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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,638 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    JPA wrote: »
    A lot of people would have no clue what they are looking at when they see a supercharger.

    Yeah. The same people that don't know what a mobile phone looks like. Or what an ATM is for :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Unkel - was this today? As the owner of that boat claims to have been in Kerry all day today, and apparently sold their silver Audi a while back!!!!!!!

    I managed to find a guy who knows the owner…….


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,638 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Internet detective :cool:

    No it was way back in 2017 sometime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    unkel wrote: »
    Internet detective :cool:

    No it was way back in 2017 sometime

    Ah, fair enough.


    Know this though, that guy has just been reminded of that time he was an ass hat 4 years ago……


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,836 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    unkel wrote: »
    Yeah. The same people that don't know what a mobile phone looks like. Or what an ATM is for :p

    High chance they wouldn't have in 2017 anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭maidhc


    unkel wrote: »
    Internet detective :cool:

    No it was way back in 2017 sometime

    In fairness, the chances of a Tesla pulling in there four years ago was pretty remote!

    Seriously though ev drivers better get used to not having charging stations or having to use ones at “market price” shortly.

    I’ll probably change my diesel avensis this year. I can’t see any other option for me other than a Camry. (I despise suvs with all my heart, And I’ll only drive toyotas or mercs, and I’m not sure about the current mercs)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭sk8board


    unkel wrote: »
    Internet detective :cool:

    No it was way back in 2017 sometime

    Jeez, that pic is 4 years old??? Did you have it saved to Favourites or something.
    .
    Some people are assh0les. some people genuinely don’t see other people around them when they are out in the world. They only see themselves. accept it and move on. They don’t care what you think about them :)
    there’s no prizes for being the worlds policeman.
    .
    .
    Our local supermarket has parking spaces 20m from the door, and double yellows all the way up to the door itself (because it’s on a crossroads). guess where most people will park, some with the engine left running …?
    .
    some people are just assh0les and only see themselves in the world …


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    sk8board wrote: »
    Jeez, that pic is 4 years old??? Did you have it saved to Favourites or something.
    .
    Some people are assh0les. some people genuinely don’t see other people around them when they are out in the world. They only see themselves. accept it and move on. They don’t care what you think about them :)
    there’s no prizes for being the worlds policeman.
    .
    .
    Our local supermarket has parking spaces 20m from the door, and double yellows all the way up to the door itself (because it’s on a crossroads). guess where most people will park, some with the engine left running …?
    .
    some people are just assh0les and only see themselves in the world …

    Unfortunately you're correct, probability being what it is means more people = more gobsh!tes

    Still, bad behaviour need to be called out. People won't act the maggot if they don't think they'll get away with it

    I am getting a chuckle out of the idea that Unkel has that picture on a dartboard full of holes for whenever he needs something to hate :)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,638 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Just for the record, I took the picture because I found it amusing. I didn't even have a Tesla at the time. Cue a few years later, people posting pictures of the Tesla superchargers being ICEd, so I thought of that picture and dug it up

    Bad parking in general doesn't really bother me, I couldn't care less :p If I had a Tesla and needed a charge, I would have just driven over the curb to get to the charger :D


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I love the idea of yer man finally getting his comeuppance after 4 years, we'll find you eventually every single one you parking space blockers.


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah, fair enough.


    Know this though, that guy has just been reminded of that time he was an ass hat 4 years ago……
    A reminder to all that what goes on the internet, stays on the internet (unless you live in China).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I was at the Cliff's of Moher on Monday, and the guy checking us into the carpark immediately recognised the car as a Tesla so we had a brief chat about EV's (his friend had just recently collected an ID.4). I mentioned that a place like the Cliff's carpark would be an ideal spot for a bank of EV chargers, and he said that a plan was actually in the works to do just that.... so watch this space...

    Would make absolute sense for the likes of any touristy attraction type place where folks could easily spend 1-4 hours to have EV chargers there to attract folk in from afar..

    Relatively low cost to to install (chargers are free from Tesla), and potentially opening up to more visitors, and for longer periods if the carrot of free charging is dangled, and even if not free, still a great plus if it means people don't need to stop en-route for a charge...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    So we've bought a house in Dublin 6 with on street parking and no chance of the planning being permitted to convert the garden into a driveway (estate agent says no chance).

