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Dublin Lord Mayor Hazel Chu to stand as Independent in Seanad elections

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,233 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,029 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe



    To be fair, while shes IMO a terrible politician, I can easily imagine she receives a boat load of abuse.

    Ive no problem with her being criticised and be held accountable for her comments/policies etc, but she doesn't deserve to be called a "slanty eyed, yellow bitch" (as per the article).

    Call her a terrible politician, but that kind of abuse is toxic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,233 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    To be fair, while shes IMO a terrible politician, I can easily imagine she receives a boat load of abuse.

    Ive no problem with her being criticised and be held accountable for her comments/policies etc, but she doesn't deserve to be called a "slanty eyed, yellow bitch" (as per the article).

    Call her a terrible politician, but that kind of abuse is toxic.

    Noone here is saying any of that is deserved.

    I'm more talking about the timing of her allegations, as I see today she has put herself forward for Eoghan Murphys seat in Dublin Bay North.


    Maybe I'm been too cynical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,029 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Noone here is saying any of that is deserved.

    I'm more talking about the timing of her allegations, as I see today she has put herself forward for Eoghan Murphys seat in Dublin Bay North.


    Maybe I'm been too cynical.

    I think you are.

    It looks like she was sought out for the piece by the Journal.

    Look through the thread, Im not her biggest fan, but I dont think shes "at it again".....yet. Not in this instance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    You gotta love Ireland when among the insults in the paper is included; “West Brit” and “shape-shifting dragon”.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭EddieN75


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    To be fair, while shes IMO a terrible politician, I can easily imagine she receives a boat load of abuse.

    Ive no problem with her being criticised and be held accountable for her comments/policies etc, but she doesn't deserve to be called a "slanty eyed, yellow bitch" (as per the article).

    Call her a terrible politician, but that kind of abuse is toxic.

    Iv seen pictures with her face super imposed onto the body of jabba the hut. They were sent to her if I remember correctly.

    It's not right. Would wear a person down I would imagine. She is still a crap politician though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Mav11


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    I think you are.

    It looks like she was sought out for the piece by the Journal.

    Look through the thread, Im not her biggest fan, but I dont think shes "at it again".....yet. Not in this instance.

    Might be a good idea to listen to her interview with Claire Byrne this morning, or read the Claire Byrne thread in Radio, before jumping to conclusions!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,029 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Mav11 wrote: »
    Might be a good idea to listen to her interview with Claire Byrne this morning, or read the Claire Byrne thread in Radio, before jumping to conclusions!

    I was responding to the article. Im unaware of any CB interview.

    Whats the interview? Just her jumping into the DBS race head first?

    Shes not a good politician, I hope she doesn't get elected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Mav11


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    I was responding to the article. Im unaware of any CB interview.

    Whats the interview? Just her jumping into the DBS race head first?

    Shes not a good politician, I hope she doesn't get elected.

    Should be on podcast but you will get a sense on the CB thread here. All I'll say is, "same ole, same ole".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,029 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Mav11 wrote: »
    Should be on podcast but you will get a sense on the CB thread here. All I'll say is, "same ole, same ole".

    Linky? I dont know this thread.

    Im not surprised, if she's banging the same drum as usual.

    Its all she has in her political arsenal it seems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Mav11


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Linky? I dont know this thread.

    Im not surprised, if she's banging the same drum as usual.

    Its all she has in her political arsenal it seems.

    Our Hazel, a one trick pony and not a very good trick at that!

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058106563&page=152


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,029 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Mav11 wrote: »
    Our Hazel, a one trick pony and not a very good trick at that!

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058106563&page=152

    The usual.

    I will say Im dislike her strategy.

    However, its gotten her this fair, if its not broke she wont fix it.

    I'd love someone to ask her "so Hazel, lets say another women of colour is running opposite you, why should they vote for you over her?".

    Im all for a decent female woman of colour being elected, Chu is just not a good enough politician to vote for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Mav11


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    The usual.

    I will say Im dislike her strategy.

    However, its gotten her this fair, if its not broke she wont fix it.

    I'd love someone to ask her "so Hazel, lets say another women of colour is running opposite you, why should they vote for you over her?".

    Im all for a decent female woman of colour being elected, Chu is just not a good enough politician to vote for.

    Regardless of race, gender, creed etc she seems to be totally devoid of any meaningful outward looking policy that doesn’t involve the promotion of Hazel Chu. I suppose all politicians are the same to a certain extent, but she is so blatantly self promoting, she appears incapable of hiding it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    What does she do other then rubbish talk on twitter?

