Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

Graham · 15-06-2021 08:50PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

That's what you call an alpha country. A real country that will last beyond out lifetimes.

Well that wins bizarre post of the week hands down.

Out of interest, which countries are you expecting to outlive?

Foxtrol · 15-06-2021 08:51PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Amazing to see a near full house in Hungary. A real testament to them as a country. It should be noted that they took the Russian vaccine when the EU said no. We were offered it in February but we're afraid to offend the EU.

That's what you call an alpha country. A real country that will last beyond out lifetimes.

Ignoring that weird 'alpha country' talk - wouldn't we be screwed for travel at this point if we'd gone that route? Are (m)any western countries accepting it as an approved vaccine for travel?

normanoffside · 15-06-2021 08:53PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Checked the dictionary, "unusual obsession with a man in his sixties" wasn't listed under banter.

Tony is 52 or 53

Sobit1964 · 15-06-2021 08:59PM

Graham wrote: »

Well that wins bizarre post of the week hands down.

Out of interest, which countries are you expecting to outlive?

Northern Ireland?

Silentcorner · 15-06-2021 08:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

How many times do you intend to be wrong? It was the behaviour of uefa post the incident that was referenced. Which is redolent of the way they behave in general. Trying to strong arm people into decisions because it suits uefa, not because it’s the right thing for the persons

You didn't reference anything of the sort...I directly quoted you earlier.

You were being snide in using an incident that had nothing to do with what was being discussed at the time...you were rightly called out for it.

If you want to start a thread about how UEFA then do so I'd gladly agree with how rotten they are.

15-06-2021 09:09PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

You didn't reference anything of the sort...I directly quoted you earlier.

You were being snide in using an incident that had nothing to do with what was being discussed at the time...you were rightly called out for it.

If you want to start a thread about how UEFA then do so I'd gladly agree with how rotten they are.

Yes you did quote me directly. And what on Saturday evening was attributable to uefa? The tactics they used to strongarm denmark into making a decision that suited uefa while their teammate was being rushed to hospital. That is the incident to which I referred. And it was relevant because to the thread because we decided as a country they we weren’t going to base our decisions on uefa ultimatums

Silentcorner · 15-06-2021 09:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes you did quote me directly. And what on Saturday evening was attributable to uefa? The tactics they used to strongarm denmark into making a decision that suited uefa while their teammate was being rushed to hospital. That is the incident to which I referred. And it was relevant because to the thread because we decided as a country they we weren’t going to base our decisions on uefa ultimatums

All of which has nothing to do with the crowds back in the stadiums which was the context of the discussion that you slipped that snide comment into....

JP Liz V1 · 15-06-2021 09:12PM

Sandymount to be partly pedestrianised for July and August

gozunda · 15-06-2021 09:20PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Amazing to see a near full house in Hungary. A real testament to them as a country. It should be noted that they took the Russian vaccine when the EU said no. We were offered it in February but we're afraid to offend the EU.

That's what you call an alpha country. A real country that will last beyond out lifetimes.

It is yeah. Hungary has approx 3 times our death rate despite using the Russian vaccine. A country which is now subject to an unlimited rule by decree and where people can be jailed for wrong think. A real alpha country alright.

15-06-2021 09:20PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

All of which has nothing to do with the crowds back in the stadiums which was the context of the discussion that you slipped that snide comment into....

The context of the discussion was Ireland making our own choice and not being subject to uefa ultimatums

Silentcorner · 15-06-2021 09:27PM

gozunda wrote: »

It is yeah. Hungary has approx 3 times our death rate despite using the Russian vaccine. A country which is now subject to an unlimited rule by decree and where people can be jailed for wrong think. A real alpha country alright.

And yet they have enjoyed a lot more civil liberties than we have here...

Sobit1964 · 15-06-2021 09:31PM

gozunda wrote: »

It is yeah. Hungary has approx 3 times our death rate despite using the Russian vaccine. A country which is now subject to an unlimited rule by decree and where people can be jailed for wrong think. A real alpha country alright.

Dahm, I hear they even send grannies to jail for not wearing facemasks or paying tributes to the party media outlet. Rumour has it you can be thrown into military jail for not being from an approved location, and that attempts to leave will see you turned around and hit with stiff penalties.

That place sounds like a real alpha hellhole alright.

Coillte_Bhoy · 15-06-2021 09:31PM

niallo27 wrote: »

What about Denmark, Germany, Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands, Romania, Spain, Azerbaijan, England, Russia and Scotland.

Ah yeah fair enough i suppose

paddyisreal · 15-06-2021 10:18PM

All the other countries are wrong...
Outdoor dining - last country to open in the world !
Euros - only country not able to host
Antigen testing - only country in Europe to have a health service against them .
Masks - while every other country were using them we were told they weren't needed because we couldnt use them properly , sounds a bit familiar regarding the antigen testing doesn't it ?

At the end of the day, a bunch of over paid spoofers (nphet and the government ) who are afraid to make a decision ..

prunudo · 15-06-2021 10:22PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Tony is 52 or 53

Really, the pressures of being cmo haven't been kind to him. Would easily have put him in his 60s

paddyisreal · 15-06-2021 10:29PM

prunudo wrote: »

Really, the pressures of being cmo haven't been kind to him. Would easily have put him in his 60s

Look at all the dictators down through history they all look older than they are !

