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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #2342
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Very few people in the UK over 50 will not have had a second dose by now or offered one.

    Thats it
    Much bigger risk over here,Astra 1 dose people here aged 50 plus really do need to have that 12 weeks down to 8 and cohort 7's need doing
    Those things can be sorted coinciding with opening the economy more


  • #2343
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Semms to have taken over from the Brazil and UK variants. We have over 100 cases here hopefully it won't spread much here with the vaccination programme. I wonder where the next variant will come from?

    South America I'd imagine. The situation Worldwide is not good atm


  • #2344
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,276 ✭✭✭Allinall


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    I see "Cohort 7" seems to be the latest excuse to keep a noose around the countries neck. I wonder what will be next, when "cohort 7" are done what will the national excuse be then?

    I take it you’re hale and hearty.

    Pity you can’t add sensitivity to those qualities.


  • #2345
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    This is in the UK tonight. Meanwhile I wont be allowed turn on the juke box here in July

    https://twitter.com/phillbarrs/status/1397976942905860103?s=19


  • #2346
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    lucernarian wrote: »
    They're the last vulnerable group awaiting vaccination, that's hardly fair now is it?

    Are they? Do you not care about the vulnerable people who might fall outside the defined cohort 7?

    For some there will always be more vulnerable people.

    I fully expect that when the HSE finally decide to release the current death figures that we will find that the covid death rate has already dropped to effectively zero. Just as predicted, and yet it won't matter, we will still have that boot on our neck because some people will always be looking to the next scariant or using some cohort as justification for further restrictions.

    Vaccines clearly have already broken the back of this pandemic, we do not need to wait until every single last potentially vulnerable person on the island is fully vaccinated.


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  • #2347
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Allinall wrote: »
    I take it you’re hale and hearty.

    Pity you can’t add sensitivity to those qualities.

    Virtue signalling nonsense.

    It must break your heart to know that over 30000 people die in Ireland every year.


  • #2348
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    I see "Cohort 7" seems to be the latest excuse to keep a noose around the countries neck. I wonder what will be next, when "cohort 7" are done what will the national excuse be then?

    You need BOTH doses to be fully protected.
    It’s getting predictable now.


  • #2349
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    We're doing well. Once we don't have a pint after 11.30pm. That will screw it all up.


  • #2350
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,276 ✭✭✭Allinall


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Virtue signalling nonsense.

    It must break your heart to know that over 30000 people die in Ireland every year.

    Why would it?

    Are you that desperate to go for a pint?


  • #2351
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Are they? Do you not care about the vulnerable people who might fall outside the defined cohort 7?

    For some there will always be more vulnerable people.

    I fully expect that when the HSE finally decide to release the current death figures that we will find that the covid death rate has already dropped to effectively zero. Just as predicted, and yet it won't matter, we will still have that boot on our neck because some people will always be looking to the next scariant or using some cohort as justification for further restrictions.

    Vaccines clearly have already broken the back of this pandemic, we do not need to wait until every single last potentially vulnerable person on the island is fully vaccinated.
    Cohort 7 were identified because of the moderate-high risk they are at based on a huge review of the evidence over the past year. That number has dwindled rapidly, but still thousands left to do. In Drogheda, there were over 1000 over 60s waiting on a dose today as reported in the dáil. These two situations are going to be dealt with in the next 3 weeks roughly. While that's going on, we can and should be reopening up.


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  • #2352
    [Deleted User]
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    Allinall wrote: »
    Why would it?

    Are you that desperate to go for a pint?

    Ah that tired old argument again…


  • #2353
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Allinall wrote: »
    Why would it?

    Are you that desperate to go for a pint?

    Such a pathetic response.


  • #2354
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ah that tired old argument again…

    "I don't care about the livelihoods of others provided mine is unaffected".


  • #2355
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Surely the older people in cohort 7 are also getting vaccinated via the over 45 portal. Not ideal but at least they're not being totally neglected.


  • #2356
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,024 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    "I don't care about the livelihoods of others provided mine is unaffected".

    Ah that tired old argument again…


  • #2357
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    prunudo wrote: »
    Surely the older people in cohort 7 are also getting vaccinated via the over 45 portal. Not ideal but at least they're not being totally neglected.
    Yeah the older ones, not the younger ones with better-controlled T1DM or obesity for example. Hospitals have targeted different patients arbitrarily, some relying on the most recent blood test (when blood tests/clinics were being cancelled in 2020), others just by merely being on their list of patients without regards to other criteria.


  • #2358
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    lucernarian wrote: »
    Why doesn't this have its own thread? By the standards of moderation here: if I open a thread about Joe Biden's announcement, and Anthony Fauci no longer being confident that it has a natural origin, as widely reported across ALL news channels today, should it still get sent to Conspiracy Theories like the other threads have?

    It really should have its own thread here..one was started but ended up not being a totally serious conversation ?(possibly got bogged down with entrenched geo political issues?)and got transfered to CA from what I remember if correct.

    yes it should have its own thread to look at and discuss all the surrounding evidence ..circumstantial and scientific from all possible angles and hypotheses (plural).

    I have been adding the odd post here.....as whatever the outcomes they may have
    -potential effects on the science community re research/funding
    -future pandemic policys
    -geo political sitation
    - wildlife policy
    - how r and d maybe useful or misused
    and most importantly possibly treatments especially for those who cannot take vaccines or have post viral issues etc.

    Also I think some of the public are tired now of everything or concentrating on the rollout and some dont understand all its ramifications... or see it as a binary geo political issue?

    I would love some of the more science heads here to contribute... to learn more so as to be able follow the experts as they discuss the details worldwide and be able to delve in to everything I have saved over the last 15 months at a deeper level by discussing it from all sides of all hypotheses.

