Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

So where should he have gone and done it?

Are you seriously defending pissing in the street.

whisky_galore wrote: »

They're a lot lighter than the bag of full cans you brought with you.

Desperately grasping for excuses for the terminally lazy.

People dont bring cans with them, its the city - there are millions of options for buying all kind of drinks when you get there, THATS WHY PEOPLE GO.

The idea that everyone should bring all of their days food and drink waste out of the city on the bus/train/taxi is absurd. This situation only has to run another few weeks, DCC should provide enough bins and toilets to cope with demand. End of.

Getting real tired of the curtain twitchers having a go at the young lads now. Theyve been locked up for a year and a half and now we want to outsource the cities waste managment to them? Give me a ****ing break.

jakiah wrote: »

People dont bring cans with them, its the city - there are millions of options for buying all kind of drinks when you get there, THATS WHY PEOPLE GO.

The idea that everyone should bring all of their days food and drink waste out of the city on the bus/train/taxi is absurd. This situation only has to run another few weeks, DCC should provide enough bins and toilets to cope with demand. End of.

Getting real tired of the curtain twitchers having a go at the young lads now. Theyve been locked up for a year and a half and now we want to outsource the cities waste managment to them? Give me a ****ing break.

The same young lads that went on strike for climate change. Lol.

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Did ye all have your logic module overwritten by George Lee killware or something? Couldnt make this sh1t up.

Be nice to George, please. He is very happy with his current spot as environment and 'science' correspondent. He is a very important and knowledgeable guy with the best of intentions. Didnt quite hack it as a politician and would likely not fly on his reputation in the commercial world so he is exactly where he needs to be, in the safe arms of the State broadcaster's spotlight telling people to be very very very very cautious. There will always be a job for George.

NIAC Fanboy wrote: »

So where should he have gone and done it?

I bet if he knew the consequences he would have found a more discrete place, or maybe don't get wánkered off your face to the extent you can't be more discreet.

But in the current upside down world we live in a lad píssíng outside someones house during the day is the victim.

At this stage it appears that those who refuse to legally dispose of their rubbish by paying bin charges are preventing proper provision of litter bins everywhere. But, but..... those too mean to pay for bins will just use the public litter bins/skips instead. This is becoming totally absurd now.

Add a levy on to ESB charge. Everyone pays, no need to worry about disposing of rubbish, the bins are there because you paid for them. Just like more civilised places on the Continent. Time to grow up, the bin charge as it stands is not working and is resulting in the many suffering because of the few.

I know some are muppets though and will just chuck their stuff on the path anyway, but most would try to dispose of rubbish if there were facilities provided. But we ALL have to pay.

Graham wrote: »

For the most part, they're not.

From my perspective, quite the opposite. I'd rather we didn't get stupid at this stage and put the reopening at risk.

100% things are ticking along nicely with numbers and vaccinations.
I'm looking forward to a reasonable summer with opportunities for socializing for all age groups.
As you say no need to be stupid now for the sake of a few weeks.

joe40 wrote: »

Are you seriously defending pissing in the street.

Tell me where he should have gone.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0531/1225102-eu-travel-covid/

From RTE news. The EU wants the newly agreed Covid cert to go ahead asap with Bulgeria, Croatia, Czech Rep, Greece, Denmark and Poland close to issueing it already.
France possibly on june 9. This before the official implementation on July 1st.
I think Ireland knew this was coming. They officially came out w a statement stretching it to July 19, as far away as possible. They knew they could not give that date after the EU statement so they rushed it, giving 'certainty' to people. Now the pressure will be on to do it sooner.
What will happen is that the government will go out of its way to justify july19 by any means possible. Will they buckle?

From RTE:
"
When it comes into force from 1 July, the European Union wants the Covid certificate to be used to allow travellers within the bloc to avoid testing or quarantine requirements if they can show they are fully vaccinated, have recovered from a Covid-19 infection, or have a recent negative test.

A Commission website - called a "gateway" - allowing border officers and other officials to check the validity of the certificates will go live on Tuesday.

Commission officials said they encouraged member states to start issuing and accepting the Covid certificates in June, so that all EU countries were using it by the end of the month, in time for the peak summer tourist season.

Countries expected to be ready to issue certificates on Tuesday included Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Greece, Denmark and Poland.

France, the most-visited country on the planet pre-pandemic, was expected to be ready on 9 June.

The Commission proposal urged member states to adopt many of the elements of the Covid certificate before it became law.

They included dropping entry restrictions on people able to show they had been fully inoculated with an EU-approved vaccine at least two weeks before travel, and adopting an "emergency brake" to swiftly restrict travel from regions with a Covid-19 variant of concern.

It also suggested member states should exempt children from quarantine, and those under six years of age from testing, to allow families to travel together."

