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An Garda Síochána - COVID19

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,335 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Mimon wrote: »
    Common sense, decency and a little forward planning would dictate that you meet your friends somewhere you can have a slash or if it comes to it a sh!te.

    Being caught out and having to piss in an alley way has happened to most of us but actually going to a place where there are a couple of thousand people with no toilet facilities is braindead, again personal responsibility/a bit of feckin cop on.

    Yes, and policing by consent does not mean a free for all with everyone making up their own rules based on their own personal requirements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    silverharp wrote: »


    It's always interesting to see the differences between Boards and Reddit Ireland (almost 400,000 subscribers)

    3 of the most upvoted comments in the thread about this

    It's not like they showed up and went straight to baton charge.

    Attempts to disperse the crowd were unsuccessful and resulted in them being pelted with bottles. Nobody likes seeing this, but who enjoyed the images of the last week which showed the outcome of these gatherings in the city?

    This is a public street, nothing about this mass gathering is officially sanctioned, it goes against public health guidelines and impacts businesses and residents in the area with excessive anti social behaviour from adults and underage drinkers.

    These gatherings were getting worse and worse as people realised they could get away with it. There has to be a line drawn at some point.

    But they say to gather outdoors you say? Yes, in small groups, spread out, and not acting like anti social animals.

    Hopefully some scrotes got a few clatters
    Feck sake, people going on like this is Tiananmen square or the Odessa stairs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    It's always interesting to see the differences between Boards and Reddit Ireland (almost 400,000 subscribers)

    3 of the most upvoted comments in the thread about this

    Im generally a law and order type, but it looks like the gardai creating a kettling situation so that they can waddle into battle

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    silverharp wrote: »
    Im generally a law and order type, but it looks like the gardai creating a kettling situation so that they can waddle into battle


    https://twitter.com/SamanthaLibreri/status/1401088965592158210


    You won't see as many videos circulating of the scroates inciting this "battle charge" of course


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    "Your honour, Tommy comes from a broken family and is a valued member of his local GAA team"



    https://twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1401094846350245893


    'The drinking starts from 3pm': Dublin businesses intimidated by street crowds


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/the-drinking-starts-from-3pm-dublin-businesses-intimidated-by-street-crowds-1137718.html?fbclid=IwAR0_JHuRVcf2lnXc-r63GtfYk7aiYkDlKsWMt0Kj-lgQh-k1UlEMw7JQAnA
    Intimidated by large crowds gathering to drink in the city centre, some Dublin businesses will shut their doors early this weekend to avoid dealing with antisocial behaviour.

    Mary Whelan, spokesperson for the Dublin Can Be Heaven business group of some 68 businesses located between Grafton and George’s Street, said she will close her Irish craft and design shop Eirlooms early today along with a small number of other members.

    “Myself, I'll close at three o'clock tomorrow. I know some [members] who just said no, we're just going to close for the weekend, end of story,” she said on Friday evening.

    “The drinking starts from 3pm onwards, and then it starts to escalate into the evening,” she added.

    “People in our group who've been 33 years, 47 years in business - they said they've never, ever, ever seen anything like this in the city centre,” she said, referencing social media footage of a group recently fighting in the city centre streets.

    As an aside, but relative

    On the front page of Reddit Ireland today:

    How is there so many scumbags in Ireland?

    Indeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    silverharp wrote: »

    Really hard to justify the Gardai action here, I hope they release some kind of apology. And promise to do better in future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,987 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    Really hard to justify the Gardai action here, I hope they release some kind of apology. And promise to do better in future

    I’m sure those arrested will have that opportunity to apologize to the state, the citizens and the Gardai when they end up in court and their attitudes are tempered.

    If I worked in a hospital, I’d be delighted to see the Gardai engage with those individuals as they did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭Get Real


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    Really hard to justify the Gardai action here, I hope they release some kind of apology. And promise to do better in future

    What did you see in the video that's hard to justify? All I see is a group of people, who presumably were drinking and asked to leave. How many times do you say "come on lads please head on"? 50?

    Then when people are assaulted, heads being smashed with a glass bottle, a guard is injured, the place is in chaos, businesses are complaining, windows being damaged, shop staff being attacked. (headlines on each of these in the same area)

    You think..you think a line of Gardaí clearing the street is unjustifiable?

    Nobody ever appreciates the guards turning a blind eye and letting people drink and socialise for most of the day. Then it gets out of hand and people complain when the law is enforced.

    Why aren't people out videoing Dublin right now? With guards walking about and people enjoying their pints, calmly and not being hassled? Everyone happy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    Regarding the debate about littering, I've read comments earlier in the week where people were ridiculing the suggestions of bringing bags of empty cans home with them on the train, for instance. If you were that way inclined, you would discover that there's no shortage of bins ON the train itself, at the stations, and no doubt in countless places on your way to the station.
    There is no excuse for just abandoning rubbish were you were drinking, other than laziness and apathy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,580 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ShineOn7 wrote: »

    FYI that video doing the rounds isn't from last night.

    Just to clarify the context of your post with regards to last night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/SamanthaLibreri/status/1401088965592158210


    You won't see as many videos circulating of the scroates inciting this "battle charge" of course

    i dont know the order of events but my question would be, were the gardai antagonistic or playing along and having the crack? It wasnt a political protest and it wasnt 2 groups of rival soccer fans.
    If there had been just normal weekend policing where would you ever get 20 odd gardai in the one spot?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Strumms wrote: »
    If I worked in a hospital, I’d be delighted to see the Gardai engage with those individuals as they did.

    As in the gardai are beating up young people to hospitalise them, so that would keep you busy in your job, is that it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,987 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    As in the gardai are beating up young people to hospitalise them, so that would keep you busy in your job, is that it?

