She has a name

Wouldn't be a news headline if she wasnt a woman in fairness. Some people are so sensitive.

Pussyhands wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0525/1223803-major-general-maureen-obrien/

Headline reads on RTE website: "Woman appointed to 2nd highest rank in Defence Forces"

I think it's rather sad that one of the country's main proponents for supposed egalitarianism, RTE, whittles this woman down to, not her achievements or ambitions, but her gender.

"hey everyone, a woman got the job!" is how this reads when it should read "hey everyone, Maureen O'Brien who's been in the force for X years and served on X missions has been appointed to the role"

Could they not have lead with her name and alluded to the fact she was the first ever woman appointed to the post?

Did you not hear her speech? She was pushing the gender thing.. Then Simon Coveney saying there are lots of tasks that women can do that men can’t, such as looking after sexual abuse victims. The whole thing from start to finish was puke inducing.

Gatling wrote: »

Bet she's getting less than your man who was there before her

Not sure if this is being tongue in cheek or simply moronic

Her hair looked lovely on the news

Fake Donald up above. Don't mind him.





Anyway, I'm sure they all have lovely bottoms.

Not sure I get this. The news is in the fact that she's the first woman ever to reach that position in the Defence Forces. Her gender is literally the news angle.

The story clarifies the situation and really doesn't "reduce her to her gender". News headlines have to be short and to the point and basically capture what the "news" is. In this case the story is that she's the first woman to achieve this position.

I mean, it's not a gendered thing. People are very regularly referred to as man or woman with news of historic or quirky firsts, unless the person in question is already famous or quite well known.

In fact on the contrary, your suggestion that it should have been "Maureen O'Brien gets X role" as a headline, then clarity given in the story "Oh by the way, she's the first woman to ever achieve this position, so this is a historic day" is a bit silly and does a disservice to it.

Big Gerry wrote: »

Shes looks like a harmless Granny.

A granny with the keys to our gigantic collection of nukes....

We got nukes, right?...

jackboy wrote: »

Did you not hear her speech? She was pushing the gender thing.. Then Simon Coveney saying there are lots of tasks that women can do that men can’t, such as looking after sexual abuse victims. The whole thing from start to finish was puke inducing.

I sincerely hope you're ok after your experience.

There are people out there that can help you, so don't be afraid to reach out.

Identity politics at work in RTE newsroom.

MikeOxsgreen wrote: »

I'm almost as shocked as the army lads there's a sailor in charge of the defence forces.

I hear the naval service do training in the Curragh...is there a canal up there that practice in?

There's no big deal op.
I get what you are saying, but it's all about making people click into an article. Especially knowing that they have limited amount of characters in the article title on mobiles. So what would intrigue people more, saying her name (which no one knew before yesterday) or saying "first woman..."

Montage of Feck wrote: »

How many men has she killed?

Something tells me men aren't her thing.

There was a woman in a place where I used to work and we only found out after a few years that her real name wasn't actually "sugar tits". Her birth cert name was actually "Mary"


Although why her parents had insisted on bringing her up as "sugar tits" is beyond me.


Then again, they were from Offaly

TP_CM wrote: »

I think that would ignore one of the main points of the article which is that she is female. It's incredibly hard for a female to rise to that level in that line of work. Sure, we can ignore that if we want and document things as if women and men are equal, but to do so would be to completely ignore reality - which is that right now women and men don't progress equally in organisations such as the army. We might not like that fact but changing what is reported doesn't change what's really happening.

Proportionally fewer women go for ANY job in the PDF,not just cadetships and they are less likely to stick it out to get to the top. Every job in the DF is open to women, unlike in many foreign armies that will not allow them to even compete for a particular job. Every year, recruiters go out to all the schools and give career guidance talks to all students and every year, the female uptake is woeful. If a woman passes a cadetship and take sup a post and then stays in it, she is at the tip of a very long line of people who considered it, maybe even tried it and ultimately dropped out.