What's your rothar worth as a percentage of your car or primary motor vehicle?

Jeremy Sproket · 18-06-2021 1:37pm #1

My bike is a second hand unisex hybrid. I bought it for €100.
Yes, I verified the ownership before buying :P he showed my photos of him on it with his amateur cycling clubmates and gave me the receipt that he had from the bike shop.

My car is an old but reliable and immaculate Nissan Micra, worth about €1,000 at a push.

Bike value: €100.
Car value: €1,000.

Percentage of bike of car value: 10%

Let's see if we can achieve over 100% for someone's bike

sparrowcar · 18-06-2021 1:45pm

There was a thread similar to this years ago either here or maybe reddit.
It was how much your car was worth as a percentage of your house. Needless to say it was an eye opener. Far too many Range Rovers parked outside 2 bed mid terraces if I recall.

Anyway should be interesting.

Car €20k according to carzone
Bike 1 MTB €4.5k
Bike 2 Road €1.5k
Bike 3 BMX €500

Percentage 32.5%

Reason for edit.. adding all bikes as others have

CantGetNoSleep · 18-06-2021 1:53pm

sparrowcar wrote: »

There was a thread similar to this years ago either here or maybe reddit.
It was how much your car was worth as a percentage of your house. Needless to say it was an eye opener. Far too many Range Rovers parked outside 2 bed mid terraces if I recall.

Anyway should be interesting.

Car €20k according to carzone
Bike €4.5k
Percentage 22.5%

My figures are almost identical to that for my most expensive bike.

Add in the other six and I think I'd top the 100% though

Fann Linn · 18-06-2021 1:57pm

Bike €2.5k Bianchi
Car €2.5k 08 Toyota.

Both performing great.

Jeremy Sproket · 18-06-2021 2:02pm

You're all putting me to shame with your fancy bikes :P Your bikes are worth multiples of my car :pac:

ednwireland · 18-06-2021 2:10pm

car 7k 131 kia

bike 3.5k cannondale di2 carbon wheels
bike 2 300 10 ye old focus
bike 3 300 planet x kaffenback
bike4 28 year ol aluminium o (classic value ?

)

dont forget

rule 25 // The bikes on top of your car should be worth more than the car.Or at least be relatively more expensive. Basically, if you’re putting your Huffy on your Rolls, you’re in trouble, mister.

07Lapierre · 18-06-2021 2:10pm

Bike 1: about 6k
Bike 2: about 3k
Bike 3: about 1k
Bike 4: €500 or what ever I can get for it.
Spare wheels: €1200

Car: about 10k and dropping.

secman · 18-06-2021 2:21pm

Car €4,000

Bike 1 €3.500
Bike 2 €3,500
Bike 3 €500
Bike 4 €300 soon to be sold
Bike 5 vintage 27 year old Rapparee value...sentimental

ednwireland · 18-06-2021 2:24pm

Jeremy Sproket wrote: »

You're all putting me to shame with your fancy bikes :P Your bikes are worth multiples of my car :pac:

regretting asking yet ?????:D:D:D:D:D

Seth Brundle · 18-06-2021 3:02pm

Bike 1 (2019) €1800
Bike 2 (2013) €500
(Need a bike 3 - what are you selling secman?)
Car purchased before Christmas after a driver did an dangerous & illegal turn and killed my last one - 162 BMW 520d @ €25k

fat bloke · 18-06-2021 3:07pm

Well I paid 6 and a half grand for my cervelo and 2 and a half for my Golf!

smacl · 18-06-2021 3:30pm

Don't drive but have an inherited car in the driveway that I keep meaning to learn on at some time. Like myself, both the bike and the car are getting on a bit and not much to look at. Bike is my primary vehicle, could probably get €2-4k for the car but will probably give it to a mate who's in need of a new motor.

Fann Linn · 18-06-2021 3:32pm

fat bloke wrote: »

Well I paid 6 and a half grand for my cervelo and 2 and a half for my Golf!

Priorities.

Weepsie · 18-06-2021 3:59pm

Also don't drive.

Can't put a value on the bikes, as they're arguably worth more than I oad for them as they're all framesets built up and in one case in an option that was never available off the shelf.

Like smacl, I use the bike for everything so measuring it's value is even harder.

Wife drives though. I'd say the bikes are probably worth more than the car , but only just and onky because some lazy dinkus gave it a cat d write off when it was super cheap to fix and asses

Tombo2001 · 18-06-2021 9:00pm

The bike I bought recently is possibly worth more than my car.

As much a reflection on the car as the bike.

The thing about the car is that whether its cheap or expensive, it gets me from A to B.

