Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

gmisk · 06-06-2021 10:41PM

I was in Smithfield square this afternoon for a few drinks, meeting good friends who I have only seen maybe once in last year, all had at least one jab.
I was in from about 4-7 great to see portaloos, well maintained etc. Only Oscars and The Generator were serving drinks, Boojum was opened as well. Oscars also serving food. Not busy at all enough seating about, zero sign of any trouble at all.
You can tell some work gone into getting things ready for Monday, seating and umbrellas etc ready to go.

06-06-2021 10:45PM

Great to see things coming back to some bit of normality. Really hope this is the end of it all, definitely couldn't cope mentally with a lockdown like we've just come out off next winter.

PTH2009 · 06-06-2021 10:49PM

tommybrees wrote: »

Great to see things coming back to some bit of normality. Really hope this is the end of it all, definitely couldn't cope mentally with a lockdown like we've just come out off next winter.

Yeah it would be very very tough

Found This particular lockdown very tough

06-06-2021 10:50PM

gmisk wrote: »

I was in Smithfield square this afternoon for a few drinks, meeting good friends who I have only seen maybe once in last year, all had at least one jab.
I was in from about 4-7 great to see portaloos, well maintained etc. Only Oscars and The Generator were serving drinks, Boojum was opened as well. Oscars also serving food. Not busy at all enough seating about, zero sign of any trouble at all.
You can tell some work gone into getting things ready for Monday, seating and umbrellas etc ready to go.

I might pop over to Oscar's tomorrow. cheers.

gozunda · 07-06-2021 12:21AM

GT89 wrote: »

Explain why a whole host of US states have lifted all restrictions such as Texas and Florida and haven't had mass outbreaks or deaths since they've opened up.

The US is no shining paragon when it comes to the number of deaths and cases per capita compared to many other developed countries.

But yeah Florida and Texas - funny how those individual states often get dragged up. Lets look at the figures in comparison to other US states -

New Cases
The CDC reported that in the US - Texas had the most new cases in the past 7 days with 8,851 confirmed cases

Florida was second with 8,741 confirmed new cases this 7 days,

Confirmed deaths
The most recent data from the US shows that Florida has also recorded the most COVID-19 deaths over the past 7 days with 273 reported deaths

Texas was second with 268 reported deaths,

Hospitalisation rate
The average number of people in hospitals each week per 100,000 people shows both Texas and Floida as currently having the highest rates of Hospitalisation in the US

Tbh the main thing that can be said for either of these states in the relatively high proportion of vaccination with approx 45% of the adult population vaccinated in Texas and 50% of the adult population vaccinated in Florida. But no as compared to other US states neither Texas nor Florida are doing that great tbh.

GT89 wrote: »

The vaccines are supposed to protect against the variants if they don't then the vaccines were pointless and we have to stop running from it and just accept.

So far what we know from the data the vaccines do indeed protect against known variants of concern. With the caveat that the Delta variant is best protected against by people having had received two doses.

It remains that the majority of individuals here have had only one dose of vaccine.

GT89 wrote: »

People in their 40s and 50s with no underlying conditions have now gotten the vaccine so saying not all elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated is incorrect. Time to stop running from the virus and just accept it and get on with life it isn't gonna overwhelm the health service anymore.

Those in the 50 age cohort have received their first vaccines dose. The 40 age cohort are in the process of currently getting their first dose and indications are that just under half of that group have had their first vaccination dose.

But while it is correct to say that whilst the majority of the elderly have been fully vaccinated- many of those in the at risk categories - groups 4 and 7 have only received one dose - with group 7 are still being catered for in the MVC after many GPS had stopped their vaccination programmes.

And thats where we are at.

dodzy · 07-06-2021 09:14AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure the opening of outdoor stuff tomorrow will deter the scrotes, but I'm happy to be wrong.

I expect there'll be another bunch of lads causing trouble tomorrow who'll need to be knocked around the head. And the faux outrage will ensue again.

It won’t; the vast majority of wanker videos I’ve seen in recent days were primarily of scrotes people that would be either too young to get into a pub or older tracksuit-clad / wifebeater wearing skanks who wouldn’t ever pay north of a fiver a pint (think the Galahad brigade)

Graham · 07-06-2021 09:55AM

Today is a bit of a milestone day for us with the return of outdoor service for bars and restaurants. Even the weather looks like it's going to cooperate.

