Charging etiquette

tDw6u1bj · 25-06-2021 05:17PM

Kramer wrote: »

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7. some want hotels to invest in upgraded grid connections with a dedicated 3kW outlet for each & every parking space

If I was a hotel owner reading this thread I'd be looking at EV owners' as a monumental headache & just saying "no, no charging facilities at this hotel, sorry".

Entitlement culture in some regards I guess .

No.7 is what will happen eventually (over the course of the next few decades).

I'm sure many hotel/business owners do and will think that, but they'll turn around one day realising it's become a basic requirement and they haven't made plans. I think it's similar to places who resisted having card machines* for so long and don't understand when people are shocked they don't have one (and probably don't even realise they're being avoided because of it).

IMO your points about "entitlement culture" contradicts your other points. The less entitled thing to do is to make an effort to be accommodating to others.

*Excluding the places which are obviously just a front.

tDw6u1bj · 25-06-2021 05:18PM

This thread has been a really interesting way of showing how different people have different ideas of how to function in society.

kanuseeme · 25-06-2021 05:24PM

I am glad it was 2 Telsa's and not 2 phev's . Some sh1tstorm then.

cannco253 · 25-06-2021 06:56PM

Maybe it’s not until you’re in the situation yourself, you don’t really know how you’ll react. This summer will no doubt throw up a few curveballs for people and might force the issue a bit.

All fair points, nobody is forcing hotels to do anything but if they advertise charging they should understand what they’re getting into.

They were quick enough to introduce a booking system for indoor swimming pools so why not for chargers?

jusmeig · 25-06-2021 07:00PM

I was going to triumphantly report free parking and charging for EV owners in Connemara National Park...

Where does this sit on the etiquette scales?

mfceiling · 25-06-2021 07:05PM

jusmeig wrote: »

I was going to triumphantly report free parking and charging for EV owners in Connemara National Park...

https://i.ibb.co/L1sX0SV/IMG-20210625-WA0007.jpg

Where does this sit on the etiquette scales?

I presume the Volvo isn't electric?

At what point do you see a huge green space with "electric vehicle only" and think "ah this is grand for me"?

jusmeig · 25-06-2021 07:08PM

mfceiling wrote: »

I presume the Volvo isn't electric?

At what point do you see a huge green space with "electric vehicle only" and think "ah this is grand for me"?

Nah big diesel SUV yoke, not plugged in either way!

25-06-2021 07:14PM

mfceiling wrote: »

I presume the Volvo isn't electric?

At what point do you see a huge green space with "electric vehicle only" and think "ah this is grand for me"?

You honestly think the driver didn't know that's a EV charging bay, do you think for one moment they actually care ? even if you confronted them, which I advise not to, they'd do it again and again.

mfceiling · 25-06-2021 07:38PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You honestly think the driver didn't know that's a EV charging bay, do you think for one moment they actually care ? even if you confronted them, which I advise not to, they'd do it again and again.

That's what I mean. Like the huge green painted block with large white writing isn't enough.
I'm not comparing it to parking in a disabled spot but it's the same level of not caring.

AndyBoBandy · 25-06-2021 07:41PM

mfceiling wrote: »

I'm not comparing it to parking in a disabled spot but it's the same level of not caring.

It’s worse.

Though a disabled person could park somewhere else (despite being extremely inconvenient for them), an EV driver can’t charge in any other spot…..

jusmeig · 25-06-2021 07:41PM

mfceiling wrote: »

That's what I mean. Like the huge green painted block with large white writing isn't enough.
I'm not comparing it to parking in a disabled spot but it's the same level of not caring.

Clamping will change the behavior.

AndyBoBandy · 25-06-2021 07:43PM

jusmeig wrote: »

I was going to triumphantly report free parking and charging for EV owners in Connemara National Park...

Where does this sit on the etiquette scales?

Time to start printing up ‘education notices’ and applying them to these sort of drivers windscreens……

Remember it’s windy out there, so best to use a whole tube of superglu to ensure the ‘education notice’ doesn’t blow away.

antfin · 25-06-2021 07:45PM

mfceiling wrote: »

I presume the Volvo isn't electric?

At what point do you see a huge green space with "electric vehicle only" and think "ah this is grand for me"?

XC90 T8 is a PHEV

AndyBoBandy · 25-06-2021 07:46PM

antfin wrote: »

XC90 T8 is a PHEV

Irrelevant what it is if it’s not plugged in.
The space is ICE’d.

