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An Garda Síochána - COVID19

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,550 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    "Probationary garda"

    How will that work out then?
    Story kinda hints....some money in the poor box and sure you are grand....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    gmisk wrote: »
    Story kinda hints....some money in the poor box and sure you are grand....

    In the greater scheme of things. 27 year old messes up, is embarrassed in front of her peers, decided to address issues and is publicly humiliated.

    Poor judgement but she was not corrupt, did not drink and drive, did not beat up a member of the public, did not squash penalty points, did not cook the books etc etc.


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    She will be let go, I would imagine.


  • Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "pour encourager les autres...."


  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Judge said she'd be held go higher standards than the public.
    I'm not convinced that's fairness from the law. She'll be hung out to dry and loose her job.

    Pity she wasn't a traveller ignoring a court order. A fine and told to be good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Gardaí say 4 people were arrested


    Shame it wasn't 4 publicans on that street


    https://twitter.com/KarlPurdy/status/1398923370226503680


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,580 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Shame it wasn't 4 publicans on that street


    https://twitter.com/KarlPurdy/status/1398923370226503680

    I see lots of spar bags and cans, what's that got to do with publicans, I doubt they're selling mutlipacks of cans in spar bags


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That video is the same as any video taken on the same street before covid.
    Any Saturday or Sunday morning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭User142




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


    User142 wrote: »

    I love the ongoing comment..."this does not happen in any other country"...as if thats reinforcing his point. No shìt it doesnt happen in any other countries! Other countries have a bit more civil respect and dont start pissing and shìtting in the streets at the first sign of sunshine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    User142 wrote: »

    More of this is needed to stop the Covidiot assholes ruining our country and leaving it like a rubbish tip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Noo wrote: »
    I love the ongoing comment..."this does not happen in any other country"...as if thats reinforcing his point. No shìt it doesnt happen in any other countries! Other countries have a bit more civil respect and dont start pissing and shìtting in the streets at the first sign of sunshine.

    Other countries also have far more public toilets and do not have a majority of toilets in cities still refusing people entering them.

    Not condoning it but like what is going to happen when they have been so slow to open up outdoor hospitality ergo said premises restrooms? So I don't really think this is a civil respect issue. Your idea that we are crazed outdoor pissers and ****ters compared to Europe is laughable. I've been abroad to most of the big cities in Europe and hey-ho, drunk people piss outside a lot there too. If people could use the toilets in the city then the vast majority would (at least women, men are pretty G to piss anywhere and that is a worldwide thing).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    More of this is needed to stop the Covidiot assholes ruining our country and leaving it like a rubbish tip.
    That's normal behaviour in some quarters and doesn't need a pandemic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭nc6000


    There are thousands of portaloos lying idle due to the lack of festivals and outdoor events taking place. Dublin City Council could provide toilet and other facilities if they wanted to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Mimon


    nc6000 wrote: »
    There are thousands of portaloos lying idle due to the lack of festivals and outdoor events taking place. Dublin City Council could provide toilet and other facilities if they wanted to.

    How would it look to be providing these for crowds gathering stupidly during a pandemic caused by a highly contagious virus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Mimon wrote: »
    How would it look to be providing these for crowds gathering stupidly during a pandemic caused by a highly contagious virus?

    I'm not suggesting they should be provided for crowds but I think the pandemic has shown the lack of facilities in general around the city when bars, cafes etc are closed.

    There's hardly anywhere to even sit down in the city centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    Mimon wrote: »
    How would it look to be providing these for crowds gathering stupidly during a pandemic caused by a highly contagious virus?

    It would look like the government/council knew what they were doing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,637 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    I think the rubbish situation is pretty heavily tied to the policing situation.

    When the public order unit clears an area, they basically sweep it. 10-12 Gardai will walk the length of the street, and everyone will be forced to leave. A lot of those people leave in a hurry, I guess some are under age, others are just afraid. Some people aren't cleaning up because they aren't leaving on their own terms.


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    errlloyd wrote: »
    I think the rubbish situation is pretty heavily tied to the policing situation.

    When the public order unit clears an area, they basically sweep it. 10-12 Gardai will walk the length of the street, and everyone will be forced to leave. A lot of those people leave in a hurry, I guess some are under age, others are just afraid. Some people aren't cleaning up because they aren't leaving on their own terms.

