Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

whocares45 · 24-06-2021 12:11AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Lie, deny, insult, the pattern is complete.

:rolleyes: So are you saying this particular thread hasnt shown certain folk are ok with the restrictions and sticking up for dr tony etc? Off the top of my head, gozunda is a firm believer. Raind is another one. Obviously yourself too. Thats 3 folk i have named. Are you going to deny the cult of lockdown that exists on this thread, eh?

And why you or anyone would want these restrictions is what i cant get my head around? Fair enough, last winter. But we now have the most vulnerable vaccinated, we are in the middle of summer and yet we can barely get a few hundred in croke park at the moment.
Are you an 85 yr old with diabetes maybe? Probably not.
You cant be that worried about the general sick population surely?
Whats the deal?
I need to understand this.

Sobit1964 · 24-06-2021 12:12AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Except I never actually said that to you?

Easy to "debunk" me if you invent what I say......

Jesus man, give it a break - "but you can still go on" is an obvious implied authority grab.

Im not sure anyone including myself is buying your guff when you post a reply so often, and its *painfully* obvious you just made a yet another failed and frankly silly and juvenile 'gotcha' post.

For the interests of the thread, can we move on - I wont be replying to anymore posts from you on this specific subject.

hynesie08 · 24-06-2021 12:16AM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

Jesus man, give it a break - "bbut you can still go on" is an obvious implied authority grab.

Im not sure anyone including myself is buying your guff when you post a reply so often, and its *painfully* obvious you just made a yet another failed and frankly silly and juvenile 'gotcha' post.

For the interests of the thread, can we move on - I wont be replying to anymore posts from you on this specific subject.

Yeah, never said that.

Lie, deny insult..

hynesie08 · 24-06-2021 12:18AM

whocares45 wrote: »

:rolleyes: So are you saying this particular thread hasnt shown certain folk are ok with the restrictions and sticking up for dr tony etc? Off the top of my head, gozunda is a firm believer. Raind is another one. Obviously yourself too. Thats 3 folk i have named. Are you going to deny the cult of lockdown that exists on this thread, eh?

And why you or anyone would want these restrictions is what i cant get my head around? Fair enough, last winter. But we now have the most vulnerable vaccinated, we are in the middle of summer and yet we can barely get a few hundred in croke park at the moment.
Are you an 85 yr old with diabetes maybe? Probably not.
You cant be that worried about the general sick population surely?
Whats the deal?
I need to understand this.

I'm a government shill who's spent all day arguing we're reopening on the 5th........

Interesting

mightyreds · 24-06-2021 12:18AM

Was out tonight at a match and went back for a few outdoor pints after, can say everyone I talked to has turned on the kite flying by the government in the last couple of days, now my sample size is very small maybe chatted to 50 people but it's refreshing to get out and chat to real people outside of the small hive mind here trying to force there opinion on everyone.

Sobit1964 · 24-06-2021 12:21AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Yeah, never said that.

Lie, deny insult..

Well done with the stealthy delete. I guess you need to control 'information' to make a point.

Welcome to ignore.

hynesie08 · 24-06-2021 12:23AM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

Well done with the stealthy delete. I guess you need to control 'information' to make a point.

Welcome to ignore.

Ha, invents something I didn't say and accuses me of a ninja edit........... Pathetic.

whocares45 · 24-06-2021 12:23AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

I'm a government shill who's spent all day arguing we're reopening on the 5th........

Interesting

Except you would probably be delighted when tony tells us the pubs arent opening on the 5th. So yes, a government employee.

hynesie08 · 24-06-2021 12:24AM

whocares45 wrote: »

Except you would probably be delighted when tony tells us the pubs arent opening on the 5th. So yes, a government employee.

Lie, deny, insult, lads, ye aren't even trying.

gozunda · 24-06-2021 12:32AM

whocares45 wrote: »

:rolleyes: So are you saying this particular thread hasnt shown certain folk are ok with the restrictions and sticking up for dr tony etc? Off the top of my head, gozunda is a firm believer. Raind is another one. Obviously yourself too. Thats 3 folk i have named. Are you going to deny the cult of lockdown that exists on this thread, eh?
And why you or anyone would want these restrictions is what i cant get my head around? Fair enough, last winter. But we now have the most vulnerable vaccinated, we are in the middle of summer and yet we can barely get a few hundred in croke park at the moment.
Are you an 85 yr old with diabetes maybe? Probably not.You cant be that worried about the general sick population surely?Whats the deal?I need to understand this.

Since when has boards discussion descended to the wholescale abuse of those posters you happen to disagree with?

99% of references in this thread to Tony et al are in reply to those blaming him for the War, Famine and the Plague itself. Regardless whether you like him or don't - the bizarre hate fest is a ever repeating parody of itself at this stage.

