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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Hope they will air ‘Leave it to Mrs O Brien’ soon…….

    Excellent production….

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,838 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    RTÉ once again with their finger on the pulse showing the England v Czech Republic game on RTÉ2 which is essentially a dead rubber game as both are qualified for the last 16, as opposed to showing the Scotland v Croatia game, which is basically winner qualify's for the 2nd round, loser goes home......

    Yes they are showing it on RTÉ News Now, but that means no HD, and watching in fuzzy vision...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭political analyst


    RTÉ once again with their finger on the pulse showing the England v Czech Republic game on RTÉ2 which is essentially a dead rubber game as both are qualified for the last 16, as opposed to showing the Scotland v Croatia game, which is basically winner qualify's for the 2nd round, loser goes home......

    Yes they are showing it on RTÉ News Now, but that means no HD, and watching in fuzzy vision...

    A bit melodramatic, don't you think?! Colour TV is colour TV, whether it's SD or HD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    A bit melodramatic, don't you think?! Colour TV is colour TV, whether it's SD or HD.

    The RTÉ News channels version of SD is not even SD. I'd normally say you'd have to be very fussy to see the difference but RTÉ News is possibly the worst quality of SD. (Not sure what it is like on Sky or Virgin Media).

    I often wonder why RTÉ sold the 2016 rights to TV3. Was purely to help out an ailing friend or to recoup some money. I think it was to save TV3 from UTV Ireland more so than anything else. Since then RTÉ have failed to share sports rights with any broadcaster for the last WC or this years Euros. Surely Virgin Media with its sports channels might have been interested in some of the Euros even the second choice clashing matches.

    and then this year to put the clashing matches on a channel that doesn't carry advertising and that is only available in FUZZYVISION


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    The RTÉ News channels version of SD is not even SD. I'd normally say you'd have to be very fussy to see the difference but RTÉ News is possibly the worst quality of SD. (Not sure what it is like on Sky or Virgin Media).

    I often wonder why RTÉ sold the 2016 rights to TV3. Was purely to help out an ailing friend or to recoup some money. I think it was to save TV3 from UTV Ireland more so than anything else. Since then RTÉ have failed to share sports rights with any broadcaster for the last WC or this years Euros. Surely Virgin Media with its sports channels might have been interested in some of the Euros even the second choice clashing matches.

    and then this year to put the clashing matches on a channel that doesn't carry advertising and that is only available in FUZZYVISION

    Presumably, the match in which England was playing was shown on RTÉ 2 because it was much more prominent than the match in which Scotland was playing - given that the English team is the most prominent in the British Isles - and so RTÉ believed it would attract a greater number of viewers. The Scottish team's defeat vindicates RTÉ's decision.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Presumably, the match in which England was playing was shown on RTÉ 2 because it was much more prominent than the match in which Scotland was playing - given that the English team is the most prominent in the British Isles - and so RTÉ believed it would attract a greater number of viewers. The Scottish team's defeat vindicates RTÉ's decision.

    Not really as the poster pointed out England had already qualified, it was a match to win for our celtic brothers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    So RTÉ's annual report into commissing has been released.

    As we knew they missed their target by 3.5 million or so, which will be carried over to next year.

    Drama and Comedy consisted of the following programmes: -
    Comedy - Non-scripted
    The Tommy Teirnan Show
    Clear History
    Comedy - Scripted
    Callahan Kicks the Year (Did this air in 2019?)
    Drama
    Kin (to be shown if we are lucky this season)
    North Sea Connection (a co-pro commissioned in sweden and given funding by the BAI before RTÉ got involved, not yet broadcast)

    What do you do when your the head of Drama at RTÉ.... ask if you can take on scripted comedy.... what do you do when your head of drama and scripted comedy .... asked if you can take on non-scripted comedy .... what do you do if none of your drama productions aired in 2020 ... a sure stick them in until you find something to tack on to your portfiolio of nothing.

    I point out that the two drama's have yet to be broadcast because generally when a show is commissioned/produced in one year but not broadcast until the following year it is considered part of the following years budget, yet some how these 2 drama haven't been broadcast but get special treatment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    Elmo wrote: »
    So RTÉ's annual report into commissing has been released.

    As we knew they missed their target by 3.5 million or so, which will be carried over to next year.