Slightly less reported is the reopening of gyms, swimming pools and leisure centres.

I hope everyone gets to enjoy some of the above today, we couldn't ask for a better day for it.

FlubberJones · 07-06-2021 10:44AM

Graham wrote: »

Today is a bit of a milestone day for us with the return of outdoor service for bars and restaurants. Even the weather looks like it's going to cooperate.

Slightly less reported is the reopening of gyms, swimming pools and leisure centres.

I hope everyone gets to enjoy some of the above today, we couldn't ask for a better day for it.

I'm pleased to be looking forward to the gym more than the pub..... Although I will see the pub sometime soon.

*I've drunk enough on this lockdown, way past time to get my strength and muscle back.

hatrickpatrick · 07-06-2021 12:37PM

Graham wrote: »

Today is a bit of a milestone day for us with the return of outdoor service for bars and restaurants. Even the weather looks like it's going to cooperate.

Slightly less reported is the reopening of gyms, swimming pools and leisure centres.

I hope everyone gets to enjoy some of the above today, we couldn't ask for a better day for it.

First things I'm doing this week are going to the cinema (A Quiet Place II), having an outdoor pint afterwards, and seeing which gym in Dun Laoghaire currently offers the best value membership. Happy days indeed!

namloc1980 · 07-06-2021 01:48PM

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Guidelines for reopening sports grounds. Walk/cycle where possible, no testing needed.

Beanybabog · 07-06-2021 02:58PM

I forgot all about outdoor dining opening but when I was up with the baby I coped it and figured I was too late to get anything. I found our local gastropub had a table left for an early lunch, which suits us anyway with 2 preschoolers and a baby. We ran down and had a lovely lunch. I wasn’t excited by the reopening announcements as we’ve been here before and I just couldn’t believe we won’t end up locked down again at some stage, but I have to say it was magic to get out. I missed the entire level 3 in December because I was due a baby right then so ive been in level 5 forever! I’m already on Google wondering where else I can go during the week for lunch :-) Today is a good day

pottokblue · 07-06-2021 03:08PM

The portaloos were open this morning and templebar looked relatively clean and tidy this morning after the weekend but I couldnt find an outdoors venue for breakfast this midmorning 930 am. IMO Dubtown is not an outdoors town but a mixed in/out town so I'm looking forward to 28days and more relax of restrictions. France are easing up their curfew from 21 to 23....

gozunda · 07-06-2021 03:12PM

Suspiciously quiet here today - would I be wrong in thinking the majority of "open de pubs now" people are out celebrating ? :pac:

RGS · 07-06-2021 03:17PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

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Guidelines for reopening sports grounds. Walk/cycle where possible, no testing needed.

What decade are those 12 apostles, all men, living in. WALK OR CYCLE to the venue.
Cant see many from any of the camogie finalist cycling to croker.

Graham · 07-06-2021 03:50PM

gozunda wrote: »

the majority of "open de pubs now" people are out celebrating ?

I hope there's a lot more than that out enjoying the day, unfortunately I'm going to be stuck at my desk for a while longer yet.

hynesie08 · 07-06-2021 04:11PM

RGS wrote: »

What decade are those 12 apostles, all men, living in. WALK OR CYCLE to the venue.
Cant see many from any of the camogie finalist cycling to croker.

Good thing they put in the caveat if possible then isn't it.

PTH2009 · 07-06-2021 04:34PM

Let's hope hospitality stays open from now on and no more lockdowns open lockdowns open

Foxtrol · 07-06-2021 08:19PM

gozunda wrote: »

The US is no shining paragon when it comes to the number of deaths and cases per capita compared to many other developed countries.

