Eurovision Song Contest 2021

Oymyakon · 25-05-2021 4:21pm

Pussyhands wrote: »

Didn't a guy play the drums the last night?

Pretty sure all the instrumentation is mimed, I got a laugh from the Portuguese guy putting the guitar down before the solo ended on BOTH their performances!!

doc22 · 25-05-2021 4:42pm

Pussyhands wrote: »

Our song wasn't bad, it's just Lesley Roy sounded like when you try to sing when you have a terrible cold and sore throat. The auto tune was clearly carrying her. I never heard of her before eurovision.

I think if we sold our identity to the europeans we might do alright, have a modern song with some accordion or violin played into it. Have a hot ginger girl sing it and have a little solo where she does some Irish dancing.

Don't think that works.....

tv3tg4 · 25-05-2021 4:49pm

I would send the walls or the frank and Walters.

We need a pop tune with heart.

Eivor · 25-05-2021 4:55pm

doc22 wrote: »

Don't think that works.....

I think the problem with those 2 is that they are awful songs.

Eivor · 25-05-2021 4:57pm

I think someone like Roisin Murphy would be great for us but I don’t think she’d do it.

saabsaab · 25-05-2021 5:07pm

Get Bob Dylan hasn't he some Irish connections?

Elmo · 25-05-2021 5:09pm

saabsaab wrote: »

Get Bob Dylan hasn't he some Irish connections?

You don't need Irish Connections to Write or sing the song for Ireland or any country in the Eurovision.

AFAIK the singer for the UK wrote one of our songs.

Welsh Megaman · 25-05-2021 5:26pm

Three days on, and I’m starting to like the German song more than I should.

captbarnacles · 25-05-2021 7:16pm

Pussyhands wrote: »

Our song wasn't bad, it's just Lesley Roy sounded like when you try to sing when you have a terrible cold and sore throat. The auto tune was clearly carrying her. I never heard of her before eurovision.

I think if we sold our identity to the europeans we might do alright, have a modern song with some accordion or violin played into it. Have a hot ginger girl sing it and have a little solo where she does some Irish dancing.

Listen to the Irish song and then the French song afterwards. The gap in ability is ridiculous.

Strazdas · 25-05-2021 7:57pm

captbarnacles wrote: »

Listen to the Irish song and then the French song afterwards. The gap in ability is ridiculous.

This happened even in the semi. Ireland was followed straight after by Cyprus (Elena - 'El Diablo') and the gulf in class was so obvious - and that's a song that didn't even make top 10 in the final.

Speakerboxx · 25-05-2021 8:13pm

The song that won eurovision was pure scutter.

It also shows that having naked and sexy women in knee high boots doesn't win it either. Trying to find the perfect balance will be a mystery.

patscott27 · 25-05-2021 8:45pm

Its only a what if but let's say we did sneak into the final does anyone think we would have ended up on nul points like the UK?

External Association · 25-05-2021 8:58pm

I've listened to the Ukraine again to see could I 'get' it. I can't, it's horrendous, screeching, her look, the green feathers. An awful ethnic/gypsy eastern European vibe that sounds primitive, like human's first attempt at making music.

Italy at least sounds a little like the Arctic Monkeys- I bet that you look good on the dance floor.

Capt'n Midnight · 25-05-2021 8:59pm

fryup wrote: »

you know for a country that has given us the best pop/rock artists in the world their eurovision success has been very mediocre at best...how come they never sent Right said Fred, Rick Astley, Lisa Stansfield, Spice Girls etc etc...they have loads of singers & songwriters to choose from

Spice Girls live ?

AFAIK Their records were assembled from the best bits of multiple takes down to the point of assembling word by word in some cases.

saabsaab · 25-05-2021 8:59pm

We should send a song in our own language.

External Association · 25-05-2021 9:01pm

patscott27 wrote: »

Its only a what if but let's say we did sneak into the final does anyone think we would have ended up on nul points like the UK?

A lot of recent Irish songs are better off they went out in the semi, spare them the embarassment of the final.

Molly Sterling- Playing with Numbers in 2015 should have made it through.

We're 13 years post Dustin, so it's more a case of poor songs with the odd exception in the last decade.

bladespin · 25-05-2021 9:04pm

External Association wrote: »

Italy at least sounds a little like the Arctic Monkeys- I bet that you look good on the dance floor.

Thought Rage against the machine myself, some EV songs are just bad copies of others.

External Association · 25-05-2021 9:04pm

saabsaab wrote: »

We should send a song in our own language.

Ceol an ghrá 1972. Came second or third.

https://youtu.be/DJzhQz4V2CU

doc22 · 25-05-2021 9:16pm

Speakerboxx wrote: »

The song that won eurovision was pure scutter.

It also shows that having naked and sexy women in knee high boots doesn't win it either. Trying to find the perfect balance will be a mystery.

Well, look at popularity on youtube and voting and imagine the Irish version of say 'El Diablo'....Being young pretty and visually appealing helps.