Whereas I bike, I really feel the benefits of spending up.

secman · 18-06-2021 9:18pm

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(Need a bike 3 - what are you selling secman?)
[/quote]

Caad9 54cm
http://www.adverts.ie/...gra-bbq-55cm/6949398.
Feels more like a 56cm.
The original advert when I bought it.
Its running well but seatpost is seized and i need to drop it by approx 1 inch according to a bike fit. Just trying to eliminate a back issue that keeps flaring up, doing pilates, changed office chair and selling the Caad9.
You did ask Seth

Daroxtar · 18-06-2021 9:27pm

Ah jaysus, I have a fully custom, hand built Sarto bike and a 20 year old Yaris .
Give or take, about 3000%

Seth Brundle · 18-06-2021 9:31pm

secman wrote: »

Caad9 54cm
http://www.adverts.ie/...gra-bbq-55cm/6949398.

Link not working and I can't find it on Adverts

68 lost souls · 18-06-2021 9:43pm

Bike is probably 2% although talking actual values in here is probably I’ll advised as there is enough info on your profile and listing the values of cars and bikes to be stolen is not a great idea.

secman · 18-06-2021 9:46pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Link not working and I can't find it on Adverts

Was trying to upload an old adverts link, not currently up on adverts or anywhere at the moment. Leave it with me and I'll try to sort something.

Grassey · 18-06-2021 9:55pm

Isn't it a bit mad that the cost of a car is so cheap when you consider the amount of materials in it... And a bike is so expensive for 8kg of carbon, and a 1kg of assorted shiny parts

Landlord21 · 18-06-2021 10:04pm

fat bloke wrote: »

Well I paid 6 and a half grand for my cervelo and 2 and a half for my Golf!

6.5k for bicycle??

Am reading that right? ^_^

Beasty · 18-06-2021 10:06pm

Well one of the cars is worth €1k

6 of my bikes are each worth more than that

Both our other cars are worth more than any of the bikes

Overall I would say

Total bike value =40% of total car value
Total bike value = 50% of horse van value
Total bike value = 50% of total tractor value

Conclusion? I think I need some more bikes.....

Beasty · 18-06-2021 10:09pm

Landlord21 wrote: »

6.5k for bicycle??

Am reading that right? ^_^

Yep - he's a bit of a cheapskate. Three of my Cervelos cost more than that. The other two are track bikes and a bit cheaper

18-06-2021 10:50pm

Beasty wrote: »

Well one of the cars is worth €1k

6 of my bikes are each worth more than that

Both our other cars are worth more than any of the bikes

Overall I would say

Total bike value =40% of total car value
Total bike value = 50% of horse van value
Total bike value = 50% of total tractor value

Conclusion? I think I need some more bikes.....

If only those bikes were vintage you'd be saving a fortune on road tax wha?

fat bloke · 18-06-2021 10:55pm

Landlord21 wrote: »

6.5k for bicycle??

Am reading that right? ^_^

And that was back in 2012. 10 grand wouldn't buy its equivalent today.

magicbastarder · 18-06-2021 11:04pm

i'm confused as to whether i should list resale value of car against new value of bike or not.
my car was probably 20-25k new in 2012 when it was made, my bike probably 3k value new.

18-06-2021 11:04pm

Landlord21 wrote: »

6.5k for bicycle??

Am reading that right? ^_^

Wait till you see this. Lets say you have a frame, saddle + seat post, wheels and handlebars but need everything else like gearing, brakes etc. and bear in mind those parts I first mentioned alone could get you to 6.5k probably.

https://www.bike24.com/p2215743.html

EDIT: I remember one of the men who won that big lotto jackpot as part of a syndicate around naul in recent times being on local radio telling the presenter he'd get a new bike and the presenter being a bit taken at what bikes could cost.

crosstownk · 18-06-2021 11:33pm

I don't own a car but I do use my wife's car occasionally. Based on the RRP of both, the bike is 14%. Hard to say what the current used values are.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 18-06-2021 11:33pm

Car 1 - daily driver €3000
Car 2 - AWD snow car €1000
Car 3 - garage queen classic car €12500

Bike 1 - S-Works Roubaix - €3000
Bike 2 - Felt VR30 - €1000
Bike 3 - Cube Attain - €400
Bike 4 - Cube LTD Race 29er - €500

Cars - € 16500
Bikes - €4900

So approximately 30%

TheW1zard · 18-06-2021 11:43pm

ednwireland wrote: »

car 7k 131 kia

bike 3.5k cannondale di2 carbon wheels
bike 2 300 10 ye old focus
bike 3 300 planet x kaffenback
bike4 28 year ol aluminium o (classic value ? )

dont forget

rule 25 // The bikes on top of your car should be worth more than the car.Or at least be relatively more expensive. Basically, if you’re putting your Huffy on your Rolls, you’re in trouble, mister.

Refer to rule 25!
I think I'd be 50% lol

Eamonnator · 18-06-2021 11:54pm

My car is worth about 12 euro per kg.
My best bike is worth about 500 euro per kg.

magicbastarder · 19-06-2021 12:04am

or another way of looking at it; new, my bike would be a third or a quarter of the price of a bike used at the very top level of the sport.
new, my car would be worth less than one percent of similar.