    Drama and Comedy consisted of the following programmes: -
    Comedy - Non-scripted
    The Tommy Teirnan Show
    Clear History
    Comedy - Scripted
    Callahan Kicks the Year (Did this air in 2019?)
    Drama
    Kin (to be shown if we are lucky this season)
    North Sea Connection (a co-pro commissioned in sweden and given funding by the BAI before RTÉ got involved, not yet broadcast)

    What do you do when your the head of Drama at RTÉ.... ask if you can take on scripted comedy.... what do you do when your head of drama and scripted comedy .... asked if you can take on non-scripted comedy .... what do you do if none of your drama productions aired in 2020 ... a sure stick them in until you find something to tack on to your portfiolio of nothing.

    I point out that the two drama's have yet to be broadcast because generally when a show is commissioned/produced in one year but not broadcast until the following year it is considered part of the following years budget, yet some how these 2 drama haven't been broadcast but get special treatment.

    How is this platform surviving in 2021 with all the online streaming services ?
    With the exception of Sport I don't know anyone who watches RTE or Live TV anymore all my work collogues talk about is what's on Netflix & YouTube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    How is this platform surviving in 2021 with all the online streaming services ?
    With the exception of Sport I don't know anyone who watches RTE or Live TV anymore all my work collogues talk about is what's on Netflix & YouTube.

    Not just about broadcasting. #PlatformNeutrality

    RTÉ could better utilize You Tube.... but then most youtubers have more content than RTÉ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    How is this platform surviving in 2021 with all the online streaming services ?
    With the exception of Sport I don't know anyone who watches RTE or Live TV anymore all my work collogues talk about is what's on Netflix & YouTube.

    Huge number of households still only have Saorview, there would be older people who would only watch the news and a few soaps, lots of people only have telly on for noise, don't care what's on, would explain why VM123 still exist


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    Huge number of households still only have Saorview, there would be older people who would only watch the news and a few soaps, lots of people only have telly on for noise, don't care what's on, would explain why VM123 still exist

    Point taken - I just have a bee in my bonnet about the license fee kills me having to pay this once a year for something myself and my family don't use. Would rather spend the money on a premium YouTube subscription and not pay anything toward these 'stars' salaries..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    How is this platform surviving in 2021 with all the online streaming services ?
    With the exception of Sport I don't know anyone who watches RTE or Live TV anymore all my work collogues talk about is what's on Netflix & YouTube.

    First off Ireland doesn't have broadband for a lot of people, in my parents house at the moment they have BB with speeds less than 1Mbps. Not going to stream much on that.

    Plus even if they had connectivity trying to explain how to setup and run netflix etc and they just wouldn't care. For all the tv they watch it is the news and then whatever rubbish is on that evening if they watch it at all......


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Point taken - I just have a bee in my bonnet about the license fee kills me having to pay this once a year for something myself and my family don't use. Would rather spend the money on a premium YouTube subscription and not pay anything toward these 'stars' salaries..

    Premium youtube at the moment costs me 2 quid a month :P

    Anyway RTE needs to be kept going and has a place in modern Irish society. It just need to find a way to stop burning millions while delivering very little for the Irish population.
    It is good to see they are getting back rugby onto the station which should help club rugby expand in Ireland. They need to concentrate on that sort of thing, not spending money buying a show 5 years old from some US channel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Front of RTE's entertainment section 'Listen: Proper geyser Damon Albarn to release new solo album'...

    Can people not spell 'geezer'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Front of RTE's entertainment section 'Listen: Proper geyser Damon Albarn to release new solo album'...

    Can people not spell 'geezer'?

    800px-Strokkur_geyser_eruption%2C_close-up_view.jpg

    Who you calling a geezer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Front of RTE's entertainment section 'Listen: Proper geyser Damon Albarn to release new solo album'...

    Can people not spell 'geezer'?

    Long slippery slope to nonentity, RabbleRouser

    We are Losing the battle ‘done..seen..gone….went… nooze…. quawter…’

    Only good thing is it helps to pick out the ‘scrote ‘ from the decent skin.

    Now infesting the National Airwaves, the Dáil, the professions might be our last chance.


    Sorry lads, we are on a slippery slope, lack of real ‘education’ is rearing its ugly head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    Not really as the poster pointed out England had already qualified, it was a match to win for our celtic brothers.

    England's football team is still much more prominent than Scotland's. I suspect that RTÉ's decision to show England's match on RTÉ 2 was influenced by the broadcasting of the same match on the ITV Network (except for STV, which showed the Scotland match - and so the England match was simulcast on ITV 2).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    England's football team is still much more prominent than Scotland's. I suspect that RTÉ's decision to show England's match on RTÉ 2 was influenced by the broadcasting of the same match on the ITV Network (except for STV, which showed the Scotland match - and so the England match was simulcast on ITV 2).