    As I mentioned previously I've tried contacting her and asked honest questions about the race issues she brings up and how racist we are etc....

    She blocked me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    EddieN75 wrote: »
    Iv seen pictures with her face super imposed onto the body of jabba the hut. They were sent to her if I remember correctly.

    It's not right. Would wear a person down I would imagine. She is still a crap politician though

    Then don't become a politician. Politics was always and should always be for people with tough skin, people who can take mockery and even abuse. I'm not saying it's right, but it comes with the territory. Imagine if media outlets treated the likes of Trump like Chu? With constant articles about how oppressed his is because someone made a joke about him. It would be viewed as ridiculous, and the same reason should be applied to victim-hood seeking politicians like Chu.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,029 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    TomTomTim wrote: »
    Then don't become a politician. Politics was always and should always be for people with tough skin, people who can take mockery and even abuse. I'm not saying it's right, but it comes with the territory. Imagine if media outlets treated the likes of Trump like Chu? With constant articles about how oppressed his is because someone made a joke about him. It would be viewed as ridiculous, and the same reason should be applied to victim-hood seeking politicians like Chu.

    She should be open to criticism.

    However, she nor should anyone else be subject to dick pics, racist abuse, or any abuse (I hope your son gets autism, what a horrible line).

    This needs to change. No one deserves that.

    Call her a **** politician.... but when it descends into vulgar abuse its too far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Noone here is saying any of that is deserved.

    I'm more talking about the timing of her allegations, as I see today she has put herself forward for Eoghan Murphys seat in Dublin Bay North.


    Maybe I'm been too cynical.

    The thing is it wasnt just Hazel.

    The article mentioned
    Cllr Elisa O'Donovan
    Minister Anne Rabbitte
    Former Senator Lorraine Higgins

    So yes it is cynical. None of them deserve that abuse.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    TomTomTim wrote: »
    Then don't become a politician. Politics was always and should always be for people with tough skin, people who can take mockery and even abuse. I'm not saying it's right, but it comes with the territory. Imagine if media outlets treated the likes of Trump like Chu? With constant articles about how oppressed his is because someone made a joke about him. It would be viewed as ridiculous, and the same reason should be applied to victim-hood seeking politicians like Chu.

    It hasnt always been as bad as the last few years. I think saying "it comes with the territory" is effectively saying its acceptable. Its not acceptable.

    Do you want to start receiving dick pics and abusive names every single day because of your job?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,029 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    I think as a politician shes a public figure and open to criticism, ridicule and accusations if true.

    You believe shes a racist, I think its fair to accuse her if evidnece is available to support your opinion.

    If you believe shes a terrible politician, she should expect to be told that in a reasonable manner.

    If she does something wrong, or stupid or criminal, she should be able to take ridicule, or outrage and to expect it.

    But no one, not her or anyone desrves to be called names based off her race, gender or sexual orientation.

    If anything it gives her fuel to continue her agendas and helps her avoid any real political issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Santana Unimportant Cub


    asked this before here but couldnt get an answer, does this one trick pony have any ideas/plans/proposals other than screeching about race baiting/gender - identity politics...she has to realise no one gives a sh!t while there are serious issues like housing etc going on and not her hurt feelings and her entitlement to a well paid job for doing f all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Annasopra wrote: »
    It hasnt always been as bad as the last few years. I think saying "it comes with the territory" is effectively saying its acceptable. Its not acceptable.

    Do you want to start receiving dick pics and abusive names every single day because of your job?

    It's victim blaming, basically.


  • Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So is this the end of Ms Chu's political ambition within the Green Party?

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40306718.html


    Split in 5...4...3....?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,168 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    So is this the end of Ms Chu's political ambition within the Green Party?

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40306718.html


    Split in 5...4...3....?

    she may try to muscle into a leader role with the splinter group


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Surprised by that actually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,217 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    If Chu got it and won, you'd have to suspect she would go independent when she met her first no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,001 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    The useless cnut hasn't commented on last nights disgracefully scenes but she count stop tweeting about her great work getting toilets and bins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    She's on with Katie Hannon at the moment re Dublin crowds but I'm sure she'll be asked about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,863 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    The useless cnut hasn't commented on last nights disgracefully scenes but she count stop tweeting about her great work getting toilets and bins

    She's literally on the radio as you typed that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Danzy wrote: »
    If Chu got it and won, you'd have to suspect she would go independent when she met her first no.

    She is a fair weather Green. No commitment to technocratic green policy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,168 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Not a great outing for her here


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