Star Wars: The Mandalorian [ Spoilers ] [Disney+] (US Pace)

Agent Coulson · 23-05-2021 11:31am

Bill Burr's character is grand for a bit of comic relief once a season, I wouldn't be building a whole series around him.

pixelburp · 23-05-2021 11:48am

I wonder is this a fishing expedition with Disney. That basically any and all characters are being workshopped as spin off material, then intentionally leaked to see what the social media uptick is. Bill Burr feels very left field, and also wouldn't have ever thought could hold a whole show together.

Need a Username · 24-05-2021 7:19pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I wonder is this a fishing expedition with Disney. That basically any and all characters are being workshopped as spin off material, then intentionally leaked to see what the social media uptick is. Bill Burr feels very left field, and also wouldn't have ever thought could hold a whole show together.

No it is just nonsensical Internet speculation as always - someone has to be related and everyone gets their own show or movie

Need a Username · 24-05-2021 7:20pm

Tony EH wrote: »

I don't think any of the side characters so far has had the umph needed for an entire show.

TBH, I'm happy that this New Republic malarkey never got off the ground. It never sounded that interesting in the first place.

How was it not interesting?

No one at Lucasfilm ever said what it was about

Need a Username · 24-05-2021 7:28pm

pixelburp wrote: »

The "rangers of the new republic" spin off is officially dead in the water apparently; no longer in "active development" according to sources. Didn't get the sense this was ever that far into production but you'd imagine the kerfuffle with Carano definitively killed it off.

Not dead just shelved for the time being.

Both Favereau and Filoni have a lot on at the moment with bother series and other work that isn’t Star Wars and Filoni being the head creative which he should have been since Lucas left.

The crossover event series is still years off and there is plenty of time to get Rangers done before that. Or possibly do to to the workload they decided Rangers is a show that could come after the crossover - introduce those characters in that series instead.

There is no way Carano getting the chop is what got Rangers shelved. She is not lead star material by any means and even if she was the lead she could easily be replaced rather then abandon the project. Plus it is Rangers not Ranger - so there was to be a team. Again one character is easily replaced.

EltonJohn69 · 24-05-2021 9:09pm

They need to do a Darth Bane show

Agent Coulson · 18-06-2021 6:20pm

Disney have submitted Gina Carano for an Emmy :pac:

BEST DRAMA ACTOR
Pedro Pascal as The Mandalorian

BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Giancarlo Esposito as Moff Gideon
Temuera Morrison as Boba Fett

BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Gina Carano as Cara Dune

BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Omid Abtahi as Dr. Pershing (“The Siege”)
Michael Biehn as Captain Lang (“The Jedi”)
Bill Burr as Migs Mayfeld (“The Believer”)
Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker (“The Rescue”)
Simon Kassianides as Axe Woves (“The Heiress”)
Timothy Olyphant as Cobb Vanth (“The Marshal”)
Horatio Sanz as Mythrol (“The Siege”)
Carl Weathers as Greef Karga (“The Siege”)
Titus Welliver as Imperial Captain (“The Heiress”)

BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Rosario Dawson as Ahsoka Tano (“The Jedi”)
Diana Lee Inosanto as Morgan Elsbeth (“The Jedi”)
Misty Rosas as Frog Lady (“The Passenger”)
Katee Sackhoff as Bo-Katan Kryze (“The Rescue”)
Amy Sedaris as Peli Motto (“The Marshal”)
Mercedes Varnado as Koska Reeves (“The Rescue”)
Ming-Na Wen as Fennec Shand (“The Tragedy”)

BEST CHARACTER VOICE-OVER PERFORMANCE
Richard Ayoade as Zero (“The Passenger”)
John Leguizamo as Gor Koresh (“The Marshal”)

https://www.goldderby.com/article/2021/mark-hamill-gina-carano-the-mandalorian-cast-emmys/

Penn · 18-06-2021 6:24pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Disney have submitted Gina Carano for an Emmy :pac:

https://www.goldderby.com/article/2021/mark-hamill-gina-carano-the-mandalorian-cast-emmys/

In fairness, looking at that it seems the only person not nominated is the hand up Grogu's arse.

NIMAN · 18-06-2021 6:41pm

Her acting was pretty dire.

CastorTroy · 18-06-2021 8:29pm

When they're nominating people for characters they didn't even bother to name like Imperial Captain or Frog Lady, then no surprise Gina is nominated

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 4:40pm

Something in Carano’s contract maybe?

Or an over enthusiastic intern?

