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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    they don't want to administer at that micro level and I dont blame them.

    Really so your telling me that the DSP doesn’t micro administer

    Unemployment payments (JA, JB or PUP, including dependents )
    State pensions
    Family income supplement
    Living alone allowances
    Rent allowance
    Children’s allowance
    And so on

    And no one can multiply the number of people on the household benefits packs by €160? At the very least.

    Come on now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Electricity or Gas €1.15 a day payable monthly

    Microscopic management

    Some people get it direct every month, depending on the monthy/year 32.20, 32.35, 34.50 and 35.65.

    While others have it directly added to their electricity bill.

    Meanwhile easier to pick a random number to give to the License Fee. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    Notice rhetorical adds getting pumped on the radio to pay the TV license
    With a someone whistling to make sound so simple to pay it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Elmo wrote: »
    In other news the Oireachtas committee wants to appoint Larry Bass to the Board of RTÉ.

    You might know him from such shows as

    You’re A Star
    Fame
    The Voice of Ireland
    DWTS

    Current RTÉ board members are seeking advice.

    Advice on what?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Advice on what?

    Anyone connected with those shows should never be let within an asses roar of any ‘Board’…..bar the trapdoor of a hastily erected scaffold.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Advice on what?

    Legal advice on the new board members.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    RTÉ2 back to copying reality TV series from BBC THREE with .... Glow Up.

    Suppose I should be happy they are making TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Because RTÉ are underspend by 3million last year they will now commission ....

    .... a few dating and reality shows ....

    Rather than maybe considering developing some quality drama or comedy.....

    In terms of drama ...

    Another international scandi-co-pro staring Angelica Ball

    and what do to with Amy .... well there's an international co-pro starring .... Dr Quinn Medicine Woman.

    Neither of which will attract much attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    Because RTÉ are underspend by 3million last year they will now commission ....

    .... a few dating and reality shows ....

    Rather than maybe considering developing some quality drama or comedy.....

    In terms of drama ...

    Another international scandi-co-pro staring Angelica Ball
    The upcoming drama production's story includes the Criminal Assets Bureau and the suspects' connection to bombings in Belgium (quite relevant, considering what happened there only 5 years ago!). So I think it'll be worth watching. By the way, that actress's first name is Angeline!
    Elmo wrote: »
    and what do to with Amy .... well there's an international co-pro starring .... Dr Quinn Medicine Woman.

    Neither of which will attract much attention.

    If it's set in Ireland and stars Jane Seymour, whose experience also includes being a Bond girl, then why not?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    The upcoming drama production's story includes the Criminal Assets Bureau and the suspects' connection to bombings in Belgium (quite relevant, considering what happened there only 5 years ago!). So I think it'll be worth watching. By the way, that actress's first name is Angeline!


    If it's set in Ireland and stars Jane Seymour, whose experience also includes being a Bond girl, then why not?!

    Name the last co-pro with Angeline Ball?
    Name the last "major" co-pro with a relatively famous person?

    No offence to either or Amy, its more about RTÉ's idea of how to do drama.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    Name the last co-pro with Angeline Ball?
    Name the last "major" co-pro with a relatively famous person?

    No offence to either or Amy, its more about RTÉ's idea of how to do drama.

    Angeline Ball is a massive warning sign for me. Only thing I can watch her in is The commitments. When I watch her in anything else... it's terrible.

    I've wasted too much time watching stuff she's been in-it's pretty much always bad.

    So I won't be watching it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Just to remind you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Angeline Ball is a massive warning sign for me. Only thing I can watch her in is The commitments. When I watch her in anything else... it's terrible.

    I've wasted too much time watching stuff she's been in-it's pretty much always bad.

    So I won't be watching it.

    I didn't watch 'Acceptable Risk' but, from the trailers that I saw, I don't think she was convincing in the character of a cop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    Name the last co-pro with Angeline Ball?
    Name the last "major" co-pro with a relatively famous person?