This goes back to the lack of education whereby people believe they are entitled to park in one of these spaces simply by virtue of their car having a plug…. Regardless if they actually plug in or not….

Like the Prius plug in that’s always parked in a spot at my location Tesco despite never being plugged in….

antfin · 25-06-2021 07:47PM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Irrelevant what it is if it’s not plugged in.
The space is ICE’d.

Just answering the question of whether it's electric or not! Sorry if I offended.

AndyBoBandy · 25-06-2021 07:49PM

antfin wrote: »

Just answering the question of whether it's electric or not! Sorry if I offended.

No offence at all other than the offence caused by the Volvo…

If it was plugged in, it’d be absolutely entitled to be there.

kanuseeme · 25-06-2021 07:49PM

Its a plug in hybrid seemingly not plugged in lol.

jusmeig · 25-06-2021 07:56PM

kanuseeme wrote: »

Its a plug in hybrid seemingly not plugged in lol.

I'm even more outraged now

Vestiapx · 25-06-2021 08:01PM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

No offence at all other than the offence caused by the Volvo…

If it was plugged in, it’d be absolutely entitled to be there.

What exactly is the difference between not charging and plugged in and not charging and not plugged in? If they plugged in and didn't charge would it be ok to park there? Why is the Tesla plate deleted but the Volvo one not deleted.

AndyBoBandy · 25-06-2021 08:07PM

Vestiapx wrote: »

What exactly is the difference between not charging and plugged in and not charging and not plugged in? If they plugged in and didn't charge would it be ok to park there? Why is the Tesla plate deleted but the Volvo one not deleted.

Well you’d assume if it was plugged in and not charging, it was most likely charging at one point when it was plugged in, so perhaps a charge has finished and the owner has not yet returned (doubtful though with a PHEV as they charge fairly slowly)

As for the Tesla plate being covered, I presume the owner doesn’t want to publish their reg plate on a public forum…. But is happy to publish/shame that of an inconsiderate driver.

Vestiapx · 25-06-2021 08:10PM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Well you’d assume if it was plugged in and not charging, it was most likely charging at one point when it was plugged in, so perhaps a charge has finished and the owner has not yet returned (doubtful though with a PHEV as they charge fairly slowly)

As for the Tesla plate being covered, I presume the owner doesn’t want to publish their reg plate on a public forum….

So the car was charging which it's entitled to and the Tesla owner thinks it's ok to post other people's plates but not there own on boards. I would have thought that ev drivers would be happier to work together than this thread shows I'm reminded of the hell is feeding yourself and heaven is feeding other parable.

kanuseeme · 25-06-2021 08:12PM

Some EV drivers plug in and dial down the charge speed to get cheap parking.

liamog · 25-06-2021 08:23PM

Vestiapx wrote: »

So the car was charging which it's entitled to

If you can make the effort to remove your charging cable, you can make the effort to move your car.

25-06-2021 08:34PM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

It’s worse.

Though a disabled person could park somewhere else (despite being extremely inconvenient for them), an EV driver can’t charge in any other spot…..

In fairness the disabled sticker is often abused, you'd be surprised how easy it is to get a disabled sticker on your car and how many family members drive the car with the disabled sticker just to park in the disabled bays.

25-06-2021 08:35PM

Vestiapx wrote: »

So the car was charging which it's entitled to and the Tesla owner thinks it's ok to post other people's plates but not there own on boards. I would have thought that ev drivers would be happier to work together than this thread shows I'm reminded of the hell is feeding yourself and heaven is feeding other parable.

Is there some legal issue posting cars with number plates ?

jusmeig · 25-06-2021 09:23PM

Vestiapx wrote: »

So the car was charging which it's entitled to and the Tesla owner thinks it's ok to post other people's plates but not there own on boards. I would have thought that ev drivers would be happier to work together than this thread shows I'm reminded of the hell is feeding yourself and heaven is feeding other parable.

That's it pal, he/she was not charging. It's not EV parking it's EV charging, that's why the charger is there.

Fils · 25-06-2021 09:29PM

It’s becoming a good opportunity to chat up women. A few years ago Dunnes on a Friday was the place but this is better.

blackbox · 25-06-2021 09:37PM

All this stress over charging etiquette would kind of put me off having an electric car.

AndyBoBandy · 25-06-2021 09:55PM

blackbox wrote: »

All this stress over charging etiquette would kind of put me off having an electric car.

Don’t worry, it doesn’t happen in reality.

In 32,400km of EV driving, I’ve never been in a situation where I was stuck for a charge because someone blocked a charger….

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