CruelSummer · 25-05-2021 9:26pm

One thing that’s a mystery to me is Malta’s placing in the final. Looking up semi final 1 results, it was at the top of the 10 that qualified there. Being placed 6th in the final almost certainly affected the public vote.

Pussyhands · 25-05-2021 9:39pm

doc22 wrote: »

Don't think that works.....

Ah well, Dervish is too much diddly aye.

Kasey Smith one was kind of along the lines but not sure about the kilts, very scottish. And she was dressed like a Pharaoh. I think something like the Corrs "runaway" with the violin having a prominent role.

saabsaab · 25-05-2021 9:44pm

Something like this updated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELLh0BnY0fc

doc22 · 25-05-2021 9:52pm

Pussyhands wrote: »

Ah well, Dervish is too much diddly aye.

Kasey Smith one was kind of along the lines but not sure about the kilts, very scottish. And she was dressed like a Pharaoh. I think something like the Corrs "runaway" with the violin having a prominent role.

So one of Ireland's most popular acts most popular songs 20 years ago....

What makes you think that genre would be popular in Europe now when it's not even popular here and very bland much like maps this year, I don't think a violin would save it:pac:

fryup · 25-05-2021 9:54pm

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Spice Girls live ?

AFAIK Their records were assembled from the best bits of multiple takes down to the point of assembling word by word in some cases.

Perfect for the eurovision then

Ash.J.Williams · 25-05-2021 10:00pm

We need an Irish rammstein

iffandonlyif · 25-05-2021 10:00pm

saabsaab wrote: »

We should send a song in our own language.

We already do.

ACitizenErased · 25-05-2021 10:04pm

We need to send something modern and current. People like Allie Sherlock have massive youtube followings and write their own songs. Send one of them. Already known, have a European fanbase. Maneskin are massively famous on the continent and look what happened.

ACitizenErased · 25-05-2021 10:05pm

Would love to see Chasing Abbey or Wild Youth sent.

iffandonlyif · 25-05-2021 10:27pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

We need to send something modern and current. People like Allie Sherlock have massive youtube followings and write their own songs. Send one of them. Already known, have a European fanbase. Maneskin are massively famous on the continent and look what happened.

That’s actually a fairly good shout. With the greatest of respect to Allie Sherlock, she’s a busker who doesn’t have credibility to lose. As a sixteen (or whatever) year old, a Eurovision appearance is a perfectly credible early career move for her.

Strazdas · 25-05-2021 11:53pm

ACitizenErased wrote: »

We need to send something modern and current. People like Allie Sherlock have massive youtube followings and write their own songs. Send one of them. Already known, have a European fanbase. Maneskin are massively famous on the continent and look what happened.

Yes, Allie would be a very interesting choice. She has a quite massive following on social media and might well be up for it. She's a bit rough around the edges vocally but with the right song and perhaps a bit of vocal coaching, she could make an impact.

If not her, perhaps Sibéal with a song in Irish or even someone like Denise Chaila.

25-05-2021 11:57pm

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes, Allie would be a very interesting choice. She has a quite massive following on social media and might well be up for it. She's a bit rough around the edges vocally but with the right song and perhaps a bit of vocal coaching, she could make an impact.

If not her, perhaps Sibéal with a song in Irish or even someone like Denise Chaila.

Can under 18s compete in Eurovision?

raclle · 26-05-2021 12:01am

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Maneskin are massively famous on the continent and look what happened.

Never even heard of them until now

Strazdas · 26-05-2021 12:11am

Deleted User wrote: »

Can under 18s compete in Eurovision?

They can indeed. Open to anyone over the age of 16 on the day the contest takes place.

bfa1509 · 26-05-2021 12:30am

Could not be aresed reading through 135 pages so don't know what the consensus is. But Ukraine, Lithuania, Finland gave me some hope that the Eurovision will not be as sh*te as it has been for the last 20 years.

Maybe we could see a return of something more accessible for everyone next year? If so, I'm looking forward to it already.

External Association · 26-05-2021 12:39am

Strazdas wrote: »

Yes, Allie would be a very interesting choice. She has a quite massive following on social media and might well be up for it. She's a bit rough around the edges vocally but with the right song and perhaps a bit of vocal coaching, she could make an impact.

If not her, perhaps Sibéal with a song in Irish or even someone like Denise Chaila.

Sibéal would be an Eimear Quinn modern day version. She's a great singer and looks well, and with a good song could deliver. Think how she performed Mise Eire in Centenary in 2016.

Deffo not Damien Dempsey, even in English he'd sound like a different language! In my opinion he's a very poor man's Luke Kelly or Liam Clancy. DC Fontaine etc all interesting.

26-05-2021 9:58am

Strazdas wrote: »

They can indeed. Open to anyone over the age of 16 on the day the contest takes place.