But yeah Florida and Texas - funny how those individual states often get dragged up. Lets look at the figures in comparison to other US states -

New Cases
The CDC reported that in the US - Texas had the most new cases in the past 7 days with 8,851 confirmed cases

Florida was second with 8,741 confirmed new cases this 7 days,

Confirmed deaths
The most recent data from the US shows that Florida has also recorded the most COVID-19 deaths over the past 7 days with 273 reported deaths

Texas was second with 268 reported deaths,

Hospitalisation rate
The average number of people in hospitals each week per 100,000 people shows both Texas and Floida as currently having the highest rates of Hospitalisation in the US

Tbh the main thing that can be said for either of these states in the relatively high proportion of vaccination with approx 45% of the adult population vaccinated in Texas and 50% of the adult population vaccinated in Florida. But no as compared to other US states neither Texas nor Florida are doing that great tbh.

Texas and Florida are poor examples of US states due to their client and that they've been cooking their books, especially Florida.

Sure the US got plenty of things wrong but so did Ireland despite the ultra caution. When you look across the US and their results it is clear that Ireland has been unnecessary in elements of this caution. For example, most US States kept outdoor dining open for most of the pandemic and it had minimal outbreaks linked to it, while Ireland is only opening it up today.

I wouldn't be surprised if this in part had to do with the likely clamour for indoor dining by pubs/restaurants as soon as outdoor began and it potentially being easier to keep everything shut than deal with the moans from some (like I've seen in some threads) about having to eat/drink outside in 'Irish weather', despite people well able to deal with eating outdoors all over the world in far worse weather.

The a big problem in these discussions is that many who want to see the country stay shut have conflated all guidance as being supported by science, when it clearly isn't (like the slowness to mask, refusal to use antigen testing, slowness to open up to those fully vaccinated).

MOH · 07-06-2021 08:57PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

Thank you, appreciated. But I was talking to someone else.

That would be a text message. This is a public forum.

paddyisreal · 07-06-2021 09:39PM

Euros starting this weekend and another embarrassment for our embedded overseers.. while London, Berlin,Rome,Paris etc showcase their culture and heritage to a world audience.. we are the last in the world to open outdoor dining, cinemas etc

07-06-2021 10:45PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

Euros starting this weekend and another embarrassment for our embedded overseers.. while London, Berlin,Rome,Paris etc showcase their culture and heritage to a world audience.. we are the last in the world to open outdoor dining, cinemas etc

Yawn.

gozunda · 07-06-2021 10:54PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Texas and Florida are poor examples of US states due to their client and that they've been cooking their books, especially Florida.

Sure the US got plenty of things wrong but so did Ireland despite the ultra caution. When you look across the US and their results it is clear that Ireland has been unnecessary in elements of this caution. For example, most US States kept outdoor dining open for most of the pandemic and it had minimal outbreaks linked to it, while Ireland is only opening it up today.

I wouldn't be surprised if this in part had to do with the likely clamour for indoor dining by pubs/restaurants as soon as outdoor began and it potentially being easier to keep everything shut than deal with the moans from some (like I've seen in some threads) about having to eat/drink outside in 'Irish weather', despite people well able to deal with eating outdoors all over the world in far worse weather.

The a big problem in these discussions is that many who want to see the country stay shut have conflated all guidance as being supported by science, when it clearly isn't (like the slowness to mask, refusal to use antigen testing, slowness to open up to those fully vaccinated).

Agreed Florida and Texas are not the poster childs some seem to think - hence the comment.

Dont believe the discussion was about "outdoor dining"? But that's an interesting statement saying "outdoor dining" in the US and Ireland "getting it wrong"? With regard to that conclusion - such simple comparisons are not possible - but the wider issue has always been about keeping the infection rate down - which Ireland has done very successfully and in comparison - many US stats have not.

Outside of that topic - I know of no one who wishes for the "country to stay shut" or similar.

Changes in guidance on masks, issues regarding self administered antigen tests are very distinct and seperate issues btw. But if you wish to discuss that - then ok.

martingriff · 07-06-2021 11:54PM

gozunda wrote: »

Agreed Florida and Texas are not the poster childs some seem to think - hence the comment.

As for something like "outdoor dining" in the US and Ireland "getting it wrong"? With regard to that conclusion - comparable statistics are simply not available regarding resulting outbreaks or otherwise - but the wider issue has always been about keeping the infection rate down - which Ireland has done very successfully and in comparison - many US stats have not.

Outside of that topic - I know of no one who wishes for the "country to stay shut" or similar.