Beasty · 19-06-2021 1:53pm

I really hope this is not a pre-cursor for a discussion about introducing a wheels tax

Cars = 15
Trailers = 9
Tractors = 8
Horse van = 5
Grass cutter = 4
Bikes = quite a few more than the aggregate of the above....

AndrewJRenko · 19-06-2021 6:59pm

One commuter bike, about 10% of the value of the commuter car.

cletus · 19-06-2021 7:06pm

My main bike is probably worth 25% of the value of my car.

If I add the my other two bikes to it, I probably come up to about 50%.

This has more to do with the value of my car, than the value of my bikes

volchitsa · 19-06-2021 7:08pm

Beasty wrote: »

I really hope this is not a pre-cursor for a discussion about introducing a wheels tax

Cars = 15
Trailers = 9
Tractors = 8
Horse van = 5
Grass cutter = 4
Bikes = quite a few more than the aggregate of the above....

You have 15 cars?? Why?

cletus · 19-06-2021 7:14pm

volchitsa wrote: »

You have 15 cars?? Why?

I thought that was a wheel count, not a vehicle count. Having said that, a mate of mine wouldn't be far off the number of vehicles Beasty has listed, he's a collector of classic cars

crosstownk · 19-06-2021 10:05pm

I'm surprised this hasn't been referenced yet.

THE RULES wrote:

RULE #25: The bikes on top of your car should be worth more than the car. Or at least be relatively more expensive. Basically, if you’re putting your Huffy on your Rolls, you’re in trouble, mister. Remember what Sean said*.

*

What Sean said wrote:

Family does not come first. The bike does. Sean Kelly, being interviewed after the ’84 Amstel Gold Race, spots his wife leaning against his Citroën AX. He interrupts the interview to tell her to get off the paintwork, to which she shrugs, “In your life the car comes first, then the bike, then me.” Instinctively, he snaps back, “You got the order wrong. The bike comes first.”

cletus · 19-06-2021 10:28pm

crosstownk wrote: »

I'm surprised this hasn't been referenced yet.

*

Enfilade referenced it 6 posts in...

crosstownk · 19-06-2021 10:40pm

cletus wrote: »

edwinireland referenced it 6 posts in...

I see it now. My speed reading abilities continue to diminish.

cletus · 19-06-2021 10:55pm

crosstownk wrote: »

I see it now. My speed reading abilities continue to diminish.

As are mine, it would seem...

Thud · 19-06-2021 11:35pm

Beasty wrote: »

I really hope this is not a pre-cursor for a discussion about introducing a wheels tax

Cars = 15
Trailers = 9
Tractors = 8
Horse van = 5
Grass cutter = 4
Bikes = quite a few more than the aggregate of the above....

Not feeling so bad about six bikes now

spiggotpaddy · 26-06-2021 1:02pm

When I'm driving my fifteen year old banger and I see a road bike or two I say to my passengers 'look at that idiot, can't he afford a nice motorcar ' which is usually followed by a no comment tumbleweed kinda moment.

magicbastarder · 26-06-2021 1:08pm

you could easily argue that by weight, cars are much better value than bikes.
the current model of my car (new) is about €18 per kilo.
my bike would probably be about €300 or €400 per kilo.

spiggotpaddy · 26-06-2021 1:42pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

you could easily argue that by weight, cars are much better value than bikes.
the current model of my car (new) is about €18 per kilo.
my bike would probably be about €300 or €400 per kilo.

Don't be giving them ideas, with the sparsity of bikes and parts your dealer will start charging by the gram.

pat k · 26-06-2021 2:08pm

my bike is an orbea purchased for e1,700 and the car is an octavia 161 purchased for e16,000 would like a nicer bike before a nicer car ( you know what im sayin !!)

:D

Breezer · 26-06-2021 9:25pm

Bike 1: €4750
Bike 2: €1000
Various bike bits: god only knows

Car: €437 on Go Car in the last 3 years.

fatbhoy · 27-06-2021 12:28pm

Are people posting current value of bike and that of car? Otherwise it's meaningless.

adrian522 · 27-06-2021 1:19pm

Bike 1: €1600
Bike2: €300

I have no idea, first one is €1800 new and less than 3 months old.
Second one is 6 years old and has a lot of the components replaced, don't know what it would sell for, guessing €300.

Car: €9,000

Rough guess based on carzone ads, though mine has a lot less miles than the ones on carzone.

So bikes are worth 21% of car.

Grassey · 27-06-2021 2:32pm

fatbhoy wrote:

Are people posting current value of bike and that of car? Otherwise it's meaningless.

It does seem to be purchase price of bike vs current car price...

Either that or bikes hold their value far better than cars!

What's your rothar worth as a percentage of your car or primary motor vehicle?

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