And guess what- no one likes restrictions btw.
But did you not hear the good news? The last lockdown ended on the 12th of April. Do you want to go out and have a pint or 12 to celebrate? Because more good news - you can.

Whatsisname · 24-06-2021 12:37AM

Timmyr wrote: »

Got a source on this? I live in NZ and I dont recall every seeing anyone named and shamed, and definitely not seen faces in the paper

Apologies, there was no pictures of him. It was back in February so I’ve misremembered it and rechecked the source again to confirm. I’ve edited my initial post.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300240910/covid19-everything-we-know-about-new-community-case-m-in-auckland

Sobit1964 · 24-06-2021 12:38AM

gozunda wrote: »

Since when has boards discussion descended to the wholescale abuse of those posters you happen to disagree with?

99% of references in this thread to Tony et al are in reply to those blaming him for the War, Famine and the Plague itself. Regardless whether you like him or don't - the bizarre hate fest is a ever repeating parody of itself at this stage.

And guess what- no one likes restrictions btw.
But did you not hear the good news? The last lockdown ended on the 12th of April. Do you want to go out and have a pint or 12 to celebrate? Because more good news - you can.

Oh wow... let me have a go.

Since when has boards discussion descended to the wholescale abuse of those posters you happen to disagree with?

Have you conscientiously verified that this isn't the case against those who might disagree with you?

99% of references in this thread to Tony et al are in reply to those blaming him for the War, Famine and the Plague itself.

I checked two pages, and it seems no one blames him for the famine, war, or plague.

But did you not hear the good news? The last lockdown ended on the 12th of April.

Perhaps you didnt get the memo - lockdown implies *any* change to normality.

Ten of Swords · 24-06-2021 01:31AM

Sobit1964 and Hynesie08 drop your back and forth that's been going on over the last couple of hours and let's move the thread along please

Micky 32 · 24-06-2021 02:54AM

So, what are the chances of people being allowed to travel around europe by the time September comes?

hynesie08 · 24-06-2021 07:22AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

So, what are the chances of people being allowed to travel around europe by the time September comes?

Pretty much nailed on I'd say, possible need for a PCR test on return though.

Lumen · 24-06-2021 07:32AM

Sobit1964 wrote: »

Perhaps you didnt get the memo - lockdown implies *any* change to normality.

That's a mildly interesting point. The WHO says:

Large scale physical distancing measures and movement restrictions, often referred to as ‘lockdowns’

Source: https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19

I had thought that lockdowns referred purely to movement restrictions within the country (at most stay-in-your-county) but I guess our current laws against leaving the country also count.

But if you count physical distancing measures then surely many countries are still in "lockdown", because even minimum spacing of tables at restaurants would count.

Drifter50 · 24-06-2021 08:22AM

Derby Day at the Curragh on Saturday. The 2nd year I can't go in my memory. Watching soccer at the euros this week and packed stadiums but we are only allowed 1000 spectators.
Madness, an outdoor event scattered over a large rural area, what harm really. Anyway tickets sold out in 10 mins. We managed to get 1 in the house so the 4 of us tossed a coin for the winner and the wife won
Another day, get some cans watch TV, whatever. Sick of this

VinLieger · 24-06-2021 08:23AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Lie, deny, insult, lads, ye aren't even trying.

I think you've gotten confused with ISAGs playbook

PalLimerick · 24-06-2021 08:31AM

Dickie10 wrote: »

yeah very scary tbh that a politican with nothing to lose and everything to gain wouldnt call out NYPHET and TONY , its like shooting fish in a barrell. stuff like this really opens the door to a lunatic like an Irish Trump.

Or an incompetent @$$hole like Biden.

KanyeSouthEast · 24-06-2021 09:01AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Pretty much nailed on I'd say, possible need for a PCR test on return though.

PCR for vaccinated people?

pc7 · 24-06-2021 09:05AM

Have the radio on in the background and the kites seem to have been grounded in relation to not opening the 5th? Listening to Newstalk, has RTE toned it down?

FlubberJones · 24-06-2021 09:07AM

Just reading the mounting doom and gloom regarding the "variants"... in honesty aren't we just going to have to live with covid at some stage. Rolling lockdown extensions, limited travel, limited socializing, and then actual lockdowns.

Where is the ceiling to all this?

copeyhagen · 24-06-2021 09:08AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Pretty much nailed on I'd say, possible need for a PCR test on return though.

or come back through belfast

MrMiyagi12345 · 24-06-2021 09:10AM

pc7 wrote: »

Have the radio on in the background and the kites seem to have been grounded in relation to not opening the 5th? Listening to Newstalk, has RTE toned it down?

