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Fly me to the Moon - your 3rd travel Megathread - read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,262 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    https://globalnews.ca/news/7919671/air-canada-flights-italy-rome/
    Air Canada to begin flights to Italy without need to quarantine upon arrival

    I see this as a potential first step for me getting home. Hoping this lights up the fire under the EU's ass a bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Feria40


    Aidric wrote: »
    I apologize sincerely if this has been asked before but I'm finding it hard to find a definitive answer regarding what fully vaccinated truly means.

    I am travelling home from Switzerland with my 4 year old twins (exempt) on the 19th of July. I am having my second vaccine 2 days earlier on the 17th. Does that qualify me as exempt or is there an agreed bedding in period?

    If not exempt I assume a negative pcr test will be required for outbound travel and presentation on arrival in Ireland?

    Yes you will need a PCR. Not sure which vaccine you are receiving but 2 days post the 2nd dose won't qualify you as fully vacinated.

    A further 2 weeks and then you would have escaped the PCR test requirement with status of fully vacinated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    Aidric wrote: »
    I apologize sincerely if this has been asked before but I'm finding it hard to find a definitive answer regarding what fully vaccinated truly means.

    I am travelling home from Switzerland with my 4 year old twins (exempt) on the 19th of July. I am having my second vaccine 2 days earlier on the 17th. Does that qualify me as exempt or is there an agreed bedding in period?

    If not exempt I assume a negative pcr test will be required for outbound travel and presentation on arrival in Ireland?

    7 days after full vaccination otherwise PCR required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Feria40


    https://globalnews.ca/news/7919671/air-canada-flights-italy-rome/



    I see this as a potential first step for me getting home. Hoping this lights up the fire under the EU's ass a bit.

    I'd prefer to start with the fire being lit under the Irish Governments ass to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭BlaktainPicard


    So the PCR are gonna continue to be mandatory even if you are vaccinated ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    So the PCR are gonna continue to be mandatory even if you are vaccinated ?

    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 rajqo


    did anyone fly out of dublin airport recently early morning? is garda asking people where they go there sitting 24/7?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    You’re right. I’ve put the usual handful of suspects on ignore and hopefully the rest of those on the thread don’t engage with them. They have their own, about border control and MHQ (which has gone very quiet, which I assume is why they are here)

    anyway, ignored

    Afaik you're not.

    As per the very first comment - It's a dedicated travel thread though apparently not the sole resort of those who may be soley sceptical or otherwise.

    Of course an echo Chamber may be useful - but generally not for discussion..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,196 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    rajqo wrote: »
    did anyone fly out of dublin airport recently early morning? is garda asking people where they go there sitting 24/7?

    Flew yesterday morning at 6am. No sign of AGS. Now we were at the airport by 4 but no definitely not 24/7.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,773 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Asking more for curiosity

    fly out of Dublin to Manchester and back the next day

    What would that entail nowadays compared to the good old days ?


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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rajqo wrote: »
    did anyone fly out of dublin airport recently early morning? is garda asking people where they go there sitting 24/7?

    No, and if you drive into the short stay car park or are dropped off in there, then you miss their checkpoint on the approach to kerbside dropoff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    rajqo wrote: »
    did anyone fly out of dublin airport recently early morning? is garda asking people where they go there sitting 24/7?

    Not 24/7, you won't see them at all if you're catching an early or late flight by all accounts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭matrim


    There is now a booking system for the free 5 day test to end quarantine after you arrive in Ireland

    https://covid19traveltest.healthservice.ie/hse-self-referral/?flow=travel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭Skygord


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Asking more for curiosity

    fly out of Dublin to Manchester and back the next day

    What would that entail nowadays compared to the good old days ?

    - asked purpose of journey at DUB
    - asked purpose of journey, and whether been anywhere other than Ireland in last 10 days, at MAN
    - need a PCR test within 72 hrs of return travel (you could do it in Ireland before you go, in your case). This will need to be shown before checkin and boarding and at Immigration in DUB.
    - complete Ireland's Passenger Locator Form before return travel. This will be checked at immigration in DUB
    - self quarantine at home in Ireland on return for either 6 days (with HSE PCR test) or 14 days (no HSE PCR test)
    - get a free HSE PCR test 5 days after arrival in Dub
    - get HSE PCR test result 24hrs later, and exit self quarantine 6 days after arrival.

