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Dublin - Metrolink (Swords to Charlemont only)

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    To be fair, he's right that there wasn't a public consultation done for the line as it now stands. (On the back of the last consultation, it was decided to substantially alter it to its current design.) But consultations exist to smooth over fine details, not to consider the public's suggestions of grand alternatives. And, anyway, as we all know, the NTA still expects to upgrade the Green Line south of Charlemont in a decade or two. Perhaps the NTA has brought this on itself by being so coy about its future intentions.

    But it is not proposing to terminate the line just north of Beechwood. It is proposing to stop the tunnel just north of Beechwood.

    This thread terminates at Charlemont, as do the current proposals.


  • #2


    To be fair, he's right that there wasn't a public consultation done for the line as it now stands. (On the back of the last consultation, it was decided to substantially alter it to its current design.) But consultations exist to smooth over fine details, not to consider the public's suggestions of grand alternatives. And, anyway, as we all know, the NTA still expects to upgrade the Green Line south of Charlemont in a decade or two. Perhaps the NTA has brought this on itself by being so coy about its future intentions.

    Just to be clear there were two consultations on the Metrolink route:

    The first was in March 2018 which was the on the Emerging Preferred Route of a line from Swords to Sandyford.

    The second was in March 2019 which was the Preferred Route which was for the proposal as now stands which is for Metrolink to run from Swords-Charlemont, but with the tunnel continuing further south to between Ranelagh and Beechwood.

    So the letter writer is wrong. The current proposal which is about to go to ABP was consulted on in March 2019.

    https://www.metrolink.ie/assets/downloads/Public_Consultation_Document_for_the_Preferred_Route_HR.pdf

    See page 30 of the above document for a map which is the consultation from March 2019.


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    To be fair, he's right that there wasn't a public consultation done for the line as it now stands.

    He's not right.

    (why the IT feels the need to publish badly informed letters is another question)


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    D.L.R. wrote: »

    (why the IT feels the need to publish badly informed letters is another question)

    I suspect there is a high incidence of trustees and columnists living in proximity to the Green Line in Ranelagh.

    And they must cycle into Tara St as if they planned on getting the Luas they'd have no hope getting on at Beechwood in the normal times.


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    it was decided to substantially alter it to its current design

    The only change in design between the first and second version of Metrolink is the location of the Tunnel Portal and Tie in Location with the Green Line.

    V2 is the line from Swords to Charlemont, with the tunnel continuing to north of Beechwood, which is the location of the future tie-in location.

    The line is being designed with the intention to link it to the Green Line at a later date.

    That's why journalists should be banned from using the word SHELVED or ABANDONED. Neither accurate reflects. The project was split into two phases.


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    donvito99 wrote: »
    And they must cycle into Tara St as if they planned on getting the Luas they'd have no hope getting on at Beechwood in the normal times.

    Newspaper working day starts and ends later than a normal working day.


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    Despite numerous candidates in Dublin Bay South saying some version of we should divert this and divert that.
    And groups like Rethink Metrolink and "Metro South West" calling for the project to be capped an begun again...

    The Minister for State for Transport, Hildegarde Naughton has confirmed that Metrolink will go to Charlemont.
    A feasibility study into possible options after that will be considered as part of the Transport Strategy next year, but the alignment will not be altered to make any of those options easier or harder.

    https://twitter.com/DublinCommuters/status/1412367192054808580


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    Any update on when they are submitting the Railway Order, I know it was originally due at end Q2 (last week) but that was missed.

    Supposedly, when that is submitted we are 12-18 months from construction starting.


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    1huge1 wrote: »
    Any update on when they are submitting the Railway Order, I know it was originally due at end Q2 (last week) but that was missed.

    Supposedly, when that is submitted we are 12-18 months from construction starting.

    The Project is with the Department of transport now, they're doing their final checks to make sure the project adheres to the public spending code, then it goes to ABP.

    They anticipate the end of this month.


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