Changes in guidance on masks, issues regarding self administered antigen tests are very distinct and seperate issues btw. But if you wish to discuss that - then ok.

What I have seen of outdoor events (Indy 500 and some soccer matches) they seem to be run well. Indy had a 1/3 capacity i think 135,000 from a max capacity of 400K. Everyone had to wear masks unless fully vaccinated (I am sure once in stands hard to police). Soccer grounds had vaccinated seating for those fully vaccinated

charlie14 · 07-06-2021 11:57PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Texas and Florida are poor examples of US states due to their client and that they've been cooking their books, especially Florida.

Sure the US got plenty of things wrong but so did Ireland despite the ultra caution. When you look across the US and their results it is clear that Ireland has been unnecessary in elements of this caution. For example, most US States kept outdoor dining open for most of the pandemic and it had minimal outbreaks linked to it, while Ireland is only opening it up today.

I wouldn't be surprised if this in part had to do with the likely clamour for indoor dining by pubs/restaurants as soon as outdoor began and it potentially being easier to keep everything shut than deal with the moans from some (like I've seen in some threads) about having to eat/drink outside in 'Irish weather', despite people well able to deal with eating outdoors all over the world in far worse weather.

The a big problem in these discussions is that many who want to see the country stay shut have conflated all guidance as being supported by science, when it clearly isn't (like the slowness to mask, refusal to use antigen testing, slowness to open up to those fully vaccinated).

The wind around here doesn`t take long to change.
Short time ago we were being told we were crazy for not copying Florida and Texas.

martingriff · 08-06-2021 12:01AM

paddyisreal wrote: »

Euros starting this weekend and another embarrassment for our embedded overseers.. while London, Berlin,Rome,Paris etc showcase their culture and heritage to a world audience.. we are the last in the world to open outdoor dining, cinemas etc

Is this England where hospitalizations are up and the government have now come out and said they proposed full opening up may now not happen. Given what we have seen with the youth in Dublin the last couple of weekends it is a god send we are not allowing people in yet

08-06-2021 12:09AM

Graham wrote: »

Today is a bit of a milestone day for us with the return of outdoor service for bars and restaurants. Even the weather looks like it's going to cooperate.

Slightly less reported is the reopening of gyms, swimming pools and leisure centres.

I hope everyone gets to enjoy some of the above today, we couldn't ask for a better day for it.

Two days ago:

Graham wrote: »

Probably sensible not to put it all at risk because a few muppets can't wait another couple of weeks to drink in a beer garden/pub.

Lol

PTH2009 · 08-06-2021 12:09AM

I'm guessing the buzz we all have tonight will be short lived

Variants

England panic and talk of them delaying the big last reopen

New normal

gozunda · 08-06-2021 12:20AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

I'm guessing the buzz we all have tonight will be short lived

Variants

England panic and talk of them delaying the big last reopen

New normal

Well no that's the UK. And the UK going to do what the UK are going to do.

They messed up with the outbreak of the Kent variant in December 2020. Maybe they've learned from that. You never know.

https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/UK-VARIANT/ygdpzgblxvw/

Chivito550 · 08-06-2021 12:24AM

Just back from 3 days in Northern Ireland. Cracking weather, great scenery, and lots of delicious indoor food and lovely indoor pints.

The best bit of it all? I visited 8 different restaurants/pubs over the 3 days for lunch/dinner/pints and not once did I have to give my name and phone number for this contact tracing lark.

I went for a training session on an athletics track. Just paid my £4 and in I go. Again, no personal information provided. It was magnificent.

When I'm training on the track at Irishtown in Dublin during our club training slot, if I want to use the damn toilet I have to sign my name and number. No thanks, I'll use the park outside so.

I'm back in the Developing World now, but it was fun while it lasted.

I see not much has changed here - the same few posters churning out triple figure posts per day!

PTH2009 · 08-06-2021 12:39AM

gozunda wrote: »

Well no that's the UK. And the UK going to do what the UK are going to do.

They messed up with the outbreak of the Kent variant in December 2020. Maybe they've learned from that. You never know.

https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS/UK-VARIANT/ygdpzgblxvw/

That was a new virus

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