    But we are a much more mature country that can support our fellow brethren in Scotland.... right???? oh! no... we are only mature enough to support na Sasanach. :rolleyes:

    My statement still stands as to why RTÉ failed to consider selling some of the games to Virgin Media as they had done in 2016. and my statement still stands on the News channel.... that carries no ads.

    Also trust me if people had want to catch the English Match on UTV/ITV they would have been quick to tune it in, and those in Soarview and Virgin Media Land might have noticed how incredibly poor the RTÉ News channel is. I don't think they even highlighted it much that the clashing games were on their news channel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭DrSerious3


    Long slippery slope to nonentity, RabbleRouser

    We are Losing the battle ‘done..seen..gone….went… nooze…. quawter…’

    Only good thing is it helps to pick out the ‘scrote ‘ from the decent skin.

    Now infesting the National Airwaves, the Dáil, the professions might be our last chance.


    Sorry lads, we are on a slippery slope, lack of real ‘education’ is rearing its ugly head.

    I disagree with that rather snobby appraisal. Most people, educated or otherwise, just don't care as much as you do about what is a peripheral issue, although one you constantly mention.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    RTE the most trusted news in Ireland
    F**k me.....78% trust them

    RTE think they are doing a good job because of Covid. That will be a request for another few million from the government
    We only really have ourselves to blame


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    DrSerious3 wrote: »
    I disagree with that rather snobby appraisal. Most people, educated or otherwise, just don't care as much as you do about what is a peripheral issue, although one you constantly mention.

    You are perfectly right there, Doctor.

    But…hey…. If that’s the way you want to operate……..

    I just believe it’s just as easy to say ‘I saw the incident’ rather than ‘ I seen the incident’.

    But ..if you want to do the wrong thing, I can’t help you, a chara.

    Just typecast yourself if that’s your bag.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Elmo wrote: »
    But we are a much more mature country that can support our fellow brethren in Scotland.... right???? oh! no... we are only mature enough to support na Sasanach. :rolleyes:

    My statement still stands as to why RTÉ failed to consider selling some of the games to Virgin Media as they had done in 2016. and my statement still stands on the News channel.... that carries no ads.

    Also trust me if people had want to catch the English Match on UTV/ITV they would have been quick to tune it in, and those in Soarview and Virgin Media Land might have noticed how incredibly poor the RTÉ News channel is. I don't think they even highlighted it much that the clashing games were on their news channel.

    Are the games not picked in advance? I expect its a guess on which might be the better game so going with England is the obvious choice. No point trying to find problems when they don't exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    Are the games not picked in advance? I expect its a guess on which might be the better game so going with England is the obvious choice. No point trying to find problems when they don't exist.

    I am sure there are, I am only replying to the poster, who originally suggested the Scotland game over the England game, as there was more at stake, IMO I don't like soccer and have no interest. There are always reasons as to why you choose one thing over another.

    But its not me that's nit picking I put it to you the way RTÉ would put it.

    As a public service broadcaster we provided a 24 hour news services that carries no ads.

    As a public service broadcaster we must air large events such as the euros, "special events" if you like.

    Why not axe the News channel?
    Why not sell part of the rights to the euro's to Virgin Media?

    If they are causing you losses.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Elmo wrote: »
    I am sure there are, I am only replying to the poster, who originally suggested the Scotland game over the England game, as there was more at stake, IMO I don't like soccer and have no interest. There are always reasons as to why you choose one thing over another.

    But its not me that's nit picking I put it to you the way RTÉ would put it.

    As a public service broadcaster we provided a 24 hour news services that carries no ads.

    As a public service broadcaster we must air large events such as the euros, "special events" if you like.

    Why not axe the News channel?
    Why not sell part of the rights to the euro's to Virgin Media?

    If they are causing you losses.

    Axe 2FM before you go after anything else, that is a serious waste of money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    Axe 2FM before you go after anything else, that is a serious waste of money

    It was a running joke about how '2fm went from being on the pulse of what was hot in Ireland' to 'now barely having a pulse'.

    That was in the late 2000s. Fast forward 10+ years, and it's not even clued in to what's popular. It's presenters are trading on nostalgia, hoping that that will stay relevant to the 'masses'. Nope... it's relevant to a tiny portion of the audience, and none of them are under 18. Even 18+ have spotify. The tiny (and let's be honest, it is tiny) audience 2fm have wouldn't even sustain the average spotify playlist.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    It was a running joke about how '2fm went from being on the pulse of what was hot in Ireland' to 'now barely having a pulse'.