    I've done this exact process twice in the past month, flying DUB > MAN to see dying Mum, and then back over again for the funeral. I just exited the 2nd self quarantine yesterday and am freeeee again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    Skygord wrote: »
    - asked purpose of journey at DUB
    - asked purpose of journey, and whether been anywhere other than Ireland in last 10 days, at MAN
    - need a PCR test within 72 hrs of return travel (you could do it in Ireland before you go, in your case). This will need to be shown before checkin and boarding and at Immigration in DUB.
    - complete Ireland's Passenger Locator Form before return travel. This will be checked at immigration in DUB
    - self quarantine at home in Ireland on return for either 6 days (with HSE PCR test) or 14 days (no HSE PCR test)
    - get a free HSE PCR test 5 days after arrival in Dub
    - get HSE PCR test result 24hrs later, and exit self quarantine 6 days after arrival.

    I've done this exact process twice in the past month, flying DUB > MAN to see dying Mum, and then back over again for the funeral. I just exited the 2nd self quarantine yesterday and am freeeee again!

    After 19th July if vaccinated all the test/quarantine goes away I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,196 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    After 19th July if vaccinated all the test/quarantine goes away I believe.

    Hopefully although I'm holding off booking anything until it's all signed off!


  • Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    josip wrote: »
    It's reasonable to assume that your country can provide you with a passport within 1 month I'd think?
    rob316 wrote: »
    New baby, didn't think it takes 2 months

    Not normal times though is it? Wfh and unemployment kinda went up a tad.


  • Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There are posters like yourself who I’d disagree with a fair amount of the time, but appear to be posting in good faith and willing to engage in discussion. That’s fair enough. There are a few others who pop up with the same tired old talking points day after day and just endlessly repeat the same guff when anyone challenges them. That’s the frustrating part, IMO anyway.

    Fair point. It's a two way street though I would suggest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    For those worried about being quizzed by the gardai at the airport:

    https://twitter.com/MichealSeosamh/status/1400951692116512773


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,773 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Skygord wrote: »
    - asked purpose of journey at DUB
    - asked purpose of journey, and whether been anywhere other than Ireland in last 10 days, at MAN
    - need a PCR test within 72 hrs of return travel (you could do it in Ireland before you go, in your case). This will need to be shown before checkin and boarding and at Immigration in DUB.
    - complete Ireland's Passenger Locator Form before return travel. This will be checked at immigration in DUB
    - self quarantine at home in Ireland on return for either 6 days (with HSE PCR test) or 14 days (no HSE PCR test)
    - get a free HSE PCR test 5 days after arrival in Dub
    - get HSE PCR test result 24hrs later, and exit self quarantine 6 days after arrival.

    I've done this exact process twice in the past month, flying DUB > MAN to see dying Mum, and then back over again for the funeral. I just exited the 2nd self quarantine yesterday and am freeeee again!

    My best wishes to you and your family at this time

    Jesus that's sounds like a bit of a nightmare for a sake of a day or 2 trip. Roll on the 19th July when normality resumes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    We've cancelled our trip to Portugal, just couldn't be dealing with all the unknowns. Pcr tests are still required whether fully vaccinated or not afaik. Only the green card will sort that out I think. We'd be travelling with 2 young kids who both also require pcr testing and it was all working out way too expensive. Plus the risk of getting a positive pcr result while abroad and run the risk of having to quarantine with a child in a foreign hotel room for 2 weeks. Nahhh, you're grand thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    Hopefully although I'm holding off booking anything until it's all signed off!

    Unless we leave the European union we will have no choice but to sign up for it. The government have no other option and have run out of excuses, the rest of Europe has moved on and life is getting back to normal.