    Approximately 1 year of renovations needed so anyone who wants to buy a low mileage model 3 performance in a year drop me a PM!!

    Back to diesel. Must remember to tell the council that the refusal to allow a driveway where 1 car can be charged, to buying another diesel to park on the street must be a great idea for their "green" policies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,388 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    mfceiling wrote: »
    So we've bought a house in Dublin 6 with on street parking and no chance of the planning being permitted to convert the garden into a driveway (estate agent says no chance).

    Approximately 1 year of renovations needed so anyone who wants to buy a low mileage model 3 performance in a year drop me a PM!!

    Back to diesel. Must remember to tell the council that the refusal to allow a driveway where 1 car can be charged, to buying another diesel to park on the street must be a great idea for their "green" policies.

    Why would you need planning to sort a driveway? Is it to alter the footpath rather than your garden?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Back to diesel. Must remember to tell the council that the refusal to allow a driveway where 1 car can be charged, to buying another diesel to park on the street must be a great idea for their "green" policies.

    How dare you propose to use your own property to store metal boxes instead of storing it on public property!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭kop-end


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Why would you need planning to sort a driveway? Is it to alter the footpath rather than your garden?

    If the footpath needs to be ‘dished’ then he will need planning permission, architect drawings and to top it all off, €500 for the lads to come out and dish the footpath for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    Why would you need planning to sort a driveway? Is it to alter the footpath rather than your garden?

    Apparently one house on the row got planning and that was it!! The council say you have to be able to turn a car in the space (ample room as far as I'm concerned). I've no time for gardening as it is so I'd be more than happy to take out the shītty looking flowerbeds, get some nice gravel and kerbs down and install a charging point.
    There is paid parking directly outside the house even though it's not a place where anyone would need to be so the revenue each year would be minimal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Apparently one house on the row got planning and that was it!! The council say you have to be able to turn a car in the space (ample room as far as I'm concerned). I've no time for gardening as it is so I'd be more than happy to take out the shītty looking flowerbeds, get some nice gravel and kerbs down and install a charging point.
    There is paid parking directly outside the house even though it's not a place where anyone would need to be so the revenue each year would be minimal.

    I think I saw some house in South Dublin installed a turntable so they could have a driveway

    If you've a spare million that's an option :)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    I think I saw some house in South Dublin installed a turntable so they could have a driveway

    If you've a spare million that's an option :)

    If anyone would like to give me a million I'll take it!!

    Wife is convinced that the council will put chargers on the street lamps in the next couple of years. She hasn't a clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    mfceiling wrote: »
    If anyone would like to give me a million I'll take it!!

    Wife is convinced that the council will put chargers on the street lamps in the next couple of years. She hasn't a clue.

    I reckon you could take the council to court under the climate action bill for preventing you from being environmentally responsible

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    I think I saw some house in South Dublin installed a turntable so they could have a driveway

    If you've a spare million that's an option :)

    Probably would use as much leccy to operate that as to charge the car :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭kanuseeme


    Duckjob wrote: »
    Probably would use as much leccy to operate that as to charge the car :D

    Done a quick search, 240 v system the one I was looking at. so I doubt it would use that much electricity, balanced on a big bearing, a good push would turn it without electric.

    I seen a price for 15000 euro installed. DIY options also.

    Then there is cheap, https://www.iedepot.ie/car-wheel-dollies/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj8nhn46L8QIVA-ztCh1uewiDEAQYAiABEgKEc_D_BwE

    Not practical. :D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,724 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Could you not run a granny charger out to the car easily enough? How wide is the footpath outside the house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,638 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    mfceiling wrote: »
    So we've bought a house in Dublin 6 with on street parking and no chance of the planning being permitted to convert the garden into a driveway (estate agent says no chance).

    Approximately 1 year of renovations needed so anyone who wants to buy a low mileage model 3 performance in a year drop me a PM!!

    Back to diesel.

    Is there a CCS fast charger near you? Tesla Sandyford has got planning permission granted for a supercharger. For sure it will be up and running within a year. That's about a 15 min drive from you off peak? Your range is what, 400km? So you charge say once a week (when not on longer trips)?

