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Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    Hard mode isn't a hard mode as such, it is a 'play the game again with high level characters' mode.

    Also it's so far from being like an old school game anyway, it's a genuinely forward looking idea for turn based battle systems imo (which some problems that hopefully the sequels fix). Got lots of problems with the complete package of FFVII Remake but they split the balance between action and turn based decision making in a really smart way which brings in ideas not just from the old game but also more fast paced action titles and even MMOs. Should have been a mess but wasn't (imo)

    WRT difficulty I was disappointed to see the PS5 re-release doesn't have a super hard mode that actually demands fully maxed characters. When I went back I tried to beat some of the boss fights with unupgraded weapons and it feels much closer to what a truly 'hard' mode for ffvii remake should feel like. But I'd prefer the game provide that itself somewhere.

    The PC version could be a good place to find a more balanced hard mode in the form of a mod which ends up more rewarding. The default main game lacks anything which rewards knowledge of mechanics I found

    The final boss is pretty easy and disappointing I think. The game excels at these big scale almost raid style battles against giant behemoths but when it gets a bit too character action-ey it's a much more flakey combat system I find. Cause human characters are easier to read and punish (except Rufus who has the weirdest design for a boss fight I've seen, still don't really get that one tbh)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    I... made it. I... finished...Final Fantasy Remake...now...I can...rest...*dies of exhaustion*

    In all seriousness, this is a lovely 15 hour game at best stretched out painfully thin over 35 hours +. I know some here love the nostalgic aspect and I'm not trying to take that away from you but let's be honest with ourselves: It really did not need to be this long.

    It's not even the waves and waves of enemies or trash mobs it throws at you after JUST beating a boss that pad it out as you can make quick work of them. What drags the game out is the infuriating way it constantly interrupts you with mini cut scenes and "look here!" moments. Literally 1 or 2 steps then a pause for needless in-game chatter. I'd rather just one big long cut scene than being constantly interrupted as I'm running and exploring.

    Even in boss fights it's constantly stopping to show a mini cinematic cut scene. The final, final boss fight in particular was actually fun but the game just wouldn't let me play it lol. As for the story, the ending was a confusing mess and I'm not even going to try to understand it. Too much sequel baiting.

    It's a good game but it would have been way better if it was half the length. I'm gonna try and go for platinum now which I think will be more fun. I can skip cut scenes and focus purely on mastering the best aspect i.e. the combat on Hard difficulty. Should be a fun challenge without items. There also won't be the, 'are we there yet?' factor since I know where all the story beats are.

    In short, I liked it overall but not enough to return for the sequel as the story didn't grab me despite liking the characters. I honestly can't understand how this is better received than Final Fantasy XV. People complained about the chapter 13 corridor section (which they patched) yet this one is the patched version of that x 100 and yet it's popping up frequently on Game of the Year lists? :confused:

    P.S.the music was fire.

    FFXV characters, storyline and systems were total ****e that's why. A very good game in many ways but awful in others. Likewise it's a 100 hour game that would be far better as a more concise 50 hour experience but the japs love a good grindy game.

    IMO 7-R has the best story ever told in a game, best direction, best characters and by far the best soundtrack in any game ever. Maybe nostalgia tinted and the fact that I know the whole story already makes some of the stuff that means nothing to new players more significant to the ones that do. They definitely could have done better there but it's amazing when you do understand those little moments and flashbacks/forwards.

    There is a lot of wait and see where this goes even for OG fans if you can be bothered. I love the potential twist of
    Seph and Airith knowing the past timeline and trying to change it.

    The sequels to 7-R will expand in to a FF15 like open world which is why they will be next gen only and part of the reason the first part was Midgar only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭The Phantom Pain


    Aaaand platinum done. Had a blast on Hard Mode. Got to cut out all the fat by skipping unnecessary cut scenes and actually planning out how I was going to tackle my every encounter while playing with top gear and feeling like a badass group.