    No offence to either or Amy, its more about RTÉ's idea of how to do drama.

    Amy Huberman?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭political analyst


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/outdated-television-licence-fee-could-be-replaced-by-household-charge-based-on-persons-ability-to-pay-under-new-proposal-40547022.html

    The “regressive” and “outdated” television licence fee could be replaced by a household charge based on a person’s ability to pay, a member of the Future of Media Commission has said.

    Professor Gillian Doyle told the Oireachtas Media Committee on Wednesday that the commission was considering alternatives to the “device-specific” licence fee which has been replaced in other countries in recent years.

    She said a compulsory licence fee, which currently stands at €160 per year in Ireland, used to be very prevalent in many countries but a number of them have moved in away from it in recent years, including the likes of Netherlands, Denmark and Finland.
    The professor of media economics at the Centre for Cultural Policy Research at the University of Glasgow said the idea of voluntary subscriptions from citizens had also been examined but there were questions about whether it could raise enough money in an Irish context.

    She said another possibility to replace the licence fee was a government grant or direct exchequer funding. “It's an approach that would remove evasion, promote universality, it has the advantage of making income more stable and predictable,” she said.

    However, the academic said said the “snag” was the risk of political interference and said there would be a need for safeguards to ensure the government of the day could not adjust the funding. “We’ve looked at all of those and we're considering them,” Professor Doyle told the committee of the various options to replace the licence fee.

    Would a referendum to enshrine RTÉ's editorial independence in the Constitution be feasible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I didn't watch 'Acceptable Risk' but, from the trailers that I saw, I don't think she was convincing in the character of a cop.

    Angeline Ball's not been convincing since The Commitments. It's a sure sign something is gonna be bad when you see her listed in the cast.

    As for Acceptable Risk, It was pretty ridiculous, tbh.

    The more it went on, the more ridiculous it got. The plot was very 'American thriller', but that doesn't work in IReland.

    I mean, this is Ireland- 'the neighbours' know when you haven't taken the bins out. The whole 'conspiracy', working for a 'secret' organisation... as well as trying to do that in a 6 episode series is just asking for failure.
    And that's what it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo



    No.

    What a pointless exercise that commission is and was, dead before it ever got going. Obsessed by identity politics and fake news. With only a slight node to the pre-decided conclusion that the Licence Fee was “regressive” and “outdated”.

    Very little about the content provided.

    I imagine they forgot the over 400,000 license that are given free each year due to the persons ability to pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Amy Huberman?

    Yes, we need more Amy Huberman. :rolleyes:
    I'd take another 18months of full lockdown if she was never on tv again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Elmo wrote: »
    Just to remind you


    It shows how little I watch RTE anymore that I honestly never heard of this until now. I listen to an awful lot of radio (where as we know RTE incessantly plug other RTE work) and read the papers (incl. the TV critic's choices) yet somehow I missed this completely. Lucky escape I think.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Elmo wrote: »
    No.

    What a pointless exercise that commission is and was, dead before it ever got going. Obsessed by identity politics and fake news. With only a slight node to the pre-decided conclusion that the Licence Fee was “regressive” and “outdated”.

    Very little about the content provided.

    I imagine they forgot the over 400,000 license that are given free each year due to the persons ability to pay.

    I guess that, obviously, that fact undermines the claim that the licence fee protects editorial independence.

    But isn't it important that the main national public-service broadcaster is independent of the government? Isn't it comparable to the independence of the judiciary?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    It shows how little I watch RTE anymore that I honestly never heard of this until now. I listen to an awful lot of radio (where as we know RTE incessantly plug other RTE work) and read the papers (incl. the TV critic's choices) yet somehow I missed this completely. Lucky escape I think.........

    It wasn't that bad. Bit of over acting from some but not bad. Trying to be a Channel 4 Swedish noir police drama kind of thing and not making a bad fist of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I guess that, obviously, that fact undermines the claim that the licence fee protects editorial independence.