15-06-2021 10:41PM

This thread never fails to amuse. Keep it up, lads.

gozunda · 15-06-2021 11:13PM

Responder XY wrote: »

On the basis that everyone else has arrived at a different conclusion with the same set of circumstances.

Let's not fool ourselves and think that the Irish Public Health team are uniquely better than the public health experts in the rest of Europe

Well yes I'd agree - individual countries approaches to managing the pandemic have varied widely

But no I don't believe that "Irish Public Health team are uniquely better than the public health experts in the rest of Europe"

But that said we've done fairly well all the same. That could all just be a fluke of course ...

https://i.imgflip.com/5dek78.jpg

Richard Hillman · 15-06-2021 11:26PM

gozunda wrote: »

It is yeah. Hungary has approx 3 times our death rate despite using the Russian vaccine. A country which is now subject to an unlimited rule by decree and where people can be jailed for wrong think. A real alpha country alright.

You mean a country where one guy decides how everyone lives and what freedoms you have and if you protest against it or ignore the rules, they'll send the police force out to shut it down.

Yeah, mate. I know all about it.

zackory · 15-06-2021 11:40PM

gozunda wrote: »

That could all just be a fluke of course ...

Or it could be credited to the people following restrictions when they were necessary and warranted, like in January and perhaps February. Restrictions I don't think anybody on here disputed.

But the endless "slow and cautious" since March, I don't see what gains were achieved there.

gozunda · 15-06-2021 11:48PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

You mean a country where one guy decides how everyone lives and what freedoms you have and if you protest against it or ignore the rules, they'll send the police force out to shut it down.
Yeah, mate. I know all about it.

Do you mean the evil 'Tony' much beloved of this thread? Or Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán (where the death rate is 3x here) - whose political best mate is China's President Xi Jinping - that other bastion of democracy and personal freedom?

Timmy O Toole · 16-06-2021 01:54AM

Interesting numbers. 46k caravans in 1 month.

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1404844458873606148?s=19

Sobit1964 · 16-06-2021 06:23AM

gozunda wrote: »

Do you mean the evil 'Tony' much beloved of this thread? Or Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán (where the death rate is 3x here) - whose political best mate is China's President Xi Jinping - that other bastion of democracy and personal freedom?

Orbans best political mate is China? Really? You live in some odd fantasy world.

Lets go further - Im assuming that China is bad from your post, but in our liberal democracies using their lockdown methods is a good thing according to your never ending stream of guff on this thread.

Its amazing you manage to deal with this level of cognitive dissonance.

JRant · 16-06-2021 07:27AM

gozunda wrote: »

Well yes I'd agree - individual countries approaches to managing the pandemic have varied widely

But no I don't believe that "Irish Public Health team are uniquely better than the public health experts in the rest of Europe"

But that said we've done fairly well all the same. That could all just be a fluke of course ...

https://i.imgflip.com/5dek78.jpg

Half a million people out of work, over 1 million people on waiting lists for hospital appointments, yeah, it was a roaring success.

Severe restrictions on peoples lives for prolonged periods of time is not something we should be giving ourselves a pat on the back for.

Boggles · 16-06-2021 08:35AM

JRant wrote: »

Half a million people out of work, over 1 million people on waiting lists for hospital appointments, yeah, it was a roaring success.

Severe restrictions on peoples lives for prolonged periods of time is not something we should be giving ourselves a pat on the back for.

Restrictions are a mitigation measure which invariable send less people to hospital.

Is it your contention that we could have decreased hospital waiting list times with less restrictions?

suicide_circus · 16-06-2021 08:35AM

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/education/revealed-grim-toll-of-the-covid-19-pandemic-onour-children-40544749.html

Ombudsman for children talking of the brutal impact of the pandemic on children. No sorry, the disease was pretty much harmless to children. It was the calculated decision to follow a policy of lengthy blanket lockdowns that has hit children. We cannot allow the waters to be muddied on this one.

zackory · 16-06-2021 08:41AM

Deleted User wrote: »

And it was relevant because to the thread because we decided as a country they we weren’t going to base our decisions on uefa ultimatums

So all the other countries imploded in the face of UEFA ultimatums and brave Ireland stood up to them.

pjohnson · 16-06-2021 08:43AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/education/revealed-grim-toll-of-the-covid-19-pandemic-onour-children-40544749.html

Ombudsman for children talking of the brutal impact of the pandemic on children. No sorry, the disease was pretty much harmless to children. It was the calculated decision to follow a policy of lengthy blanket lockdowns that has hit children. We cannot allow the waters to be muddied on this one.

Then why are you muddying them?

Boggles · 16-06-2021 08:44AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/education/revealed-grim-toll-of-the-covid-19-pandemic-onour-children-40544749.html

Ombudsman for children talking of the brutal impact of the pandemic on children. No sorry, the disease was pretty much harmless to children. It was the calculated decision to follow a policy of lengthy blanket lockdowns that has hit children. We cannot allow the waters to be muddied on this one.

The mad thing about children is they virtually all live with other people.

It's traditionally called a family.

suicide_circus · 16-06-2021 08:46AM

What in my post is wrong?

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