    We need to know whatever the outcome(s).


  • #2359
    PopTarts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭PopTarts


    Will there/has there be/been much leaks from tomorrow’s announcement?

    Anything around travel?

    I guess with them extending the hotel mandatory quarantine they’ll be strict enough on travel.


  • #2360
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    speckle wrote: »
    It really should have its own thread here..one was started but ended up not being a totally serious conversation ?(possibly got bogged down with entrenched geo political issues?)and got transfered to CA from what I remember if correct.

    yes it should have its own thread to look at and discuss all the surrounding evidence ..circumstantial and scientific from all possible angles and hypotheses (plural).

    I have been adding the odd post here.....as whatever the outcomes they may have
    -potential effects on the science community re research/funding
    -future pandemic policys
    -geo political sitation
    - wildlife policy
    - how r and d maybe useful or misused
    and most importantly possibly treatments especially for those who cannot take vaccines or have post viral issues etc.

    Also I think some of the public are tired now of everything or concentrating on the rollout and some dont understand all its ramifications... or see it as a binary geo political issue?

    I would love some of the more science heads here to contribute... to learn more so as to be able follow the experts as they discuss the details worldwide and be able to delve in to everything I have saved over the last 15 months at a deeper level by discussing it from all sides of all hypotheses.

    We need to know whatever the outcome(s).
    if you are qualified enough in this field, you're more than likely working long days and nights in academia, dealing with funding, grants, projects, paper submissions, and potentially extra burdens directly from covid. All of my relevant friends are in that situation, busy either working or trying to survive and not posting on Boards.ie


  • #2361
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    lucernarian wrote: »
    if you are qualified enough in this field, you're more than likely working long days and nights in academia, dealing with funding, grants, projects, paper submissions, and potentially extra burdens directly from covid. All of my relevant friends are in that situation, busy either working or trying to survive and not posting on Boards.ie

    Very true..but yet I still think it should be discussed by more 'ordinary' folk as all the potential hypotheses and their ramifications will effect us the public...so we need to know what they are talking about...


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  • #2362
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    What is it with this Government and NEPHET and antigen testing ? There has to be a sinister reason behind it at this stage. Shocking stuff.

    https://twitter.com/alanGbrereton/status/1397863842495991811?s=19


  • #2363
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    What is it with this Government and NEPHET and antigen testing ? There has to be a sinister reason behind it at this stage. Shocking stuff.

    https://twitter.com/alanGbrereton/status/1397863842495991811?s=19

    It's puzzling alright but sinister?!


  • #2364
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    prunudo wrote: »
    Surely the older people in cohort 7 are also getting vaccinated via the over 45 portal. Not ideal but at least they're not being totally neglected.

    Think of all the 18 -45 year olds in cohort 7
    With Cystic Fibrosis , Type 1 diabetics , young transplant patients , young people with congenital heart defects , young people who are immuno compromised etc
    All waiting to get vaccinated and no help from the HSE helpline or from GPs
    I dont think many are aware of the sheer neglect of this cohort and the upset and anxiety it is causing

    They were assigned cohort 7 for a reason and now forgotten and left behind other groups


  • #2365
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Might prove to better to be cautious with re-opening given what this Indian Variant is going to do in area's with low 2 dose vaccination rates.

    https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1397995388267810818


  • #2366
    Timmy O Toole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭Timmy O Toole


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Think of all the 18 -45 year olds in cohort 7
    With Cystic Fibrosis , Type 1 diabetics , young transplant patients , young people with congenital heart defects , young people who are immuno compromised etc
    All waiting to get vaccinated and no help from the HSE helpline or from GPs
    I dont think many are aware of the sheer neglect of this cohort and the upset and anxiety it is causing

    My wife is in cohort 7 I presume. 28 years old with blood clotting issue. Got her second dose last week. Just because you haven't got yours yet doesn't mean anything


  • #2367
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    My wife is in cohort 7 I presume. 28 years old with blood clotting issue. Got her second dose last week. Just because you haven't got yours yet doesn't mean anything

    I am not in cohort 7 . I got mine thank you
    And just because your wife got it doesn’t mean others did. There are many in that group whos GP’s are not vaccinating group 7 . They are left in limbo .


  • #2368
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Timmy O Toole wrote: »
    What is it with this Government and NEPHET and antigen testing ? There has to be a sinister reason behind it at this stage. Shocking stuff.

    https://twitter.com/alanGbrereton/status/1397863842495991811?s=19

    I believe what that is the EU have detailed self tests (Antigen) for travel purposes are not permitted for the present

    All tests whether PCR or Antigen must be undertaken and verified by a professional service
    Quote:
    Which tests will be accepted?

    So-called *NAAT tests (including RT-PCR tests) and rapid antigen tests will be recognised. For the time being, this will not include self-tests.

    https://www.euronews.com/2021/05/21/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-eu-s-covid-travel-pass

    So nothing 'sinister'


  • #2369
    basill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭basill


    No it is clear the Donnelly either didn't know that the EU was allowing antigen testing as part of the Digital Green Cert or he did but was attempting to push sticking with PCR testing alone despite the fact that there is no scientific basis for this. Whatever way you look at it the guy is looking more out of touch as the days go on.


  • #2370
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Am over focussed on this myself, but has anyone actually read the reason for the 105 minutes - the health advice/reasoning for it?


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  • #2371
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    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Am over focussed on this myself, but has anyone actually read the reason for the 105 minutes - the health advice/reasoning for it?

    Apparently Covid gets tetchy in close quarters and hails a taxi. A fickle creature but a cheap date.


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