No. Briefly caught the end of Morning Ireland there. Had some NPHET shill on, Mary Xavier. According to her "the vast majority of the population wouldn't mind putting opening up back another 3 weeks not to let the health service go under the pressure it was under in January"

Poor Alexa nearly got thrown out the window. They are lying, deceitful snakes.

pc7 · 24-06-2021 09:12AM

Thanks MrM, I'll stick on a podcast so, can't be listening to that sh1te anymore.

mulbot · 24-06-2021 09:22AM

Drifter50 wrote: »

Derby Day at the Curragh on Saturday. The 2nd year I can't go in my memory. Watching soccer at the euros this week and packed stadiums but we are only allowed 1000 spectators.
Madness, an outdoor event scattered over a large rural area, what harm really. Anyway tickets sold out in 10 mins. We managed to get 1 in the house so the 4 of us tossed a coin for the winner and the wife won
Another day, get some cans watch TV, whatever. Sick of this

It's bullh1t. I'm away at the minute, country im in has no mask mandate, everything fully open, events, games, etc. Life is more or less normal here, nobody doing cartwheels away from you if you get close in a shop etc. What's goin on in Ireland is utterly disgusting, disgraceful and shouldn't be tolerated any longer-I'd like to add, no mention here of variants etc.

facehugger99 · 24-06-2021 09:35AM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

Has anyone thought about where this all actually ends? Any theories? We’re years away aren’t we. Other countries maybe not but we are.

It ends when the Irish people eventually get exercised enough to demand action from their elected representatives - something which they have shown no sign of doing over the last 15 months

The Government have access to cheap credit and a bunch of single-issue, over-cautious zealots to hide behind at the moment and most Irish people are happy living in their little bubble, working from home or drawing the PUP.

The fact that we have become the most indebted nation in Europe has raised barely a murmur. The 10's of billions that have been borrowed to avoid making decisions and to allow Ministers to kick cans down the road will bite every taxpayer in this country over the next few years, maybe even the next few decades. Most people are just too fcuking dumb to see it though.

A perfect storm is brewing. The taxation from our FDI sector which kept us afloat during the last recession is under threat. We have destroyed our indigenous business, tourism and hospitality sectors. Inflation is beginning to rear it's head and we are uniquely vulnerable to any raising of interest rates - anyone who thinks we will be paying back out debt, at the current historically low rates, in a few years time, is an economic moron.

The youth of this country have been totally disenfranchised. Their education, jobs, travel opportunities, sporting and social outlets sacrificed so some social-media hysteria merchants can be placated. Their ability to access affordable housing has been set back years. When the youth of a country are treated like this they invariable turn to radical parties and politicians for solutions - we have no shortage of those in Ireland and if things seem bleak now let's see what the landscape looks like when SF and the rest of the Marxists get their hands on the levers of power in the next election.

Watching this unfold has been horrifying and depressing in equal measure. This is a country I wanted my kids to be able to build a life in. To see it being flushed down the drain over a 'pandemic' that mostly kills people above the age of life expectancy is a joke - just not a very funny one.

gozunda · 24-06-2021 09:44AM

Lumen wrote: »

That's a mildly interesting point. The WHO says:

Source: https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19

I had thought that lockdowns referred purely to movement restrictions within the country (at most stay-in-your-county) but I guess our current laws against leaving the country also count.

But if you count physical distancing measures then surely many countries are still in "lockdown", because even minimum spacing of tables at restaurants would count.

Tbh - I think the previous comment is closer to the G'OD school of logic than anything else. Seems to be a good bit of that going around atm. I wouldn't bother.

Hurrache · 24-06-2021 09:45AM

pc7 wrote: »

Have the radio on in the background and the kites seem to have been grounded in relation to not opening the 5th? Listening to Newstalk, has RTE toned it down?

Can't tone something down that wasn't being hyped in the first place. Questions being asked and discussed does not hype make.

This thread is both increasingly funny and sad. It's a virtual example of mass hysteria, people hyping themselves and others up over something that they think may happen, not things that are actually happening. Calls for public revolt and disorder over something they're imagining.

It's like that mad bloke who sits near your in a bus audibly arguing imagined scenarios in his head, you might get a bit of entertainment out of it, but you're aware that any sensible input will just drive them madder.

seamus · 24-06-2021 09:51AM

Mad to see how far off the deep end some people have gone. This time last year the same people were claiming that vaccines were years away and we needed to open up and just give in because we can't stay locked down forever.

Nightclubs and indoor gigs will be open before the end of the year. They may have some element of restricted head counts, but as always in Ireland, this will slowly be ignored more and more until everyone forgets that it even exists.

The only real vestiges of Covid in Ireland in 2022 will be getting your cert for foreign travel and cranks on the radio talking about vaccinating children. And the odd headline about another new variant in some faraway land.

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