Water softner and filter

bluestrattos wrote: »

Hello,

I'm looking for a water softner and filter all-in-one.

I don't know if I'm looking correctly, but it seems I need two devices: A water softner and then a water filtering systems that it will feed from the water softner.

I live in a very hard water area, really terrible. so I need to get something, better than a filter jug.

My question is, am I missing something or do I need two different systems: a water softner connected to a filter system ?

This would be for the kitchen sink only.

thanks

For drinking purposes? Or filling a kettle or both?

Have you had the Water tested.?

A water Softener will do just that soften the water by removing or reducing limescale.

Is the Water coming from a Well. If it is a Well you could have other problems also like Iron and Manganese.

Filters don't really stop limescale as it's mostly soluble in the water. But they can catch some of the bigger pieces of limescale.

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Out of intrest, why not soften the entire house?

Yes reverse osmosis will remove everything. You’ll be left with perfect drinking water.

Regarding mains water, I’m on mains too. I installed a 1ppm micron filter out of intrest on the incoming mains, before any other water treatment. Within 2 months the perfectly white filter turns dark brown, full of god knows what. That just shows you what you’re drinking and showering in, without realising it.

Hi is this expensive to get installed?

ineedeuro wrote: »

Loads of people doing a water tap, my brother got in on the "you won a prize BS" which they all seem to use. I think he pays 150 a year maintenace for a tap which seems crazy to me but he loves it and I dont want to be negative especially when I dont have the facts to back it up

Haha great scam. God love his naive heart. That’s basically a money racket to keep the€€€ coming in for some company. Water softners don’t really need to be serviced. Crowds that install them will tell you otherwise those. Great money spinner. A monkey would change the filters on an RO machine themselves. If you have limescale and also want perfect drinking water then the only option is a salt Softner and reverse osmosis drinking tap.
You’d prob get the lot installed for 1200ish. Salt for the year would prob cost less than 100 and change filters in the RO every 2-3 years depending on the quality of the water.

bluestrattos wrote:

I've a filter in the shower head and outside the power shower, and before I did this, the shower head would get lime scale in two days, and after the shower, taking out the lead, you could see little pieces like you just arrived from the beach.

The shower head filter only protects the shower head. It offers no protection to the shower itself.

A proper water softening system will pay for itself within a few years as it will prolong the the life of the shower, washing machine, dishwasher, immersion, kettle, iorn etc

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Out of interest can you remember how much your water softening system cost originally? I have a lot of clients in Balbriggan that are getting shower elements replaced every 18 months or so. They'd have a perfectly functional shower for the first six months or so & then performance starts to suffer

Standard salt Softner installed anywhere from 600-800

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Really bad areas would save this in 4 or 5 years (or less) I would think. Some pay me 165 every 18 months for shower exement.

They’re worth their weight in gold. Even showering in water is so much nicer. I have my entire system working off of reverse osmosis water. Showering is like being cried on by angels

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I suppose it would be like rain water. You wouldn't need fabric softener or hair conditioner. Your skin even wouldn't be as dry?

It’s softer than rain water. Correct on the rest

ineedeuro wrote: »

Are we allowed to name companies here? I know a main one seems to be based in Ashbourne I was going to get the main system which is 799.

I want to cover the entire house. So I guess this is the system you need.
If you install this do you need the drinking water tap?
MOD NOTE. IT'S BEST NOT TO NAME THEM AS YOU HAVE PROVIDED ENOUGH INFO TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO FIND THEM.

Yes and they’ll insist on servicing it every year. A totally unnecessary Job.

bluestrattos wrote: »

According with Irsh Water website, my address has the following:
Current mg/l of CaC03 in your water: 396.8, Very Hard
Average mg/l of CaC03 for your Water Supply Zone> 407.288888888889, Very Hard

Where did you get these number from?
Have looked but don't see it listed?
Thanks

These suppliers are just selling equipment, are there any good brand names?
I was sure I heard of these going for the 300-350 mark in the ideal homes before.
Can these be connected directly into (ie inserted into) the mains supply so they then supply the entire house house supply ie tank and any tap fed with mains water directly from the units? (edit) I say that as I have seen some units where they appear to have a small speedfit type connection in and out and a small tap thats added to the sink, I cant say I'd rely on such a connection under mains pressure, and in my experience they are going to fail eventually, not to mention the tiny outlet, I don't think it would allow enough flow to feed demand for a domestic set up (in the example I saw).


As for servicing, Id have thought replacing the RO and sediment filters is all thats required, and that is simple, water softener? replacing some kind of granular or block of salt.


I did think if water is softened it was less easy to wash in (that it doesnt lather soap or the like easily), that it might taste less pleasant and that it may actually remove essential minerals?

Any brand names?

Dtp1979 wrote: »

You can drink softened water. It has slightly elevated sodium levels.

Yes but it can taste sh$t