    That was in the late 2000s. Fast forward 10+ years, and it's not even clued in to what's popular. It's presenters are trading on nostalgia, hoping that that will stay relevant to the 'masses'. Nope... it's relevant to a tiny portion of the audience, and none of them are under 18. Even 18+ have spotify. The tiny (and let's be honest, it is tiny) audience 2fm have wouldn't even sustain the average spotify playlist.

    They should have put 2FM into the same coffin as Gerry.
    Imagine a radio station with a 35 year old doing hot gossip and acting like a teenager to emulate her father. It's a car crash station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    It was a running joke about how '2fm went from being on the pulse of what was hot in Ireland' to 'now barely having a pulse'.

    That was in the late 2000s. Fast forward 10+ years, and it's not even clued in to what's popular. It's presenters are trading on nostalgia, hoping that that will stay relevant to the 'masses'. Nope... it's relevant to a tiny portion of the audience, and none of them are under 18. Even 18+ have spotify. The tiny (and let's be honest, it is tiny) audience 2fm have wouldn't even sustain the average spotify playlist.

    Only real reason the were surviving in the last 2000s was because of Gerry Ryan and even he was slowly losing an audience. Only to be replaced for 5 years by Ryan Tubrity who they kept in that position when it was clear he wasn't getting andience, while paying him top rate.
    according to the JNLR figures, Tubridy has lost a massive 124,000 people from his audience since he took over the radio slot from the late Gerry Ryan in 2010.
    Dipping figures have been a constant worry for Ryan, and last year he admitted that if his figures continued to slump, he would have to seriously rethink his position and future career in radio.

    Those scathing remarks from joe.ie!

    https://www.joe.ie/life-style/ryan-tubridy-is-a-major-turn-off-for-irish-radio-listeners-35664

    That was in May 2012

    a year later
    And although his own weekday show listenership has dropped to 159,000 according to the latest JNLR figures, Tubridy said that he's feeling confident about the months ahead.

    https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/ryan-tubridy-determined-to-improve-2fm-shows-listenership-29254029.html
    His total listenership now stands at 144,000, which is 1,000 less than ex-Westlife star Nicky Byrne, whose show with Jenny Greene took a slight dip down from 151,000 to 145,000.

    https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/radio/rte-deny-reports-ryan-tubridy-is-moving-to-ronan-collins-slot-on-rte-radio-one-30492556.html
    RTÉ pointed out its “book-on-book” figures — comparing listenerships from the last quarter of 2014 to the first quarter of 2015 — for both stations showed gains for a number of its stars including 2fm’s Ryan Tubridy (189,000 listeners)

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20328105.html

    But they kept paying him, kept saying if we don't have him someone else will. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    They should have put 2FM into the same coffin as Gerry.
    Imagine a radio station with a 35 year old doing hot gossip and acting like a teenager to emulate her father. It's a car crash station.

    Nothing sadder than 40 year olds trying to act like 'hello fellow kids'.
    Wouldn't be so bad if they were 'actually' up to date, but by the time she does the 'entertainment gossip' it's old news. Everyone knows it. The internet killed the radio star.

    Or the radio 'personality'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Nothing sadder than 40 year olds trying to act like 'hello fellow kids'.
    Wouldn't be so bad if they were 'actually' up to date, but by the time she does the 'entertainment gossip' it's old news. Everyone knows it. The internet killed the radio star.

    Or the radio 'personality'.

    Interesting radio numbers are up all over the country. So radio is far from dead.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/covid-19-crisis-prompted-huge-surge-in-radio-listenership-first-figures-show-1.4401069

    Radio 1 is flying. Yet

    RTÉ 2fm’s market share slipped back to 5.8 per cent, down from 6.4 per cent a year ago, with its weekday peak-time shows dropping back especially at key travel times. “I’m not surprised we took a thump,” said head of 2fm Dan Healy. “We’ve just got to take this one.”

    Talk about flogging a dead horse at this stage. It seems 2FM was the only station losing listeners


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭1874


    Nothing sadder than 40 year olds trying to act like 'hello fellow kids'.
    Wouldn't be so bad if they were 'actually' up to date, but by the time she does the 'entertainment gossip' it's old news. Everyone knows it. The internet killed the radio star.

    Or the radio 'personality'.

    personality, that made me chuckle


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