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Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

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  • Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think those in the next group, myself included will be waiting a fair while for their first jab. Being optimistic we can register next week and then with all the second shots needed for other groups it will surely be around 3 weeks from registration, that brings us to the middle of July!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Hurrache wrote: »
    It's not, I saw a graph yesterday and it's pretty high.

    Donnelly linked to the EU vaccine portal so I assume it's fairly up to date.

    It says 34.9% with one dose in the 25-49 age group, in which we have 1.75m people, so that's 610k people.

    In the 40-49 group there are 750k people.

    610/750 = 81%. OK, so that's not bad since there are still people waiting.

    https://vaccinetracker.ecdc.europa.eu/public/extensions/COVID-19/vaccine-tracker.html#age-group-tab


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    I wouldn't argue that it's a tactic to keep excessive restrictions in place to help keep the vaccine programme ticking over

    If restrictions were eased like they should be the younger cohorts wouldnt bother getting one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭mossie


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    How long was that since your first?

    Exactly 28 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 745 ✭✭✭ClosedAccountFuzzy


    Lookin for more of an uptake in that age group? How long does that go on while other people in the younger categories are left waiting and longer exposed to covid cos Johnny and Mary in their 40's can't be bothered to take the vaccine? Roll it out and be done. The people in their 40's can still register if they want to.
    Government givin out about the hoards of people gathering outdoors on a sunny day but yet hold up the roll out to the people who are doing the gathering. Vaccinate em and let them gather

    https://healthservice.hse.ie/staff/n...e-11-june.html

    Know two people in Cork register since the very earliest possible date born 1979 and 1981 and neither have had an appointment offered yet.

    They going flat out vaccinating. The 35-45 age band is the largest grouping in Ireland. It’s not going to go as fast as the previous age groups because there are huge numbers of people.

    The lower end of the 30s and into the 20s is a smaller population.

    You’re making rather unfair and inaccurate assumptions that people aren’t registering. The opposite would seem to be the case.

    I’m aware of people born in 1977 and 1976, also registered from the start, who will be getting their first doses later this week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Galego


    mossie wrote: »
    Exactly 28 days.

    Is it 28 days counting the day which you had your first dose?

    Just curious. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    822158Kid wrote: »
    Hi all, anyone had to change their Vaccination centre for the 2nd Vaccine? I am hoping to change to Galway for the 2nd one. Just heading to get my first shot this evening in Dublin.
    That sounds like a call to the helpline and ask them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭RavenBea17b


    So those who are vaccinated with AZ are twice (8%) as likely to end up in hospital that those who received Pfizer (4%).

    AZ t-cell production is increased when comparing to Pfizer, so long term build up of antibodies.
    Indeed, AZ may well be higher than 92% as further study and slow burn continues.

    The main goal is they both do the job they were designed to do. It is great news that they work well against the Delta variant. Hence the importance of2nd jabs.

    Anyone seen anything about Janssen and Moderna figures, -I may have missed results published..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,146 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    astrofool wrote: »
    Ignore the papers, go directly to the source for information, the papers are woeful at the moment.

    Mills was on the radio this morning putting fear into people about the adenovirus vaccine vector with the take away being that the second shot of AZ was less effective then the first :confused:

    That just isn't true and they've conflated immunity to the adenovirus itself (which could happen after many doses, they're not sure yet but it's more than 2 and they can vary the adenovirus anyway) vs. a 2 dose vaccine regimen that has a very proven high efficacy and effectiveness.
    What's going on with Kingston Mills lately? He seems to have a real bee in his bonnet over AZ. Did he not see the PHE report yesterday evening, which categorically stated that the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is 92% effective against hospitalisation after 2 doses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭mossie


    Galego wrote: »
    Is it 28 days counting the day which you had your first dose?

    Just curious. Thanks

    My first was Monday 17 May 14.05, second Monday 14 June 14.55.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Stevek101 wrote: »
    Again the media raised hopes based on completely unconfirmed decisions. Sure it's the FF party but they do have access to better sources, i.e. MoH. TBH I don't get the angst about this at all as there are numerous balls to juggle in the air for the programme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,243 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Lookin for more of an uptake in that age group? How long does that go on while other people in the younger categories are left waiting and longer exposed to covid cos Johnny and Mary in their 40's can't be bothered to take the vaccine? Roll it out and be done. The people in their 40's can still register if they want to.
    Government givin out about the hoards of people gathering outdoors on a sunny day but yet hold up the roll out to the people who are doing the gathering. Vaccinate em and let them gather

    https://healthservice.hse.ie/staff/n...e-11-june.html

    I don't believe for one second there is a slow uptake in the current cohort. They seem to have been spooked by the Delta variant and have shifted priority to second doses. In my extended group of friends ranging from 40-43 none have been called yet on the Northside of the city. If there was a low uptake appointments would have been given by now for those years.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Donnelly just posted 56% with first doses and 25% fully vaccinated. 3.2 million doses so far. 30-39 opening soon but no date. 300k jabs to be giving this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Donnelly just posted 56% with first doses and 25% fully vaccinated. 3.2 million doses so far. 30-39 opening soon but no date. 300k jabs to be giving this week.

    https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1404735946961080321


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    How long do we reckon it will take to get through 30-39? Would we say early July is game on for 20/29 age cohort registration to open?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    How long do we reckon it will take to get through 30-39? Would we say early July is game on for 20/29 age cohort registration to open?
    Might be mid-July now. All down to supplies as usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭JPup


    Stevek101 wrote: »

    Where's the mixed messaging there? FF saying on the 10th that registration would open by the end of this week. The latest update today (as reported in the Irish Times) is that it will happen by Monday at the latest.