    The Sephiroth fight is so broken lol. He has absolutely no interest whatsoever in secondary characters which meant I could just use steadfast block with Cloud (who was OP on HP) to fill my ATB while any damage taken was just being healed by Aerith constantly (who was OP on MP) while Tifa would cut him down with Starshower when Cloud wasn't spamming limit breaks and triple slash; it was hilarious. :D

    Even the BS Heartless Angel cast where he reduces your HP to 1 was useless because magnify heal with Aerith instantly restored the party to full health. So yeah, I think those who like punishing difficulty modes or "old school difficulty" (which is not even that difficult hence why a lot of "old school" games can be beaten in a mere few hours) are not going to get much out of this.
    BloodBath wrote: »
    FFXV characters, storyline and systems were total ****e that's why. A very good game in many ways but awful in others. Likewise it's a 100 hour game that would be far better as a more concise 50 hour experience but the japs love a good grindy game.

    IMO 7-R has the best story ever told in a game, best direction, best characters and by far the best soundtrack in any game ever. Maybe nostalgia tinted and the fact that I know the whole story already makes some of the stuff that means nothing to new players more significant to the ones that do. They definitely could have done better there but it's amazing when you do understand those little moments and flashbacks/forwards.

    There is a lot of wait and see where this goes even for OG fans if you can be bothered. I love the potential twist of
    Seph and Airith knowing the past timeline and trying to change it.

    The sequels to 7-R will expand in to a FF15 like open world which is why they will be next gen only and part of the reason the first part was Midgar only.

    I love Final Fantasy XV and I think that's largely because I had no expectations having never played any instalments in the series prior. Loved the characters and the boy band bonding. The latter half where it turns into a linear corridor sequence made me nostalgic for the open world parts which is exactly how you're supposed to feel between the two timelines. In fact, I loved it despite how terrible the day/night cycle, side quests and fast travel tie into one another and how bad the lock-on is in combat.

    Regarding the story in the remake, I did eventually read up on what the whole ending meant and who
    Zack
    is etc but it only really works if you've played the original game. Without it, you'd be like, "who is this random guy with
    black hair
    ? Is it Cloud? It looks like Cloud."

    Overall Hard mode and the trophy hunting upgraded the game from good to very good. Still not sure if I'll come back for a sequel. I've checked and devs did not confirm an open world per se but if they do go down that route I can only imagine how awful the padding would be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,283 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Definitely some strange choices made to service the old fans. I can see how the
    Zack
    moments make no sense for new players. The outcome of them doesn't even make sense for old fans either. TBH they should have been cut from the ending sequence.
    Likewise the Cait Sith (cat thing) scene after the plate falls.
    Yes it's true to the original and you will find out who or what it is in the sequels but it takes away from the tone of that scene and chapter with most new players reactions being wtf is that.

    I think there's no doubt the sequels will have a semi open world of some sort to replace the world map from the original. 15 was a beta test for square to try their hand at that before bringing it to 7 remake and they did a pretty great job at it for their first attempt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭The Phantom Pain


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Likewise the Cait Sith (cat thing) scene after the plate falls.
    Yes it's true to the original and you will find out who or what it is in the sequels but it takes away from the tone of that scene and chapter with most new players reactions being wtf is that.

    Nah, I figured it was referencing something from the original. It was so out of place it had to bel lol. Didn't spoil the tone for me personally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,550 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Intergrade is out on 10th June, I'm mad to play it especially as it has a new mini game boardgame called Fort Condor that sounds like it could be good. I can't pay 70-80 for the PS5 version though just to play the dlc. Cheapest alternative i can find is buying the ps4 version for 35 in smyths, free upgrade to ps5 version and then pay 20 for yuffie dlc so 55 total but again bit much just to play the dlc. Now games should do standalone dlc like last of us and left behind.


  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Intergrade is the remake from a slightly different perspective (Yuffie's)? Am I getting that right? FF7 remake remake...?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    And is there still no word on the pc release?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭lordlame


    Intergrade is the remake from a slightly different perspective (Yuffie's)? Am I getting that right? FF7 remake remake...?