    PCR tests will NOT be necessary after 19th of July for fully vaccinated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 pouladuff_goal


    The guards on the road at the entrance to the airport are avoided if you arrive by bus or use the car park.

    The gardai are also often at departues just before you scan your boarding pass. They ask your reason for travel etc.
    It would appear that they are not checking those who use fast track in terminal 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭naufragos123


    I would also like to add my condolences and best wishes to Skygord.

    It's situations like this that anti travel zealots don't seem to care about. It's already traumatic enough when a family member get sick and dies without all of this. I had an elderly relative die of cancer just before the pandemic. All her five children were living abroad but during the months she was dying all took turns to fly home to spend time with her and all were there when she died. How awful it would have been in the pandemic and no doubt many were caught in this situation.

    However that said, travel bans and strict restrictions were necessary before vaccines to protect the wider population, though ironically Ireland wasn't that strict. But now at this point our OTT travel restrictions are doing a lot more harm than good and heaping unnecessary extra suffering on so many like this poster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Wallander


    So let's get this straight, the 14-day infection rate in Limerick is 400 per 100,000 people and you are still fine to go there for whatever reason you please (rightly so). Fancy some takeaway pints or a hotel break there, no problem!

    The 14-day infection rate in Malta is less than 10 per 100,000 people. You are 40 times less likely to get Covid there than in Limerick. Yet if you want to go there you need an essential reason you can prove to avoid a €2000 fine, you need to be PCR tested before return and you need to quarantine.

    This is discriminatory and it is disproportionate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Wallander wrote: »
    So let's get this straight, the 14-day infection rate in Limerick is 400 per 100,000 people and you are still fine to go there for whatever reason you please (rightly so). Fancy some takeaway pints or a hotel break there, no problem!

    The 14-day infection rate in Malta is less than 10 per 100,000 people. You are 40 times less likely to get Covid there than in Limerick. Yet if you want to go there you need an essential reason you can prove to avoid a €2000 fine, you need to be PCR tested before return and you need to quarantine.

    This is discriminatory and it is disproportionate.

    We’ve become a xenophobic epidemiologist infected backwater


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭freida


    Wallander wrote: »
    So let's get this straight, the 14-day infection rate in Limerick is 400 per 100,000 people and you are still fine to go there for whatever reason you please (rightly so). Fancy some takeaway pints or a hotel break there, no problem!

    The 14-day infection rate in Malta is less than 10 per 100,000 people. You are 40 times less likely to get Covid there than in Limerick. Yet if you want to go there you need an essential reason you can prove to avoid a €2000 fine, you need to be PCR tested before return and you need to quarantine.

    This is discriminatory and it is disproportionate.

    I think that is why we are still at level 5 so they can maintain that fine.
    We need a # on tweets to the eu. To keep the fine on the agenda. #letmypeoplego
    I'm sure someone here can come up with something


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,495 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    For anyone interested
    My bus passed by the airport on the way home from Dublin today around 12 noon. There was a garda checkpoint on the start of the drop off lane of terminal 2. As other posters have mentioned, buses can go through no bother. Airport was fairly quiet, not too much traffic.

    On another note, I booked my holidays for the end of August - going back home to Greece to spend some time with my family. Weather will still be nice and warm, really looking forward to it.
    I had decided that I would travel after being fully vaccinated, which will be in the middle of July - it just makes travelling much easier. Also a blessing in disguise that my work is busy at the moment so I wouldn't be able to take time off before mid August anyway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭PatrickDoherty


    TefalBrain wrote: »
    Unless we leave the European union we will have no choice but to sign up for it. The government have no other option and have run out of excuses, the rest of Europe has moved on and life is getting back to normal.

    PCR tests will NOT be necessary after 19th of July for fully vaccinated.


    The government here will ensure fully vaccinated means 2 weeks after the second jab, and for many that will be well past summer hence no one goes away and everyone spends in Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    Hopefully although I'm holding off booking anything until it's all signed off!

    Exactly. While I've already booked, I would not be one bit surprised if the gov threw in a extra couple of restrictions such as tests for everyone coming in, including the fully vaxxed.


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