Is there any country you would not go to even if you were paid to go there?

Rikand · 15-06-2021 09:31PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

At the time of going to PNG a colleague and I had a choice, one had to go to PNG, the other the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

We tossed a coin for it.
At the time Port Moresby and Kinshasa were something like 2 and 3 on the worst cities to visit in the world list after Mogadishu.

I think I would just give in my notice

15-06-2021 09:34PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

That's assuming you are a straight man. Plenty of countries that have no civil unrest are hostile to both gay people or women or both. If I was gay I wouldn't risk Orbans Hungary. It might turn out fine but if all you have to go off is what you read before you book you will probably pick somewhere else

You don't need to worry about Hungary if gay. There are gay people actually living there.

Bobblehats · 15-06-2021 09:35PM

Rikand wrote: »

All of Africa
All of Central and South America
And probably a few of the ex-soviet countries too. Particularly the ones near the middle east.
Oh yeah, and the Middle East too
And some of those east Asian island type nations. Indonesia, for example would hold no appeal to me

Something like that. I could probably pass in most of those places under the “right light”, which let’s face it is almost directly overhead but once they catch a flash of the old blue steel I’m a potential ransom

15-06-2021 09:39PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

That's assuming you are a straight man. Plenty of countries that have no civil unrest are hostile to both gay people or women or both. If I was gay I wouldn't risk Orbans Hungary. It might turn out fine but if all you have to go off is what you read before you book you will probably pick somewhere else

Homosexually decriminalised there in 1961, a full 30 years before Ireland. 6 years before the UK, which was in fact one of the most prosecutorial regimes regarding the actual use of the laws. See Turing. And one year before the first US state to legalise it, 40 years before the Supreme Court legalised it for the ten states or so who hadn’t yet done that.

And yet I don’t remember European states demanding we be kicked out of the EU. And gay people travelled here.

breezy1985 · 15-06-2021 10:06PM

bubblypop wrote: »

You don't need to worry about Hungary if gay. There are gay people actually living there.

I don't doudt it. I was talking about tourism and if you had never been before and we're choosing a place to go the things you hear about Orban or similar leaders in other countries I imagine would put a lot of people off

cashback · 15-06-2021 10:08PM

Rikand wrote: »

All of Africa
All of Central and South America
And probably a few of the ex-soviet countries too. Particularly the ones near the middle east.
Oh yeah, and the Middle East too
And some of those east Asian island type nations. Indonesia, for example would hold no appeal to me

Can't tell if these kinds of posts are serious.

15-06-2021 10:09PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Homosexually decriminalised there in 1961, a full 30 years before Ireland. 6 years before the UK, which was in fact one of the most prosecutorial regimes regarding the actual use of the laws. See Turing. And one year before the first US state to legalise it, 40 years before the Supreme Court legalised it for the ten states or so who hadn’t yet done that.

And yet I don’t remember European states demanding we be kicked out of the EU. And gay people travelled here.

your man over hungary is some throwback so,given his rethoric

But nonetheless,its likely just bluster,and we have as bad here with the ďup and their rethoric (they also have an openly gay elected representive,so its all bluster and bolix aswell...why need for it,fcuk knows!!)

15-06-2021 10:09PM

cashback wrote: »

Can't tell if these kinds of posts are serious.

He is. Some people just prefer to stay at home.

Richard Hillman · 15-06-2021 10:14PM

Saudi Arabia, unless it was an invasion force. The vast majority of Africa. Wouldn't mind going to Cape Town in South Africa for cricket or Kruger for the wildlife. Plus the odd wildlife places around the continent but generally wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

Bangladesh looks a dive and obviously Afghanistan.

breezy1985 · 15-06-2021 10:24PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He is. Some people just prefer to stay at home.

Nice safe Irish pubs in Spain too.

Electric Sheep · 15-06-2021 10:32PM

kenmc wrote: »

Usa for me. Food is usually awful, processed deep fried crap. If I could never ever go back there, I'd die a happy man.

You ate in the wrong places.

breezy1985 · 15-06-2021 10:33PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

You ate in the wrong places.

Yes he did. The USA

15-06-2021 10:37PM

hot buttered scones wrote: »

That depends. How much are we talking here?

Indeed. That's what it really boils down to.

When asked to go to somewhere I'd no desire to see. First question always, "Whats the rate?", Have been known to change my mind. Never say never.

Mister Vain · 15-06-2021 10:43PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

Yes he did. The USA

I gained about 2 stone before I even got out of the airport.

15-06-2021 11:11PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

Nice safe Irish pubs in Spain too.

Notice he didn't exclude the traditional holiday spots? or northern Europe? Just covered pretty much anything outside of Europe.

Many people prefer to stay at home and not travel, except for their sun holiday with the kids, or a romp in Amsterdam for a smoke. Little interest in going further afield.

TCM · 15-06-2021 11:14PM

Nigeria.

16-06-2021 12:04AM

TCM wrote: »

Nigeria.

Apparently you can't really see it, even if you wanted to.

In Lagos, you are confined to an hotel, and you're advised not to leave your car (which needs to have a driver). Anyone venturing into the countryside has to hire private security.

Even if someone were paid to visit Nigeria, I'm not sure how much they'd ever get to see.

Nigeria is a somewhat interesting place, but visiting sounds like a complete waste of time.

It's also absurdly expensive. Nope.

