note saying “no investigation necessary for turn 3 incident”. However, and the commentators even said it, the incident that caused it all happened well before turn 3.

    Agree re Sainz. Ferrari have 2 very capable and ambitious drivers so can see some nervy internal battles as the season goes on!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Joeface wrote: »
    Redbull well head . Max is doing his version of Lewis tires only it's his brakes. Little bit dull race . I mean Max half a lap ahead (I know Lewis pitted) but half lap still and then some to Perez and Bottas.

    Good Drives from Norris , Sainz, Stroll and Leclecre needed to pay us all back with some overtakes after clipping Gasly at the start and a chain reaction ruining a few ppls races.

    Poor today we're Vettel , Riccardo (looked good for a bit and then disappeared) ,Ocon .

    Danny Ric spent 2 straights fixing a power issue. Think next week will determine how his season is going to go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭quokula


    Yeah it was strange to see Leclerc get driver of the day when Sainz had a better race and honestly he was lucky not to get a penalty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭quokula


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Danny Ric spent 2 straights fixing a power issue. Think next week will determine how his season is going to go

    Lando could have had the same issue and still finished fifth though because losing a couple of seconds wouldn’t have lost any places, except to Bottas and Sergio. It’s a convenient excuse but the problem was that he was in the midfield where a loss like that comes at a huge cost.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    quokula wrote: »
    Lando could have had the same issue and still finished fifth though because losing a couple of seconds wouldn’t have lost any places, except to Bottas and Sergio. It’s a convenient excuse but the problem was that he was in the midfield where a loss like that comes at a huge cost.

    He lost way more then a few seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Harika


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    He lost way more then a few seconds.

    Loosing the seconds is different from loosing positions. He was behind Alonso when it happened.


    Big nothing burger train race, disappointment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Joeface


    He had more pace in his car than others , that showed at the start. after his issue I am not sure where it went , even on fresh rubber he didn't make the same impact .

    DRS train didn't help maybe it should be reduced to 0.5sec on tracks like this it does . It just allows people to Survive way longer in the train . Leclecre made short work of it really .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Ironically enough, Paul Ricard last week gave us a better race than today's. The only thing to keep it interesting was the scenery and watching the clouds to see if it would rain.

    Fair play to Max this weekend and indeed the last few too. He really has the (red) bull by the horns and Lewis knows he's in a battle this year. Someone said an undeserved 3rd for Bottas. Not sure why, seeing as he outqualified Lewis again and but for his moment in the pits could have taken 2nd from Lewis. But of course, Bottas will never get any credit from some here.

    Leclerc did do well after messing up in the first lap, but I don't think he was at fault for clipping Kimi. For me, Kimi turned left in behind him coming to the braking zone and clipped Leclerc's rear.

    Tough luck on Gasly. He must have been fuming. Ricciardo is really struggling, and even Zac Brown admitted on Sky before the race that the team is dissapointed with his progress and inability to get to grips yet.

    We need that rain next week.


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