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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • #8612
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    Graham wrote: »
    You mean an accurate one?

    If you think it's inaccurate show us the right one please.


  • #8613
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Someone on radio just now made the point that if we can’t open up now, in the middle of summer, with numbers vaccinated rising on a daily basis, then .... when?


  • #8614
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Someone on radio just now made the point that if we can’t open up now, in the middle of summer, with numbers vaccinated rising on a daily basis, then .... when?

    Exactly. After 6 months what will change in 2 or 3 weeks time?


  • #8615
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Someone on radio just now made the point that if we can’t open up now, in the middle of summer, with numbers vaccinated rising on a daily basis, then .... when?

    Yep listening to that myself. Commentator on the line a few minutes asking very valid questions about what delaying is really going to achieve in 2 weeks


  • #8616
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    zackory wrote: »
    If you think it's inaccurate show us the right one please.

    It's an interesting approach Zackory.

    It's ok to share any old inaccurate information if you can't get your hands on the accurate stuff.

    Got it.


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  • #8617
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    what delaying is really going to achieve in 2 weeks

    600,000 - 700,000 vaccinations would be my guess.

    Not saying a delay is necessary without seeing the data but there's no sense pretending nothing would be achieved.


  • #8618
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    zackory wrote: »
    Have you a better one?

    There isn’t one. Austria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Germany, Hungary, Latvia and Lithuania all have restricted dining to people who test on the spot (some allow vaccinated) while North Macedonia has completely shut down dining.
    It’s disingenuous to suggest the rest of Europe besides us has indoor dining as normal.


  • #8619
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    niallo27 wrote: »
    So two people you know got covid, what exactly is the point you are trying to make.

    What I am finding frustrating is that people on this thread are making out that there is no risk and that there are no long term consequences. I'm fine with people saying 'I want to go to into the packed pub on Saturday' but don't turn around and say that just because the mortality rate is low that everything is grand and that it is wise to go to the pub. Just because you don't know anyone personally who has suffered. If we lived our life with blinkers on like that we would have no empathy.


  • #8620
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    Graham wrote: »
    It's an interesting approach Zackory.

    It's ok to share any old inaccurate information if you can't get your hands on the accurate stuff.

    Got it.

    How is it inaccurate?

    Back up your claims please.

    Quit deflecting.


  • #8621
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    204235201_3653879651380411_2112952193237960430_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=q9eV7zVC6f8AX_qNDQf&_nc_ht=scontent-dub4-1.xx&oh=fd9ff065c687cbb3792d0e1fa86d0623&oe=60DC43FD

    What a joke of a country we are.


    Anyone defending our response to Covid should be ashamed of themselves.

    One thing is for certain, i bet it does not look like that in 6 weeks time.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • #8622
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,136 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    brickster69 wrote: »
    One thing is for certain, i bet it does not look like that in 6 weeks time.

    Yoi think we will be open in 6 weeks, borderline.


  • #8623
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I’m all for reopening but we have to be honest about sources - this map is completely fake and incorrect.

    This might be a bit more accurate

    https://twitter.com/cosainireland/status/1408904041141317632?s=19


  • #8624
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    brickster69 wrote: »
    One thing is for certain, i bet it does not look like that in 6 weeks time.

    Yeah we will be open and they will all be back in lockdown.

    We will be laughing at them.

    Tony will be a legend.


  • #8625
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Yoi think we will be open in 6 weeks, borderline.

    Who knows but there will be more red for certain.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #8626
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Who knows but there will be more red for certain.

    Absolutely. They are all doing it wrong.

    We are the only country in the world doing it right.


  • #8627
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    giveitholly wrote: »
    This might be a bit more accurate

    https://twitter.com/cosainireland/status/1408904041141317632?s=19

    Still incorrect about some countries. Lists Germany as open for example. Germany is very much restricted with strict entry requirements to dine indoors.


  • #8628
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I’m all for reopening but we have to be
    honest about sources - this map is completely fake and incorrect.

    A lot of incorrect information is floating around in general.

    I stumbled upon an online travel guide to Europe that was telling people that nightclubs are open in Ireland.


  • #8629
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    zackory wrote: »
    What's long covid?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115196250

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/24/more-than-2m-adults-in-england-have-had-long-covid-for-over-12-weeks-study?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


  • #8630
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Still incorrect about some countries. Lists Germany as open for example. Germany is very much restricted with strict entry requirements to dine indoors.

    I’m sorry but it is not strict. They ask you a question on entry similar to contact tracing here . Vast majority of places just pay lip service , it’s not like a vaccine cert

    And the map is illustrating where indoor dining is available not if it is restricted


  • #8631
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    What I am finding frustrating is that people on this thread are making out that there is no risk and that there are no long term consequences. I'm fine with people saying 'I want to go to into the packed pub on Saturday' but don't turn around and say that just because the mortality rate is low that everything is grand and that it is wise to go to the pub. Just because you don't know anyone personally who has suffered. If we lived our life with blinkers on like that we would have no empathy.

    I mean ffs every year prior to 2020 people suffered long term effects from various viral illnesses, and they have since humans have been on this planet. Do people not realise this?


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  • #8632
    stargazer 68
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Graham wrote: »
    600,000 - 700,000 vaccinations would be my guess.

    Not saying a delay is necessary without seeing the data but there's no sense pretending nothing would be achieved.

    And then what? Maybe another 2 weeks after that to vaccinate more. Oh maybe another 2 weeks and it goes on.


  • #8633
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,136 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Who knows but there will be more red for certain.

    Still in summer, most of Europe vaccinated and more lockdowns you think. Do you think the vaccines won't work


  • #8634
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I mean ffs every year prior to 2020 people suffered long term effects from various viral illnesses, and they have since humans have been on this planet. Do people not realise this?

    I mean ffs....

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/24/more-than-2m-adults-in-england-have-had-long-covid-for-over-12-weeks-study?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


  • #8635
    beaz2018
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭beaz2018


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Still incorrect about some countries. Lists Germany as open for example. Germany is very much restricted with strict entry requirements to dine indoors.

    are they open or not?


  • #8636
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115196250

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/24/more-than-2m-adults-in-england-have-had-long-covid-for-over-12-weeks-study?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    Have you a link to Tony holohans latest analysis of this "long covid" claim you are making please?

    A randomer from boards.ie 8 months ago just doesn't cut it.


  • #8637
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    zackory wrote: »
    Yeah we will be open and they will all be back in lockdown.

    We will be laughing at them.

    Tony will be a legend.

    No doubt a final wave of infection in Europe is inevitable. Will it have an impact greater than a normal flu or cold ? No. Why? As majority vaccinated to some degree

    People seem to forget the vaccine bit!


  • #8638
    zackory
    Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭zackory


    beaz2018 wrote: »
    are they open or not?

    Open.

    Bit like our strict conditions for hotels. Enforced very strictly by Facebook warriors.


  • #8639
    bloopy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭bloopy


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Still incorrect about some countries. Lists Germany as open for example. Germany is very much restricted with strict entry requirements to dine indoors.

    But they are open.


  • #8640
    Multipass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I mean ffs every year prior to 2020 people suffered long term effects from various viral illnesses, and they have since humans have been on this planet. Do people not realise this?

    I guess I had long chickenpox, everyone should have stayed home to keep me safe!


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  • #8641
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Multipass wrote: »
    I guess I had long chickenpox, everyone should have stayed home to keep me safe!

    Tis' but a scratch.


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