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Random EV thoughts.....
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Toyota is the last man standing firm. If they stand a little bit longer they'll fall and they won't be able to get up again
My guess is they're betting on the long game, hoping to jump straight from hybrids to hydrogren
And who knows, maybe they're right, batteries will only be dominant until something better comes along
Based on the ICE engine, they only have to wait another 100 years or so! "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost
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the_amazing_raisin wrote: »My guess is they're betting on the long game, hoping to jump straight from hybrids to hydrogren
And who knows, maybe they're right, batteries will only be dominant until something better comes along
Hydrogen would want to get a lot better than 268kWh (to produce 5.6kg) for 1,003km (at 41km/h).... I'll do 1,600km at 120km/h with 268kWh....
And then there's the storage, transport, and distribution after it's produced..... Here's a new Hydrogen tanker...'Suiso Frontier', the world’s first purpose-built liquefied hydrogen carrier.
Suiso Frontier was developed primarily to provide a means of transporting liquefied hydrogen (LH2) at 1/800 of its original gas-state volume, cooled to –253 degrees Celsius, safely and in large quantities over long distances by sea. This is made possible thanks to a new 1,250-cubic-metre, vacuum-insulated double-shell-structure stainless steel LH2 cargo tank specially developed by Harima Works
https://www.bairdmaritime.com/ship-world/tanker-world/gas-tanker-world/vessel-review-suiso-frontier-japanese-lh2-carrier-sets-the-pace-in-hydrogen-transport/
meanwhile the vast vast majority of homes/towns/cities already have electricity.... people even get it for free off their roof!!0 -
Toyota is the last man standing firm. If they stand a little bit longer they'll fall and they won't be able to get up again
Only 35 Fuel cell cars for sale in the 2nd hand market out of the 91000 Toyota's in Japan of which 10 000 or so are hybrid and only 330 are phev.
I can't imagine they have much of a assembly line dedicated to fuel cells. It will probably run its course and close down.not affiliated, just being helpful.
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You can easily get a second hand charge point and have it installed for €600 all in.
Electricians here were basically calling for a minimum install fee of €450+ vat, so I think that side of it could be more problematic these days. €1500 inc. install is common enough now
.Say I bought one of the phevs I like. The X5 45e. A 24kWh battery (~20kWh net) with a 3kW onboard charger.
Is that a good use of a 22kW ac charger? No - and the use of the scant resource should be targeted by pricing.
I really don't think PHEVs hogging charge points are a huge issue these days & if they are, wouldn't a better solution be to install heaps & heaps of cheap, 7kW outlets?
Wouldn't 6x 7kW Type 2 sockets be a better use of resources than 22kW units, which only a handful of cars can utilise to the max?
We've barely seen any BEV/PHEV penetration yet & we're already calling to ban PHEVs & penalise slower charging BEVs too?
An X5 45e doing a an 80km daily commute, largely urban in nature, is every bit as good as a 100kWh Model X doing the same job.
Penalise one because it charges too slowly on AC?
More charging infrastructure please, then we can talk about banning sh1t
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the_amazing_raisin wrote: »More charging infrastructure and you wouldn't need to ban anything
Then the argument will turn to the "monstrously large & recklessly inefficient, planet destroying" electric SUVs. kWh/100km figures will become the new BER certification for EVs, to target these needless "resource hogs".
A needlessly big SUV or needlessly fast Tesla will be taxed accordingly, as will the miles travelled annually, until we are all in 10hp eco machines (electric bikes :pac:).0 -
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Then the argument will turn to the "monstrously large & recklessly inefficient, planet destroying" electric SUVs. kWh/100km figures will become the new BER certification for EVs, to target these needless "resource hogs".
A needlessly big SUV or needlessly fast Tesla will be taxed accordingly, as will the miles travelled annually, until we are all in 10hp eco machines (electric bikes :pac:).
You mean exactly what's been done with ICE cars for years?
I do actually believe we need to reduce the amount of cars we have on the roads long term. Obviously this isn't an option for someone commuting from Athlone to Dublin, but arguably there's a lot of people in the suburbs of cities who could easily cycle to and from the city or use public transport
And I'm sure they would do this is if there was great cycling and public transport infrastrucutre and that's why I think there should be considerable investment in those areas
However, you can't have a car friendly city and a cycling/pedestrian friendly city at the same time. Ultimately city centres need to be a lot more pedentrian friendly and this is going to come at the cost of making them a hassle to drive through
Is this a bad thing? Not necessarily, walk through any city in the Netherlands and it's generally a lot more nicer and more relaxing than any city in Ireland.
Do drviers in the Netherlands complain about the car unfirendly cities? A bit, but they've learned to live with it and I think many Dutch people wouldn't swap their city planners for ours
All this isn't by accident, the Dutch governments have been working to make their cities this way for over 30 years
If it took a nation which is generally quite forward thinking 30 years to do it then it'll probably take us backwards paddy's about 50 years at least :rolleyes:
So if you ask me now whether we should focus on now, I would say both
But I'd expect the transition to EVs to be a lot quicker, and that's fine. By the time we'd be turning into a less car centred socienty, a lot of EVs being sold will be reaching the end of their lifetimes
So instead of this sudden forced mass extinction of cars, people just won't replace their cars, or go from 2 cars to 1 car. They'll use a bike or public transport because ideally they'll be a lot easier and more convenient
And yes, I know my ideas are totally unrealistic, and we live in a banana republic ruled by monkeys throwing sh!t at each other :pac:"The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost
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This is a very random EV thought but I recently got some post from Mo I Rana in Norway, where Bjorn Nyland often goes when he's doing the Arctic circle trips
My first thought was along the lines of "why is Bjorn sending me post, how does he even know who I am?"
Then I figured it might be a charging card from one of the various charging services I've signed up to over the years
Disappointingly, it turned out to be a new EBS debit card :rolleyes:
I know companies often outsource this stuff, but I cannot fathom how it's cheaper to get debit cards posted from the arctic circle
"The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost
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[Deleted User] wrote: »How not to setup onstreet charging!
What were they thinking!!!!
Gotta leave room for people to park on the footpath of course!?0 -
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Gotta leave room for people to park on the footpath of course!?
Yeah I was gonna say that is the best parked Audi I've ever seen, it'll be parked halfway across the kerb as soon as the cameras leave
Speaking of Audi's, I see the PHEVs are blocking the chargers again
"The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost
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the_amazing_raisin wrote: »
Speaking of Audi's, I see the PHEVs are blocking usingthe chargers again
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fixed that for you
Sure we don't even kinow if that's a PHEV, probably a diesel Audi with the other end of the plug stuck in the fuel cap
Looking at those chargers, where did they get them? They look like they've been there for the past 50 years, how did they managed to make them look wrecked on the first day :eek:"The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost
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Speaking of chargers in dubious places, has the EasyGo/eir thing been quietly been swept under the carpet?
We'll have the national broadband plan and the new maternity hospital finished before that gets done I'll wager "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost
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Speaking of chargers in dubious places, has the EasyGo/eir thing been quietly been swept under the carpet?
See the interview yesterday on EV Review Ireland YouTube channel with Chris of EasyGo. He mentions we'll see a lot of movement in the next few months from them. They're also in discussions with councils in tandem and will start hiring more staff themselves. Sounds promising.
https://youtu.be/naP5A56GRTI 0
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