Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI Read OP For Mod Warnings

Le Bruise · 02-06-2021 03:19PM

Timmy O Toole wrote: »

Hi Guys. Due to stay in hotel with kids on Friday. Is indoor dining available in hotels or what ?

It's available for overnight guests only.....so you're good to go!

Edit: link to a handy Q&A on the hotels reopening - https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/q-a-what-can-guests-expect-from-hotel-reopening-1.4581398

Boggles · 02-06-2021 03:19PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

you think the public guidelines are poor just have a look at the bord failte guidlelines for restaurants, hilarious .
like this beauty.. it reads like a county council criteria for having an extension. a weather safety plan ?? who writes this bull

Sure because temporary structures like the ones proposed will not be effected by adverse weather conditions.

No way, would never happen.

They should remove it immediately from all safety plans on temporary structures.

PTH2009 · 02-06-2021 03:19PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

So pubs should just be allowed put up any structure they like without any sort of safety plan????

The doom and gloomers are really running out of ammo.

Pre covid nobody cared really about how safe the building of the pub is and I don't think many will care now

Graham · 02-06-2021 03:19PM

Timmy O Toole wrote: »

Hi Guys. Due to stay in hotel with kids on Friday. Is indoor dining available in hotels

Yes for hotel residents

Timmy O Toole · 02-06-2021 03:20PM

Le Bruise wrote: »

It's available for overnight guests only.....so you're good to go!

Edit: link to a handy Q&A on the hotels reopening - https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/q-a-what-can-guests-expect-from-hotel-reopening-1.4581398

Thank you.

paddyisreal · 02-06-2021 03:21PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

So pubs should just be allowed put up any structure they like without any sort of safety plan????

The doom and gloomers are really running out of ammo.

obviously not, just don't write a bucket of ****e that no one is going to follow because it makes no sense ! simples.
I wonder if bord failte staff will be going around looking for your weather plan ! what a laugh

MOR316 · 02-06-2021 03:22PM

Boggles wrote: »

Nope. He didn't, his comments were on a very specific geographical location and situation, which were 100% backed up by video footage.

Again, none of that is my opinion.

A location he was in.

If he was in your location or my location or any other location, he would have said the exact same thing because it's been happening for months and anyone I know who works in the hospitality sector has said the same thing

You're right, he's a space cadet.

paddyisreal · 02-06-2021 03:25PM

Boggles wrote: »

Sure because temporary structures like the ones proposed will not be effected by adverse weather conditions.

No way, would never happen.

They should remove it immediately from all safety plans on temporary structures.

ridiculous answer.

tell me with your superior knowledge do existing pubs with outdoor areas before the pandemic have to have a weather plan in place ?
no they didn't because it was common bloody sense same as it is now for any pub restaurant doing it !.

Boggles · 02-06-2021 03:25PM

MOR316 wrote: »

If he was in your location or my location or any other location, he would have said the exact same thing

Clairvoyant?

Cool.

Like I said the 2 locations I was in was nothing like the situation he commented on.

So, Nope!

Boggles · 02-06-2021 03:30PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

ridiculous answer.

tell me with your superior knowledge do existing pubs with outdoor areas before the pandemic have to have a weather plan in place ?
no they didn't because it was common bloody sense same as it is now for any pub restaurant doing it !.

Why don't you ask your mate who 100% guaranteed indoor dining wouldn't be back until August?

But anyway, yes there is health and safety guidance on anything temporary that has the potential to become a hazard.

This isn't new.

MOR316 · 02-06-2021 03:32PM

Boggles wrote: »

Clairvoyant?

Cool.

Like I said the 2 locations I was in was nothing like the situation he commented on.

So, Nope!

And you're telling me that if he saw you or whoever else who hasn't received their vaccination shot, out hanging out or having a few drinks, he wouldn't have tweeted the same thing?

Sorry pal, that's very naive thinking. He has commented on people mingling before that was nothing to do with the scenes last week. I genuinely think it's very naive to think he wouldn't have said anything.

Yesterday in Bray, on the promenade, there were people spaced out, having drinks, enjoying the sun, sitting on the grass, going for a swim etc...If he drove past, 100% certain he would have tweeted something.