Boggles wrote: »

No it isn't, it's a policy that has had great success along the Wild Atlantic Way.

Leave nothing but your footprints.

Not everyone is a selfish cúnt who fúcks their waste wherever they choose.

Are there hundreds of businesses selling food and drink to thousands of people in a few square KMs on the Wild Atlantic Way? Ffs

jakiah wrote: »

Are there hundreds of businesses selling food and drink to thousands of people in a few square KMs on the Wild Atlantic Way? Ffs

Yes.

Boggles wrote: »

Yes.

Where?

timmyntc wrote: »

My aforementioned surge? I havent referred to any historical surge caused by outdoor gatherings. I'm asking if you have any evidence to back up your theory that the outdoor gatherings are causing a rise in case numbers.

Yes the 'surge' you kept referring to in previous
comments. That's not my "theory" btw. It was your theory that any increase would automatically show up as some big surge. And frankly that does not stand up to scrutiny

But I see you disagree with the CMO and other health experts advice? Well that's your perogative but making out to be an expert from reading some stuff on the Internet doesn't really wash either tbh.

But more importantly and as detailed we know that such unmanaged/ crowded / close contact
/ face to face / extended socialising is a risk and yes that includes outdoors. Were not talking ordinary outdoor activities such as meeting up with a group of friends or walking your dog btw or even organised concerts with restrictions etc .
Google all of that if you are in any doubt.

timmyntc wrote: »

On the 2nd point, its a paywall not firewall, and thats why I quoted relevant parts of the article in my post. You must have missed it.

Haha hair splitting ok. Blame autocorrect if you like. But yes you hilariously accused me of not reading the IT article when I detailed the bit visible on the link despite the firewall. You also quoted the Irish study referenced in that link in another comment- even though its completely irrelevant

timmyntc wrote: »

I have read the studies, they are examinations of epidemiology of cases across multiple countries - China, Japan, US and more. All note very low amounts of outdoors transmission.

Tell me how many of those studies were unmanaged social street gatherings involving alcohol ? Less than zero?

timmyntc wrote: »

The "organised and managed" events you are referring to, they were not what I was referring to in the article - however if you want to go there, then lets go there. Here are some events from UK conducted about 1 month ago - primarily younger people in attendence, and at that time the 20-30s were not getting 1st doses in UK yet.
So have you any proof that outdoor gatherings are high risk? Or is all your hysteria over gatherings in DUblin city, an overreaction?

See above. And btw - do you honestly believe that singularly you are right and the CMO and other health experts are wrong just becausyou've e read some studies with no relevance to the gathering under discussion?

Perhaps everyone who views the scenes in DCC as a feking disgrace are gulty of "hysteria" and "overreaction"? If so that says more about subject bias than anything else tbh

Ballynally wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0531/1225102-eu-travel-covid/

From RTE news. The EU wants the newly agreed Covid cert to go ahead asap with Bulgeria, Croatia, Czech Rep, Greece, Denmark and Poland close to issueing it already.
France possibly on june 9. This before the official implementation on July 1st.
I think Ireland knew this was coming. They officially came out w a statement stretching it to July 19, as far away as possible. They knew they could not give that date after the EU statement so they rushed it, giving 'certainty' to people. Now the pressure will be on to do it sooner.
What will happen is that the government will go out of its way to justify july19 by any means possible. Will they buckle?

From RTE:
"
When it comes into force from 1 July, the European Union wants the Covid certificate to be used to allow travellers within the bloc to avoid testing or quarantine requirements if they can show they are fully vaccinated, have recovered from a Covid-19 infection, or have a recent negative test.

A Commission website - called a "gateway" - allowing border officers and other officials to check the validity of the certificates will go live on Tuesday.

Commission officials said they encouraged member states to start issuing and accepting the Covid certificates in June, so that all EU countries were using it by the end of the month, in time for the peak summer tourist season.

Countries expected to be ready to issue certificates on Tuesday included Bulgaria, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Greece, Denmark and Poland.

France, the most-visited country on the planet pre-pandemic, was expected to be ready on 9 June.

The Commission proposal urged member states to adopt many of the elements of the Covid certificate before it became law.

They included dropping entry restrictions on people able to show they had been fully inoculated with an EU-approved vaccine at least two weeks before travel, and adopting an "emergency brake" to swiftly restrict travel from regions with a Covid-19 variant of concern.

It also suggested member states should exempt children from quarantine, and those under six years of age from testing, to allow families to travel together."

Lets see how the government reacts to all this on the 6 o clock news !

My guess: first out of the block: 'safety issues' (HSE hack, you know).
Then: 'difficulties in technical implementation' (what, one month not enough time?) Indian variant, etc..
Edit: so, on the RTE 6 o clock news it was a by the by item not really properly addressed. At the 9 o clock then, maybe