Cool. I reckon Allie would be a good shout. She has such a unique voice, can play a guitar and already has a following.

daretodream · 26-05-2021 12:56pm

Happy to say that I had ITALY to win. I've had the winner for years now...it isn't that difficult to pick the best song. Not everyone's preference, but I felt they were the best by a mile this year.

doc22 · 26-05-2021 1:38pm

daretodream wrote: »

Happy to say that I had ITALY to win. I've had the winner for years now...it isn't that difficult to pick the best song. Not everyone's preference, but I felt they were the best by a mile this year.

daretodream wrote: »

Iceland was fairly boring for me, nowhere near as good as Switzerland. My money is on the Swiss this year. Will be interesting to see how they all compare with the staging etc but the Swiss guy can really sing, would be a worthy winner.

OK sure you can.....

ohnonotgmail · 26-05-2021 2:19pm

doc22 wrote: »

OK sure you can.....

top detective work.

daretodream · 26-05-2021 2:20pm

doc22 wrote: »

OK sure you can.....

That was before I heard Italy, thank you very much. Italy were way better in the end and I feel they deserved to win.

yerwanthere123 · 26-05-2021 4:02pm

Finally caught up on the thread. There's some very... strange suggestions being made on here. Sinéad O'Connor for Eurovision for Christ's sake :rolleyes: Doesn't matter who we send, could be the biggest name in the country or a complete unknown. Once the song is good that's all that matters.

AndyBoBandy · 26-05-2021 4:20pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Doesn't matter who we send, could be the biggest name in the country or a complete unknown.

Genuinely surprised that no one (in RTÉ) has suggested sending Nathan Carter, singing some kind of huckle buck country number.......

He is both one of the biggest names in the country, while also being a complete unknown....

yerwanthere123 · 26-05-2021 4:28pm

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Genuinely surprised that no one (in RTÉ) has suggested sending Nathan Carter, singing some kind of huckle buck country number.......

He is both one of the biggest names in the country, while also being a complete unknown....

Doubt he'd want to do it. As people have already mentioned on the thread we've inherited the British snobbery towards the competition, and most who've partaken subsequently pretend it never happened. Although that probably has a lot to do with how poorly they perform also.

I'd love to know if behind the scenes RTÉ are actually trying to make an effort and asking some of our bigger names, or if it's just a case of sending anyone to fill the slot. Because if this is genuinely the best RTÉ can do, well that's a scary thought.

LordBasil · 26-05-2021 4:46pm

Yeah it's unfortunate so many of our best singers won't go near Eurovision. Maybe seeing acts like Maneskin, Go_A, Barbara Pravi, Blind Channel & Gjon's Tears do so well this year may inspire some of them to think about putting themselves forward. We live in hope!

Busi_Girl08 · 26-05-2021 4:51pm

LordBasil wrote: »

Yeah it's unfortunate so many of our best singers won't go near Eurovision. Maybe seeing acts like Maneskin, Go_A, Barbara Pravi, Blind Channel & Gjon's Tears do so well this year may inspire some of them to think about putting themselves forward. We live in hope!

Then again you have Flo Rida getting 13 points, and a well established band like Hooverphonics getting 3 from the public...

LordBasil · 26-05-2021 5:03pm

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

Then again you have Flo Rida getting 13 points, and a well established band like Hooverphonics getting 3 from the public...

There is a risk of failure in any competition and Eurovision is no different, regardless of how famous or successful someone has been.

DebDynamite · 26-05-2021 10:55pm

I woke up Sunday morning with the baseline of the Italian song in my head and it won’t leave. I’d love to see someone like them live right now!

bobbyss · 27-05-2021 8:02am

yerwanthere123 wrote:

Finally caught up on the thread. There's some very... strange suggestions being made on here. SinÃ©ad O'Connor for Eurovision for Christ's sake Doesn't matter who we send, could be the biggest name in the country or a complete unknown. Once the song is good that's all that matters.

Sinead O'C would need to smarten herself up a lot. Anytime i see photos of her she couldn't look dowdier.
Not a fan of her. She's probably rip up a picture of someone who happened to be in the news at the time. But maybe she might grow up a bit in the meantime.

bobbyss · 27-05-2021 8:02am

yerwanthere123 wrote:

Finally caught up on the thread. There's some very... strange suggestions being made on here. SinÃ©ad O'Connor for Eurovision for Christ's sake Doesn't matter who we send, could be the biggest name in the country or a complete unknown. Once the song is good that's all that matters.

Sinead O'C would need to smarten herself up a lot. Anytime i see photos of her she couldn't look dowdier.
Not a fan of her. She's probably rip up a picture of someone who happened to be in the news at the time. But maybe she might grow up a bit in the meantime.

Elmo · 27-05-2021 9:49am

DebDynamite wrote: »

I woke up Sunday morning with the baseline of the Italian song in my head and it won’t leave. I’d love to see someone like them live right now!

Ha I woke up Monday to someone on the BBC talking about the UK entry (and playing it) only to have the chorus in my head for 2 days.

Ukraine where robbed :pac:

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