    The consistent message for the last week for so has been that 30 somethings could start registering around the end of this week. I don't see any mixed messaging there.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Was it about 60% first doses that Israel saw a drop in cases?

    Our cases aren't too high anyway, so may take a bit more to have an impact.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    Was it about 60% first doses that Israel saw a drop in cases?

    Our cases aren't too high anyway, so may take a bit more to have an impact.

    Our case numbers fell by 22% over the past week (7 day average fell from 406 to 315)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    Was it about 60% first doses that Israel saw a drop in cases?

    Mid fifties % of total population.

    Our 56% of adult population is about 42% of total population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭zebastein


    Donnelly just posted 56% with first doses and 25% fully vaccinated. 3.2 million doses so far. 30-39 opening soon but no date. 300k jabs to be giving this week.

    Donnelly is good at sending numbers that are outdated.

    We had 50% adults vaccinated end of may
    We were aiming at 80% end of june, so the maths is simple: you need to increase 1% per day.

    3rd june: 53% reached (https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/almost-2-9-million-vaccinations-administered-in-ireland-1137109.html)
    7th june: 55% reached (https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40308176.html)
    9th june: 57% reached, 3.1millions doses given overall (https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/rollout/).

    And now we are the 6 days later, and Donnelly posts about 56% vaccinated. :rolleyes:

    The site of the ECDC gives us at 58.6% adults vaccinated first dose. That is still not amazing, only 8.6% done in half a month, so we'd finish the month at "only" 66-67% at this rate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I just got my hopefully only but I suppose it could be first vaccine appointment. They rang me which I thought was strange as I had heard they text you and I would have preferred a text. I only registered was it last Tuesday.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,262 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    AMKC wrote: »
    I just got my hopefully only but I suppose it could be first vaccine appointment. They rang me which I thought was strange as I had heard they text you and I would have preferred a text. I only registered was it last Tuesday.

    Did the GP ring or who rang ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    Sorry if asked before but where is the best place to park for Aviva?
    Is it Gate 8 to aim for?
    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    mathie wrote: »
    Sorry if asked before but where is the best place to park for Aviva?
    Is it Gate 8 to aim for?
    thanks

    Underground car park. I'd never been there before but the satnav took me right there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    What's going on with Kingston Mills lately? He seems to have a real bee in his bonnet over AZ. Did he not see the PHE report yesterday evening, which categorically stated that the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is 92% effective against hospitalisation after 2 doses.

    I think he's had a bee in his bonnet about AZ all along. He's in the 60-69 cohort himself and the morning he was going for his first AZ shot, he was moaning on Morning Ireland. I am in that cohort, but when I hear him 'make a case' for us, I somehow just wish it was someone else talking, as I see him as someone having a vested interest.

    I was happy to get any vaccine at the time, but I did lose a bit of faith when it was suddenly announced that we could consider ourselves fully vaccinated four weeks after the first dose - I have yet to see any convincing scientific basis for that. But I was delighted to see that PHE report yesterday, and would happily wait the 12 weeks for my second shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    Stevek101 wrote: »

    Here's my theory on why they're waiting to open this age group.

    They were splitting the decades in half. One half 49-45, two weeks later it was 44-40.

    If they done the same with 30-39 year olds, it means 34-30 year olds will be registering on last day of June or early July.

    My theory is they will group the early 30s with the late 30s to make it look like they are moving down in age quickly. But they can't open it too quickly because it means some people will be waiting alot longer than the 3 weeks they say it should take to get the first vaccine shot. So they might open registration next week for this age group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,494 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    vienne86 wrote: »
    I think he's had a bee in his bonnet about AZ all along. He's in the 60-69 cohort himself and the morning he was going for his first AZ shot, he was moaning on Morning Ireland. I am in that cohort, but when I hear him 'make a case' for us, I somehow just wish it was someone else talking, as I see him as someone having a vested interest.

    I was happy to get any vaccine at the time, but I did lose a bit of faith when it was suddenly announced that we could consider ourselves fully vaccinated four weeks after the first dose - I have yet to see any convincing scientific basis for that. But I was delighted to see that PHE report yesterday, and would happily wait the 12 weeks for my second shot.

    The "vaccine bonus" dates seemed to be more based on human behavior than science (i.e. try and keep people isolating for 2 weeks after a shot but after that they're a lot less likely to hit severe issues), it's no surprise it's being walked back this soon and happens to coincide with about when the second shots are becoming due.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭RavenBea17b


    vienne86 wrote: »
    I think he's had a bee in his bonnet about AZ all along. He's in the 60-69 cohort himself and the morning he was going for his first AZ shot, he was moaning on Morning Ireland. I am in that cohort, but when I hear him 'make a case' for us, I somehow just wish it was someone else talking, as I see him as someone having a vested interest.

    I was happy to get any vaccine at the time, but I did lose a bit of faith when it was suddenly announced that we could consider ourselves fully vaccinated four weeks after the first dose - I have yet to see any convincing scientific basis for that. But I was delighted to see that PHE report yesterday, and would happily wait the 12 weeks for my second shot.

    Hhhmm, he does appear to have some sort of bee in his bonnet about AZ. We are all guilty at sometimes remembering how far we have come - quick to forget how desperate things were, never mind could have been - it's already been tragic enough as it is we needed vaccines and medications to help in the fight with Covid and long Covid. I must admit, I do not recall ever being told that we were fully vaccinated on one dose. AZ have been always been clear that two doses were needed. One dose would give strong protection, but the second was the key.


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