On another note, I don't believe he drove down there on Saturday night. Given his status and the public's opinion, there is no way in hell he drove down there and wasn't spotted by anyone

Boggles · 02-06-2021 03:35PM

MOR316 wrote: »

And you're telling me that if he saw you or whoever else who hasn't received their vaccination shot, out hanging out or having a few drinks, he wouldn't have tweeted the same thing?

Sorry pal, that's very naive thinking. He has commented on people mingling before that was nothing to do with the scenes last week. I genuinely think it's very naive to think he wouldn't have said anything.

Yesterday in Bray, on the promenade, there were people spaced out, having drinks, enjoying the sun, sitting on the grass, going for a swim etc...If he drove past, 100% certain he would have tweeted something.

On another note, I don't believe he drove down there on Saturday night. Given his status and the public's opinion, there is no way in hell he drove down there and wasn't spotted by anyone

So not only can you tell the future with 100% clarity, you can do so with various alternative scenarios.

Quite the skill.

Good for you.

MOR316 · 02-06-2021 03:36PM

Boggles wrote: »

So not only can you tell the future with 100% clarity, you can do so with various alternative scenarios.

Quite the skill.

Good for you.

Classic Boggles and his "well I have no answer because I've been caught yet again so I'll just try to insult the poster" responses.

Never mind the pubs and the outdoor weather conditions, your posts should come with a health and safety warning

paddyisreal · 02-06-2021 03:37PM

Boggles wrote: »

Why don't you ask your mate who 100% guaranteed indoor dining wouldn't be back until August?

But anyway, yes there is health and safety guidance on anything temporary that has the potential to become a hazard.

This isn't new.

we will see about indoor dining....

why don't you tell me why we are the last country in the world to open outdoor dining ? forgot your answer on that one !

so its "health and safety" now and not a "weather plan".. nice moving of the post again

Boggles · 02-06-2021 03:42PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Classic Boggles and his "well I have no answer because I've been caught yet again so I'll just try to insult the poster" responses.

Answer to what? you asked a question I could not possibly answer.

You stated you 100% know what another person would tweet in every situation.

What is one suppose to think about that declaration?

Boggles · 02-06-2021 03:42PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

we will see about indoor dining....

Was he back onto you?

Personally I think it's time you stop listening to him.

so its "health and safety" now and not a "weather plan".. nice moving of the post again

You left out the word 'safety'.

Just because you are confused by it doesn't mean it's not real.

paddyisreal · 02-06-2021 03:52PM

Boggles wrote: »

Was he back onto you?

Personally I think it's time you stop listening to him.

You left out the word 'safety'.

Just because you are confused by it doesn't mean it's not real.

personal attacks mmm,

you left out the outdoor dining qnswer AGAIN ? answer on a post card please !

I think we will be waiting for your answer on that one ......

Boggles · 02-06-2021 03:57PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

personal attacks mmm,

Pointing out that you are confused by health and safety guidelines that have been in existence for decades is not a personal attack.

It's a fact.

As for outdoor dining, you can indulge from Monday, or indoor if you are lucky enough to be staying in a hotel, guesthouse or B+B from today on.

Or just go to your local bookies where you can have a 4 course meal apparently.

paddyisreal · 02-06-2021 04:00PM

Boggles wrote: »

Pointing out that you are confused by health and safety guidelines that have been in existence for decades is not a person attack.

It's a fact.

telling me I get confused by health and safety guidelines is kind of attacking the poster no ? implies im a bit stupid ?
you don't know me from adam so stop guessing that I get confused easy. play the ball not the man.

02-06-2021 04:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It will be great to see loads of people out and about again this weekend enjoying picnics and takeaway pints etc. Poor auld Tony and a few members on here will have a meltdown

For someone who is obviously completely anti-lockdown measures, you seem to be living a pretty sheltered life. I've been seeing loads of people out and about practically every weekend since this happened. I've had multiple picnics and been enjoying takeaway pints for months now, and have yet to see this meltdown you speak of. Maybe you should have been out and about yourself?

There's an awful amount of smug, hyperbole in that post but, thankfully, it doesn't reflect reality.

paddyisreal · 02-06-2021 04:08PM

Boggles wrote: »

Pointing out that you are confused by health and safety guidelines that have been in existence for decades is not a personal attack.

we will let the mods decide if its a personal attack or not

It's a fact.

As for outdoor dining, you can indulge from Monday, or indoor if you are lucky enough to be staying in a hotel, guesthouse or B+B from today on.