    But isn't it important that the main national public-service broadcaster is independent of the government? Isn't it comparable to the independence of the judiciary?

    It is especially when the government don't fully cover all of the "free" licence fees and when they were able to cut it pretty handily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,628 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I guess that, obviously, that fact undermines the claim that the licence fee protects editorial independence.

    But isn't it important that the main national public-service broadcaster is independent of the government? Isn't it comparable to the independence of the judiciary?

    There is no reason that a workable system to remove the funding from direct political control could not be put in place.

    It's a bit like the judiciary but not directly comparable. As much as I support Public Service Broadcasting an independent judiciary is much more fundamental to our democracy.

    By the way, the free TV licence given by DSP as part of the Household Package to over 70's is not linked to ability to pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    elperello wrote: »
    There is no reason that a workable system to remove the funding from direct political control could not be put in place.

    It's a bit like the judiciary but not directly comparable. As much as I support Public Service Broadcasting an independent judiciary is much more fundamental to our democracy.

    By the way, the free TV licence given by DSP as part of the Household Package to over 70's is not linked to ability to pay.

    Why should it be, pal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    elperello wrote: »
    There is no reason that a workable system to remove the funding from direct political control could not be put in place.

    It's a bit like the judiciary but not directly comparable. As much as I support Public Service Broadcasting an independent judiciary is much more fundamental to our democracy.

    By the way, the free TV licence given by DSP as part of the Household Package to over 70's is not linked to ability to pay.

    I agree but I don't think it should be put in the constitution

    By the way its not just the over 70's that get the Household Package.

    Carers (on Carer's Allowance)
    between 66 and 70 and getting: -
    - Deserted Wife’s Benefit
    - Garda Widow’s Pension
    - If you are from a country with a bilateral agreement with Ireland etc
    Incapacity Supplement (for at least 12 months) with Disablement Benefit
    - You are aged between 66 and 70 and not receiving a qualified payment, and satisfy a means test

    Under 66
    - Disability Allowance
    - Invalidity Pension
    - Blind Pension
    - and the last 2 above

    all of these terms and more from a Department that doesn't every micro manage payments or means tests!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,552 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    RTE is showing 4 or 5 year old episodes of Apres Match along with their Euro's coverage, trying to con people in to thinking they are new, either have new episodes or don't bother, such a bloody basket case organisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    RTE is showing 4 or 5 year old episodes of Apres Match along with their Euro's coverage, trying to con people in to thinking they are new, either have new episodes or don't bother, such a bloody basket case organisation.

    I half expect them to reair the entirety of Glenroe.

    TG4 are just repeating the oldest shows you can imagine. Not even great ones, just 'filler'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    I half expect them to reair the entirety of Glenroe.

    TG4 are just repeating the oldest shows you can imagine. Not even great ones, just 'filler'.

    I wouldn’t mind if either rebroadcast dramas, TG4 are better than RTÉ at rebroadcasting comedy and drama but it took the pandemic for RTÉ to even consider repeating Batchelors Walk.

    Yet they have time to repeat Ear To The Ground from before lockdown! A largely current affairs program, which they won’t even repeat on their news channel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Elmo wrote: »
    I wouldn’t mind if either rebroadcast dramas, TG4 are better than RTÉ at rebroadcasting comedy and drama but it took the pandemic for RTÉ to even consider repeating Batchelors Walk.

    Yet they have time to repeat Ear To The Ground from before lockdown! A largely current affairs program, which they won’t even repeat on their news channel.

    Just as long as they don't re-air 'The Last furlong'...

    That was the moment Simon Delaney's career died, since he wrote, produced, and starred in that television abortion.

    It's worse than the Big Bow Wow.. legitimately worse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,555 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Just as long as they don't re-air 'The Last furlong'...

    That was the moment Simon Delaney's career died, since he wrote, produced, and starred in that television abortion.

    It's worse than the Big Bow Wow.. legitimately worse.

    Hope they will air ‘Leave it to Mrs O Brien’ soon…….

    Excellent production….


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