    They’ve done themselves no favours with this - it’s confusing

    I think the gist is:

    Playstation 4 users who purchased ff7 remake and have purchased a ps5 will get the “upgrade” for free.

    Ie they can play the ps5 version of FF7 remake ( 60fps etc )

    The yuffie dlc is an extra cost and is not coming to ps4 as far as I know

    If you buy the ps5 version, it includes the Yuffie dlc ( approx $70 online )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,550 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Yeah, Intergrade is the fancy ps5 upgrade, free for ps4 owners. Yuffie is separate DLC only available on PS5. 20 euro to purchase for ps4 game owners or bundled with the ps5 edition which rrp looks like 80 euro which is ****ing crazy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭skerry


    Can you not buy the DLC for the version of the game that came with PS Plus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,550 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    skerry wrote: »
    Can you not buy the DLC for the version of the game that came with PS Plus?

    Edit:, Jesus i got go slower with my swipe text) Apparently not, no free upgrade, no dlc option i believe. They should have never added it to plus with those arrangements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭skerry


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Sisterly not, no free tighter, no dlc option i believe. They should have never added it to plus with those arrangements.

    Wow, that is classic Sony right there. Always a caveat. Or maybe it was Squenix decision, either way thats some grade A bullsh!t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,258 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    You'll be able to get the dlc eventually on PS4, think it's exclusive to the PS5 for 6 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,618 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    I have the game for the PS4. Have not played the PS4 in a while so sold it and got credit plus 25% and am looking out when they are sold. Kept the game. So my question is once I use my disk with the season pass will I get the Yuffi gameplay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,550 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    The power of the PS5!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭brady12


    Can we pre download ps5 version if we have ps4 version installed already ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,646 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,550 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Sorry I'm missing the point on this

    Ps4 version.

    https://twitter.com/manfightdragon/status/1365119303545102337?s=19


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    And still no feckin PC release date? :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Polar101


    So.. I've got the PS Plus version - does that mean the only way to get the PS5 update is to buy the game?
    I don't really care about the DLC, but is there no update version for PS Plusers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,559 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    Polar101 wrote: »
    So.. I've got the PS Plus version - does that mean the only way to get the PS5 update is to buy the game?
    I don't really care about the DLC, but is there no update version for PS Plusers?

    Afraid so. It's called out specifically for that scenario, ps+ version doesn't get the upgrade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Not a fan of needing to replay chapters to get things you missed, drawback of the game not being 'open world' :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭one armed dwarf


    Kiith wrote: »
    And still no feckin PC release date? :mad:

    The new version of the game is timed exclusive for 'at least' another 6 months, I would not count on a PC release at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭seandotcomm


    Wow they really made that difficult to upgrade from the PS4 version... very complicated altogether


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,449 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Wow they really made that difficult to upgrade from the PS4 version... very complicated altogether

    It’s no doubt difficult but they did warn everyone at the time remake was released on ps plus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,258 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    Wow they really made that difficult to upgrade from the PS4 version... very complicated altogether

    A lot more straightforward than it has been previously.
    The option to upgrade is usually buried in the normal store page whereas there is a separate store page for the upgrade this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭seandotcomm


    A lot more straightforward than it has been previously.
    The option to upgrade is usually buried in the normal store page whereas there is a separate store page for the upgrade this time.

    I think it was because I had bought the physical copy but then later downloaded the digital one as it was free on the PSN so it took a lot of routing around, uninstalling it from the HDD, reinstalling from the disc and then going through the different game pages for a while trying to get the upgrade option to show up


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,258 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    I think it was because I had bought the physical copy but then later downloaded the digital one as it was free on the PSN so it took a lot of routing around, uninstalling it from the HDD, reinstalling from the disc and then going through the different game pages for a while trying to get the upgrade option to show up

    You don't need to install from disc. Insert the play disc, go to the Upgrade listing and away you go.

    On previous upgrades they were hidden behind the 3 dots on the store page and it didn't always allow you to upgrade either. Messy as f.


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