    Instead of losing a lot on your car in depreciation (and going back to 20th century motoring :p) would you not give that a try to see if it's workable?

    Of course a SuC is several times more expensive than charging up at night rate at home, but still a good bit cheaper than petrol / diesel. Or could you get work charging? The last 6-12 months before COVID hit, every car park in every business park seemed to get a charger or two, this will keep continuing


  • Moderators Posts: 12,419 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    I was at the Cliff's of Moher on Monday, and the guy checking us into the carpark immediately recognised the car as a Tesla so we had a brief chat about EV's (his friend had just recently collected an ID.4). I mentioned that a place like the Cliff's carpark would be an ideal spot for a bank of EV chargers, and he said that a plan was actually in the works to do just that.... so watch this space...

    Would make absolute sense for the likes of any touristy attraction type place where folks could easily spend 1-4 hours to have EV chargers there to attract folk in from afar..

    Relatively low cost to to install (chargers are free from Tesla), and potentially opening up to more visitors, and for longer periods if the carrot of free charging is dangled, and even if not free, still a great plus if it means people don't need to stop en-route for a charge...

    Guarantee if I was at a place where I could spend multiple hours touristing and charge for free, I'd stay longer if it meant not having to fast charge en route. Consequently I'd likely spend more at said tourist destination (food, tours etc). There's a limit to how long I'd stay though. Don't understand why businesses aren't catching onto this. Fota wildlife is one I regular think should suss this out.


    IKEA and their 7kW unit comes to mind. It's not free, it's costly (after 2 hours) and it's slow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    I would be optimistic about it. If any consolation I have 2 EVs and no home charger. Recently got fast charger @work and even if is 6-8 times more expensive than for others @home it is still fine. In a year time the demand would be so high that the networks will pick up. Funny bit after two years the property management approached me to restart disussions about charger installation. Turned out one member was heavily opposing but recently sold. Amazes me how these decisions can be left to personal opinion. Who knows maybe DCC will do what Westminster borough does or maybe will take Amsterdam as model
    https://www.westminster.gov.uk/request-vehicle-charging-point
    https://www.electrive.com/2021/06/08/totalenergies-builds-2200-more-points-in-amsterdam/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Guarantee if I was at a place where I could spend multiple hours touristing and charge for free, I'd stay longer if it meant not having to fast charge en route. Consequently I'd likely spend more at said tourist destination (food, tours etc). There's a limit to how long I'd stay though. Don't understand why businesses aren't catching onto this. Fota wildlife is one I regular think should suss this out.


    IKEA and their 7kW unit comes to mind. It's not free, it's costly (after 2 hours) and it's slow.

    Glendalough and Powerscourt are two other obvious ones. You can easily spend half the day at either, enough to get a decent bit of charge on a 7kW unit

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    unkel wrote: »
    Is there a CCS fast charger near you? Tesla Sandyford has got planning permission granted for a supercharger. For sure it will be up and running within a year. That's about a 15 min drive from you off peak? Your range is what, 400km? So you charge say once a week (when not on longer trips)?

    Instead of losing a lot on your car in depreciation (and going back to 20th century motoring :p) would you not give that a try to see if it's workable?

    Of course a SuC is several times more expensive than charging up at night rate at home, but still a good bit cheaper than petrol / diesel. Or could you get work charging? The last 6-12 months before COVID hit, every car park in every business park seemed to get a charger or two, this will keep continuing

    I'd agree, currently I only need to charge my ID.4ID.4 once a week, even if I was commuting to work. Model 3 performance should do even better

    It's a hassle to live off public charging, but I'd give it a go for a few months before jumping back on the diesel train

    And who knows, maybe complaining to the council about their hostile attitude towards EV charging will get some traction :)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    MJohnston wrote: »
    Could you not run a granny charger out to the car easily enough? How wide is the footpath outside the house?

    Some clown will trip over it and sue you

    Best solution would be to park on the pavement right against the front gate, so no one can get past on the side with the charging cable :)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Best solution would be to park on the pavement right against the front gate

    I will remind you of the boards.ie charter, you cannot suggest people illegally park on the pavement.


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