Conspiracy Theorists

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 12:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But then...the whole premise of this thread is a lie... It's almost as if.....

Oh man, we are through the looking glass.

Not a lie. Listen to them talking about George Soros. They come to same consensus after awhile and will agree with other theories from that.

Dohnjoe · 25-05-2021 12:40PM

Stuff like "Qanon" demonstrates that someone on the internet can make up the most ridiculous absurd conspiracy - as long as it feeds into people's biases and prejudice and skewed world views it can gain traction

25-05-2021 12:40PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Not a lie. Listen to them talking about George Soros. They come to same consensus after awhile and will agree with other theories from that.

Who exactly are you talking about?

We've established that not all conspiracy theories hold the same weight, we've established that some conspiracy theories end up proven facts, we've established that even the most outlandish theorists differ when it comes to the same theories

Is the whole premise of your post that some people believe mad stuff and you think they are all right wing homophobes?

Hardly radical thinking.

25-05-2021 12:40PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Stuff like "Qanon" demonstrates that someone on the internet can make up the most ridiculous absurd conspiracy - as long as it feeds into people's biases and prejudice and skewed world views it can gain traction

The Bible is a better one.

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 01:01PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who exactly are you talking about?

We've established that not all conspiracy theories hold the same weight, we've established that some conspiracy theories end up proven facts, we've established that even the most outlandish theorists differ when it comes to the same theories

Is the whole premise of your post that some people believe mad stuff and you think they are all right wing homophobes?

Hardly radical thinking.

Not proven false by the conspiracy theorists. And they will defend that. That is my argument. Go to a house party post Covid and listen to them.

growleaves · 25-05-2021 01:27PM

A lot of conspiracy theories are weak and fantastical.

However if not trusting currency speculators and tech monopolists is the standard by which someone's pov is considered unsound then you might as well just say 'There are no bad people' and leave it at that.

Everyone knows how Soros made his money. Even some of his old business partners like Jim Rogers hate and mistrust him. Why the average person is expected to take him at face value is anyone's guess.

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 01:30PM

growleaves wrote: »

A lot of conspiracy theories are weak and fantastical.

However if not trusting currency speculators and tech monopolists is the standard by which someone's pov is considered unsound then you might as well just say 'There are no bad people' and leave it at that.

Everyone knows how Soros made his money. Even some of his old business partners like Jim Rogers hate and mistrust him. Why the average person is expected to take him at face value is anyone's guess.

But does he pump money to undermine systems? Where can I sign up?

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 01:34PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who exactly are you talking about?

We've established that not all conspiracy theories hold the same weight, we've established that some conspiracy theories end up

I'm saying the theorist. Not the theories.

Nothing radical sir.

sydthebeat · 25-05-2021 01:37PM

lots of people suffer from undiagnosed apophenia

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 01:40PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

lots of people suffer from undiagnosed apophenia

Is it from smoking weed?

sydthebeat · 25-05-2021 01:43PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Is it from smoking weed?

course not

sabat · 25-05-2021 01:49PM

YFlyer wrote: »

But does he pump money to undermine systems? Where can I sign up?

Look at the funding of nearly any "foundation" or NGO trying to affect some kind of societal "change" in Ireland and you will see The Open Foundation listed amongst the donors. It is a fair question to ask why we should take a convicted inside trader and currency speculator who caused hardship to millions at his word.

Dohnjoe · 25-05-2021 01:50PM

growleaves wrote: »

However if not trusting currency speculators and tech monopolists is the standard by which someone's pov is considered unsound then you might as well just say 'There are no bad people' and leave it at that.

A normal rational person applies healthy skepticism to any situation.

Irrational people with extreme world views filter information according to their biases and confuse that with skepticism.

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 01:51PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

course not

Thanks. I'll research it later.

c.p.w.g.w · 25-05-2021 01:54PM

DaTown wrote: »

Would the Chinese lab leak be considered a conspiracy theory?

If you believe the virus was man made then yes...

But that the lab was doing work on the virus, and it escaped is highly likely what happened...might explain why early on that outdoor transmission was apparently non existent, as the virus probably evolved with in a lab setting, and thus had no need to protect itself from UV rays

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 01:54PM

sabat wrote: »

Look at the funding of nearly any "foundation" or NGO trying to affect some kind of societal "change" in Ireland and you will see The Open Foundation listed amongst the donors. It is a fair question to ask why we should take a convicted inside trader and currency speculator who caused hardship to millions at his word.