We are the last country in the world without outdoor dining.... FACT

Or just go to your local bookies where you can have a 4 course meal apparently

.

Never said that, I asked another valid question which you could not answer.
How can I eat in a bookies and not have outdoor dining .....

Another question you could not answer

Boggles · 02-06-2021 04:08PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

telling me I get confused by health and safety guidelines is kind of attacking the poster no ? implies im a bit stupid ?
you don't know me from adam so stop guessing that I get confused easy. play the ball not the man.

I'm not guessing, nor did I suggest you confuse easily.

I went out of my way as did others to explain why you would need health and safety plans around temporary structures particularly during adverse weather conditions.

You claimed that was "bullshít" and "nonsense".

Boggles · 02-06-2021 04:10PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

Never said that, I asked another valid question which you could not answer.
How can I eat in a bookies and not have outdoor dining .....

It was answered at the time by several people, you can't.

paddyisreal · 02-06-2021 04:15PM

Boggles wrote: »

It was answered at the time by several people, you can't.

no it wasn't.

paddyisreal · 02-06-2021 04:18PM

Boggles wrote: »

I'm not guessing, nor did I suggest you confuse easily.

I went out of my way as did others to explain why you would need health and safety plans around temporary structures particularly during adverse weather conditions.

You claimed that was "bullshít" and "nonsense".

what you posted below
Just because you are confused by it doesn't mean it's not real.

you just contradicted yourself.

Boggles · 02-06-2021 04:27PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

what you posted below
Just because you are confused by it doesn't mean it's not real.

you just contradicted yourself.

Nope. Read your accusation and then read the reply again.

Anyway we will leave it there, no point derailing the thread.

speckle · 02-06-2021 04:49PM

Boggles wrote: »

So when Kerry had a 14 day incidence rate of above 1100, what level should they have been at and why?

That was for a short time have you looked at their stats in totality it is not only about 'case' numbers?..Hospital never over ran... wasnt that the point of restrictions? were you following spookwomans daily postings on hospital stats like I was?

They divided a and e early into covid and non covid...set up a special ward all very early on and that was with a tiny ICU 5/6 beds which included other types of ICU patients ... Top 2 in the country regarding working with the local private hospital aswell.

level 5 there was always over kill... level 3 continously would have been better.

They kept it out and away from the majority of older folk for nearly a year this kept them safe inorder for better treatments to come on board and up their vit D levels etc. A couple of patients transferred to cork but they also took patients from the limerick geographic area.

I have had a seriously ill relation in and out of hospital there for the past year and a half including A and E... Things worked very well a credit to all the hospital staff and that is including the fact that a lot of the early cases there were HCWs.

Early march c40 deaths which has gone up a tiny bit since then in a poulation of 147,707... and thst is with one of the most elderly populations...give credit were its due if it wont kill you a bit metaphorically speaking

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40237157.html

Boggles · 02-06-2021 04:56PM

speckle wrote: »

That was for a short time have you looked at their stats in totality it is not only about 'case' numbers?..Hospital never over ran... wasnt that the point of restrictions? were you following spookwomans daily postings on hospital stats like I was?

They divided a and e early into covid and non covid...set up a special ward all very early on and that was with a tiny ICU 5/6 beds which included other types of ICU patients ... Top 2 in the country regarding working with the local private hospital aswell.

level 5 there was always over kill... level 3 continously would have been better.

They kept it out and away from the majority of older folk for nearly a year this kept them safe inorder for better treatments to come on board and up their vit D levels etc. A couple of patients transferred to cork but they also took patients from the limerick geographic area.

I have had a seriously ill relation in and out of hospital there for the past year and a half including A and E... Things worked very well a credit to all the hospital staff and that is including the fact that a lot of the early cases there were HCWs.

Early march c40 deaths which has gone up a tiny bit since then in a poulation of 147,707... and thst is with one of the most elderly populations...give credit were its due if it wont kill you a bit metaphorically speaking

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40237157.html

So none of that success was down to level 5 mitigation.

And they would have fared exactly the same continuously at level 3?

NIAC Fanboy · 02-06-2021 04:57PM

Boggles wrote: »

And they would have fared exactly the same continuously at level 3?

Most probably, yes.

speckle · 02-06-2021 05:00PM

Boggles wrote: »

So none of that success was down to level 5 mitigation.

And they would have fared exactly the same continuously at level 3?

Yes..possibly even better

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