OMM 0000 · 16-06-2021 06:14AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I've been tempted. There's tours going from China, all under the guidance of Chinese governmental services, but... N.Korea seems more than a little too unpredictable. It would be very interesting though.

I went through a Chinese tour.

The North Koreans tried very hard to make up happy. We were considered VIPs.

The guy who stole the poster: imagine a Canadian is in an Irish hotel and goes into the staff area, wanders around and then steals something. He might be arrested too. So it's not shocking the guy was arrested. Obviously his treatment was awful, but NK isn't a nice European democracy, it's a totalitarian dictatorship, so what did he expect?

The fact he even did something like that makes me think he was probably being a total **** on the tour up until then. My group were all totally respectful and kind and as a result we could pretty much do what we want, within reason.

Andrea B. · 16-06-2021 07:12AM

Laois.

Mister Vain · 16-06-2021 08:29AM

Andrea B. wrote: »

Laois.

You mean Laos?

ShatterAlan · 16-06-2021 09:00AM

jmreire wrote: »

India has been independant since 1947, more than 70 years ago, while Iran removed the Shah in 1979, President Nasser kicked out the western foreigners in 1956,what happened in Egypt since then, is entirely an internal Egyptian matter.
These countrys at least have not been subjected to Western interference in their affairs since those times. Democracy, as we know it in the West, is a foreign concept in the ME.

Is it now? And after Sadat was whacked and the Western puppet, Mubarak, was installed in 1981?

And I never mentioned India or Iran.

I merely mentioned that Egyptian corruption and tyranny isn't an "Egyptian thung" as another poster tried to maintain but a deliberate system of external interference just like in many other states.

But this isn't a political discussion so I'll leave it at that.

Esho · 16-06-2021 09:19AM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Apparently you can't really see it, even if you wanted to.

In Lagos, you are confined to an hotel, and you're advised not to leave your car (which needs to have a driver). Anyone venturing into the countryside has to hire private security.

Even if someone were paid to visit Nigeria, I'm not sure how much they'd ever get to see.

Nigeria is a somewhat interesting place, but visiting sounds like a complete waste of time.

It's also absurdly expensive. Nope.

My cuz went there for work. Accompanied by 2; large unsmiling guys with kalishnikovs when out and about. He was working in advertising,

Ash.J.Williams · 16-06-2021 09:21AM

cagefactor wrote: »

Spent some time in Ivory Coast, never again.

what's it like

Ash.J.Williams · 16-06-2021 09:24AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Saudi Arabia, unless it was an invasion force. The vast majority of Africa. Wouldn't mind going to Cape Town in South Africa for cricket or Kruger for the wildlife. Plus the odd wildlife places around the continent but generally wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

Bangladesh looks a dive and obviously Afghanistan.

tally ho

jmreire · 16-06-2021 09:53AM

OMM 0000 wrote: »

I went through a Chinese tour.

The North Koreans tried very hard to make up happy. We were considered VIPs.

The guy who stole the poster: imagine a Canadian is in an Irish hotel and goes into the staff area, wanders around and then steals something. He might be arrested too. So it's not shocking the guy was arrested. Obviously his treatment was awful, but NK isn't a nice European democracy, it's a totalitarian dictatorship, so what did he expect?

The fact he even did something like that makes me think he was probably being a total **** on the tour up until then. My group were all totally respectful and kind and as a result we could pretty much do what we want, within reason.

A colleague of mine worked there for 18 Mths, but when she started to understand and speak the language, they did not renew her visa and she had to leave.Sure she was monitored all the time, and was never without her translator / guard. But aside from that, she loved it and would return there in a heartbeat.

FinnC · 16-06-2021 09:54AM

AMKC wrote: »

Me I would not go to Turkey. I was there once and would never go again. I found the people rude and small minded as well as backwards.

Sounds like Roscommon

breezy1985 · 16-06-2021 10:13AM

FinnC wrote: »

Sounds like Roscommon

Both have very similar views on same sex marriage

Yurt2 · 16-06-2021 12:42PM

jmreire wrote: »

A colleague of mine worked there for 18 Mths, but when she started to understand and speak the language, they did not renew her visa and she had to leave.Sure she was monitored all the time, and was never without her translator / guard. But aside from that, she loved it and would return there in a heartbeat.

What was she doing there do you mind me asking? I know there is (was with covid) a small cohort of westerners working on aid projects as well as a sprinkling of people in the higher education sector at an American founded Christian university (if you can believe that).

kowloon · 16-06-2021 03:43PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Apparently you can't really see it, even if you wanted to.

In Lagos, you are confined to an hotel, and you're advised not to leave your car (which needs to have a driver). Anyone venturing into the countryside has to hire private security.

Even if someone were paid to visit Nigeria, I'm not sure how much they'd ever get to see.

Nigeria is a somewhat interesting place, but visiting sounds like a complete waste of time.

It's also absurdly expensive. Nope.

I never realised they were up there with North Korea and Turkmenistan. Has this been the case for long?

Esho · 16-06-2021 03:47PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

At the time of going to PNG a colleague and I had a choice, one had to go to PNG, the other the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

We tossed a coin for it.
At the time Port Moresby and Kinshasa were something like 2 and 3 on the worst cities to visit in the world list after Mogadishu.

I'd love your job!

Is there any country you would not go to even if you were paid to go there?

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