As University of Newcastle? Can you give examples?

Dohnjoe · 25-05-2021 01:55PM

sabat wrote: »

Look at the funding of nearly any "foundation" or NGO trying to affect some kind of societal "change" in Ireland and you will see The Open Foundation listed amongst the donors. It is a fair question to ask why we should take a convicted inside trader and currency speculator who caused hardship to millions at his word.

Conspiracy theorists and those with extreme beliefs love to "ask questions" to create innuendo. They often have little interest in solid details/facts, which they seem allergic to.

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 01:56PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

If you believe the virus was man made then yes...

But that the lab was doing work on the virus, and it escaped is highly likely what happened...might explain why early on that outdoor transmission was apparently non existent, as the virus probably evolved with in a lab setting, and thus had no need to protect itself from UV rays

Book was edited.

Dohnjoe · 25-05-2021 01:56PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

If you believe the virus was man made then yes...

But that the lab was doing work on the virus, and it escaped is highly likely what happened...might explain why early on that outdoor transmission was apparently non existent, as the virus probably evolved with in a lab setting, and thus had no need to protect itself from UV rays

This is the wrong way to think about it.

It can't be ruled out that it escaped from a lab, but there is no direct evidence for that theory. So logically it's wrong to say that it's "highly likely".

EmmetSpiceland · 25-05-2021 02:07PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think most modern conspiracy sites are fronts for the far right.

The Covid pandemic was a real “boon” for this lot.

25-05-2021 02:10PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Conspiracy theorists and those with extreme beliefs love to "ask questions" to create innuendo. They often have little interest in solid details/facts, which they seem allergic to.

And conversely, people who have a genuine interest in facts and in asking questions are often labelled as conspiracy theorists.

sabat · 25-05-2021 02:10PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Conspiracy theorists and those with extreme beliefs love to "ask questions" to create innuendo. They often have little interest in solid details/facts, which they seem allergic to.

George Soros' speculative activities on the GBP and Asian currencies in the 90s caused huge economic and societal damage. This is a fact. He has been convicted of insider trading in France. This is a fact.

Dohnjoe · 25-05-2021 02:16PM

sabat wrote: »

George Soros' speculative activities on the GBP and Asian currencies in the 90s caused huge economic and societal damage. This is a fact. He has been convicted of insider trading in France. This is a fact.

We know.

I am referring to all the silly conspiracy theories about him that blame him for virtually everything. He's now superseded by Bill Gates who the conspiracy community have decided is the new "villain".

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 02:48PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

We know.

I am referring to all the silly conspiracy theories about him that blame him for virtually everything. He's now superseded by Bill Gates who the conspiracy community have decided is the new "villain".

Are the Rothschilds insignificant now?

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 02:50PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The Covid pandemic was a real “boon” for this lot.

Bet some made a living from it.

YFlyer · 25-05-2021 02:52PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And conversely, people who have a genuine interest in facts and in asking questions are often labelled as conspiracy theorists.

They're not. They never give references. Just the banal phrase 'research it'

Dohnjoe · 25-05-2021 02:57PM

YFlyer wrote: »

Are the Rothschilds insignificant now?

Rothschilds are so early 2000's, even Gates is getting old, Fauci is the new hotness. The latest is that he created Covid, not kidding.

silliussoddius · 25-05-2021 02:58PM

YFlyer wrote: »

They're not. They never give references. Just the banal phrase 'research it'

And the youtube videos, good god!

25-05-2021 03:04PM

Conspiracy theorists do this. Conspiracy theorists do that. Sinister right-wing forces. And even, Lord Help Us, religious types! GASP Where's me pearls?

It's all a bit conspiratorial from the anti-conspiracy crowd.

Which is what happens when you stare into the abyss.

EmmetSpiceland · 25-05-2021 03:13PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Rothschilds are so early 2000's, even Gates is getting old, Fauci is the new hotness. The latest is that he created Covid, not kidding.

Sure some people, even ones on this very site, believe that Dr Tony Holohan has some sort of “vendetta” against the drinking class of this country.

It’s truly bizarre the levels of “fetishising” this has received. Desperate lads taking all their impotent rage out on a medical professional doing his best to get us through this crisis.

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