    How many people were hospitalized ? Aside from the one garda that is ?

    Did the Gardai beat them up or were they simply carrying out their duties as relates to public order and defending themselves and the public in the process. ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Relaxing restrictions on Mondays makes no sense especially when it comes to bars and restaurants etc. People want to be able to go out over the weekends, not from Monday onwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭aziz


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Relaxing restrictions on Mondays makes no sense especially when it comes to bars and restaurants etc. People want to be able to go out over the weekends, not from Monday onwards.

    One of many things during the pandemic that doesn’t make sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,335 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Relaxing restrictions on Mondays makes no sense especially when it comes to bars and restaurants etc. People want to be able to go out over the weekends, not from Monday onwards.

    I think the rationale is that by opening on Monday it gives the staff a chance to get used to working with the restrictions.

    If you open on Friday they are thrown in at the deep end so to speak.

    Of course it is a bit of a nuisance on a holiday weekend but probably safer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,864 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    elperello wrote: »
    I think the rationale is that by opening on Monday it gives the staff a chance to get used to working with the restrictions.
    If you open on Friday they are thrown in at the deep end so to speak.
    Of course it is a bit of a nuisance on a holiday weekend but probably safer.

    That's not it at all..

    ...the idea is that NPHET don't want to allow drinking at the bank holiday weekend, they've always held off on lifting of restrictions until after the holiday... Now we have the disaster of Sth. William street where instead of being managed by authorities they're sending in the Gards to baton charge people out of it... total mismanagement of something the council and the Gards knew was happening when the "outdoor Summer" was planned..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭nc6000


    And now Grafton Street and Dawson Street have been closed off. Everyone enjoy your outdoor summer!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,335 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    That's not it at all..

    ...the idea is that NPHET don't want to allow drinking at the bank holiday weekend, they've always held off on lifting of restrictions until after the holiday... No we have the disaster of Sth. William street where instead of being managed by authorities they're sending in the Gards to baton charge people out of it... total mismanagement of something the council and the Gards knew was happening when the "outdoor Summer" was planned..

    I think you will find that all the authorities you mention and the Government are trying to to keep people safe rather than conspiring to spoil their fun.

    The pub and restaurant opening is being phased in correctly and if everyone behaves themselves we can all look forward to better times.

    If you read the press releases and advertisements you will see what is really meant by an "outdoor Summer".

    It's certainly not going into town and making a nuisance of oneself by willfully misinterpreting the guidelines and rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,688 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Look at the state of this. Embarrassing.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,198 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Just astonishing the defence of these utter S***B**** and not all, the delicate youth the media have bleethed on about for months, Mental Trauma because of the Pandemic, blaa Blaa Blaa. Nothing can justify the havoc and mayhem being perpetrated in a number of locations throughout the country.

    These Thugs are seriously impacting small businesses trying to recover forcing early closures and reduced business and to add insult to injury, they are not even purchasing alcohol from the few bars actually doing take away punts. Who in their right mind will go into dine outdoor next week with this disgraceful carry on.

    It just baffles me why any group, young or old would decide to buy alcohol, make their way into city centre cramped streets with Bars, restaurants, night clubs closed, WTF has got into these Gobs*****.

    Then there's panic stations over supplying Toliets and Bins for these thugs, it's just beyond belief. Gardai being maligned for doing their duty and I won't get started over lack of social distancing.

    This behaviour needs to be called out for what it is, I'd almost say takeaway pints should be banned but these F****** not even purchasing most of their drink in the CITY so that would only harm publicans.

    I'm just disgusted and Livid

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Look at the state of this. Embarrassing.

    .

    What has this country become


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,688 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Gardaí shutting down parts of our public transport now. Ashamed of what our country has become. They've lost the run of themselves.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,280 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Gardaí shutting down parts of our public transport now. Ashamed of what our country has become. They've lost the run of themselves.

    .

    probably to do with this https://twitter.com/SamanthaLibreri/status/1401279861155676162


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭Munsterman12


    Well done to he Guards. Scumbags have no place in a city centre in this day and age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Look at the state of this. Embarrassing.


    People on here and Irish Twitter are using the word "embarrassing" with very strange examples for about a year now

    What's embarrassing is the amount of scroates we have per capita in this country. Dublin and Limerick in particular

    How bad is it in Dublin?

    Well just today a video of a Jervis St shop owner taking on a scroate (and I'm delighted to say, knocking him out cold) has made it to the front page of r/PublicFreakOut

    2,000 upvotes (like Boards' Thanks system) in 3 hours


    https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/nt1lr7/asian_store_owners_deal_with_a_disruptive_racist/

    Is that the Asian shop by the Jervis Luas?

    I think I had the older lad help me find a few items before. He was one of the nicest, most helpful, store workers I've ever had to deal with - literally ran around the store grabbing things I needed for me cause I said I was in a rush.

    Sad to see this is the shíte they've to put up with.

    Wish.com Connor McGregor goes down


    And this one :pac:
    My favorite part is the friend grabbing his dick at the end and nervously adjusting his cock out of confusion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,198 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    elperello wrote: »
    I think you will find that all the authorities you mention and the Government are trying to to keep people safe rather than conspiring to spoil their fun.

    The pub and restaurant opening is being phased in correctly and if everyone behaves themselves we can all look forward to better times.

    If you read the press releases and advertisements you will see what is really meant by an "outdoor Summer".

    It's certainly not going into town and making a nuisance of oneself by willfully misinterpreting the guidelines and rules.

    Exactly and this disgraceful behaviour has insured the first week of outdoor dining pretty much ruined, who in their right mind would even consider it after this appalling behaviour.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,688 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Well done to he Guards. Scumbags have no place in a city centre in this day and age.

    Can we expect to see riot police as a feature in all our cities?


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