    So what's the excuse when the police don't clear the area?
    Considering that the police hardly ever clear an area like this, the place should be spotless!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,637 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    bubblypop wrote: »
    So what's the excuse when the police don't clear the area?
    Considering that the police hardly ever clear an area like this, the place should be spotless!

    Do you mean South William St?

    The police clear that whole area between Dame, Grafton, Georges and Aungier St every single night.


  • Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Do you mean South William St?

    The police clear that whole area between Dame, Grafton, Georges and Aungier St every single night.

    Do they?
    Every night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,637 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Do they?
    Every night?

    I was there on a lightly drizzling Monday night about three weeks ago. I'd say there were about 40 people in small groups scattered between Drury, Wicklow, S William St. At about 10pm the Public Order Unit showed up and forced everyone to leave.

    I live by the grand canal - at the barge. The public order unit clear that area like clockwork.

    They're not in the wrong. They're usually not all that aggressive. I've seen them pouring out people's drinks, but I have also experienced A Guard walking over to us recently and quietly saying "listen, a resident complained, I have to be seen to be doing something - so will you guys head off for a few minutes and come back later". So there is definitely a spectrum they operate in that is somewhat reactive to what they face.

    I am just saying that a lot of the rubbish we see is a result of people leaving in a hurry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,866 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    The answer to the issue of young people drinking en-masse outdoors where they were told by Holohan/NPHET was safe, is not for the council to provide more outdoor loos, not to provide more bins or indeed more outdoor areas so people can socialise...

    Nope, it's to send in more Gardai and fence off areas where people (safely) congregate outdoors... but it's ok, the riot squad will have "flat caps" on and not full riot gear.. phewww! Maybe the Garda Dogs will wear muzzles this time too?

    We're experts at doing things a**ways in this country...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Have heard from a few people over the past few days that the Gardai have stopped them and demanded to search their bags for alcohol etc. while they're just walking along the canals. This seems completely over the top and unreasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    Amirani wrote: »
    Have heard from a few people over the past few days that the Gardai have stopped them and demanded to search their bags for alcohol etc. while they're just walking along the canals. This seems completely over the top and unreasonable.

    There’s a guard in Cork who went around sniffing peoples drinks at The Lough to see if there was alcohol in them. Our police force is embarrassing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,093 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Amirani wrote: »
    Have heard from a few people over the past few days that the Gardai have stopped them and demanded to search their bags for alcohol etc. while they're just walking along the canals. This seems completely over the top and unreasonable.


    "Something needs to be done about antisocial behaviour wrecking out public spaces!"


    "Stop doing things to address antisocial behaviour wrecking out public spaces!"




    I wish people would pick a lane, no wonder nothing ever gets done about a problem. Clearly enforcement is the issue, but when any enforcement action is taken people sperg out about 'The Man' ruining our fun. In Oireland, enforcement is always something that needs to be appied to the other guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Noo wrote: »
    I love the ongoing comment..."this does not happen in any other country"...as if thats reinforcing his point. No shìt it doesnt happen in any other countries! Other countries have a bit more civil respect and dont start pissing and shìtting in the streets at the first sign of sunshine.

    I see a lot of gob****es trying to defend this over the last day or two on social media. Of course there should be a lot more bins and outdoor toilets, especially this year with the ''outdoor summer'' we keep getting told about.
    But I strongly doubt a few more bins would have made much of a difference when the place was left in that state.

    I did plenty of bushing in my teens and early 20s and me nor anyone else around never left that place in that state. We'd at least gather our ****e up and put it in a bag next to a bin. And this was a time when there was very little talk about saving the planet compared to nowadays.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    conorhal wrote: »
    I wish people would pick a lane, no wonder nothing ever gets done about a problem. Clearly enforcement is the issue, but when any enforcement action is taken people sperg out about 'The Man' ruining our fun. In Oireland, enforcement is always something that needs to be appied to the other guy.

    Em, no. Gardaí should not be using stop and search powers on people on an evening walk down the canal. That's nothing about the man ruining anyone ones fun, it's an autocratic level of policing that is unacceptable in Ireland.

    Legally Gardai are only allowed to search you if they believe you have committed a crime. Carrying alcohol in your backpack isn't a crime.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    Acosta wrote: »
    I did plenty of bushing in my teens and early 20s and me nor anyone else around never left that place in that state. We'd at least gather our ****e up and put it in a bag next to a bin.

    Yes, but is it not a case of "broken windows"? i.e. when there are no even attempts to provide bins/toilets, then there will be some litter/public urination etc, and once that starts, then everybody else says "feck it".


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