Tony EH · 20-06-2021 4:44pm

Might just be a sarcastic insider joke.

There cannot be anyone who really thinks her "acting" was worthy of any kind of award surely.

Conall Cernach · 20-06-2021 4:47pm

Tony EH wrote: »

Might just be a sarcastic insider joke.

There cannot be anyone who really thinks her "acting" was worthy of any kind of award surely.

They nominated Mark Hamill and all they did was use an old photo of him.

Tony EH · 20-06-2021 4:50pm

Conall Cernach wrote: »

They nominated Mark Hamill and all they did was use an old photo of him.

It was still better than Carano. :pac:

pixelburp · 20-06-2021 5:00pm

I think any noted or prestige production does this. Just propose all your cast and see who gets a nomination; they've put forward their various one note guest characters, I don't think it means anything Carano got the nod.

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 5:43pm

Tony EH wrote: »

Might just be a sarcastic insider joke.

There cannot be anyone who really thinks her "acting" was worthy of any kind of award surely.

Not much of a joke though.

It is just odd, not funny.

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 5:47pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I think any noted or prestige production does this. Just propose all your cast and see who gets a nomination; they've put forward their various one note guest characters, I don't think it means anything Carano got the nod.

Even so it is strange to put forward everyone.

And the fired Carano for the unpleasant social media. Did they not worry that some might be “offended” that they put her forward for a reward?

I’m rather surprise no one is clutching the pearls about this.

Be hilarious is actually got nominated. Be legend if she won.

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 5:49pm

What about Bad Batch and the Marvel shows?

Or the other Disney originals?

Did they also put in everyone’s name?

pixelburp · 20-06-2021 5:50pm

It's American awards, anything can happen. But if Carano won, the inanimate carbon rod that was her closest competition would feel aggrieved for missing out

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 5:59pm

pixelburp wrote: »

It's American awards, anything can happen. But if Carano won, the inanimate carbon rod that was her closest competition would feel aggrieved for missing out

I should know what that inanimate carbon rod is a reference to but as soon as I read it I started thinking of the Tub of Lard from Have I Got News for You and it is blocking my path to inanimate carbon rod.

Give me time. I want to see if I can get it without looking it up.

The White Wolf · 20-06-2021 6:09pm

pixelburp wrote: »

It's American awards, anything can happen. But if Carano won, the inanimate carbon rod that was her closest competition would feel aggrieved for missing out

It's amusing to me that it's Disney that have embarrassed themselves here in general with their ludicrous submissions, yet it's Carano herself that's getting bashed specifically.

pixelburp · 20-06-2021 6:19pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

It's amusing to me that it's Disney that have embarrassed themselves here in general with their ludicrous submissions, yet it's Carano herself that's getting bashed specifically.

Like I said, I believe a lot of shows do this with putting forward everyone, see what happens. Don't blame them TBH, can't win if you're not in. Carano gets the boot in cos she was always bloody awful, making the nominations a bit ludicrous in this case, yes.

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 6:28pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Like I said, I believe a lot of shows do this with putting forward everyone, see what happens. Don't blame them TBH, can't win if you're not in. Carano gets the boot in cos she was always bloody awful, making the nominations a bit ludicrous in this case, yes.

You make it sound like they sacked her for not being able to act.

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 6:30pm

Also, Micheal Biehn and Titus Welliver should have been saved for characters with much larger roles.

Although they could still be alien characters in another show.l

pixelburp · 20-06-2021 6:41pm

Need a Username wrote: »

You make it sound like they sacked her for not being able to act.

What? I never referenced her sacking. "Get the boot in" as in Carano being sledged for her bad acting.

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 6:51pm

pixelburp wrote: »

What? I never referenced her sacking. "Get the boot in" as in Carano being sledged for her bad acting.

Apologies,

I saw “Carano gets the boots cos”. I missed the “in”.

But that makes me confused. Doesn’t “Carano gets the boot in” means that she is the one sticking the boot in not getting the boo stuck into her?

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 6:52pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

It's amusing to me that it's Disney that have embarrassed themselves here in general with their ludicrous submissions, yet it's Carano herself that's getting bashed specifically.

Who is bashing Carano over this?

The White Wolf · 20-06-2021 6:54pm

Need a Username wrote: »

Who is bashing Carano over this?

Well you have two pages or so here off this news just having a laugh at her acting. She didn't put herself forward, Disney did.

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 6:57pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

Well you have two pages or so here off this news just having a laugh at her acting. She didn't put herself forward, Disney did.

Most of the conversation has been about how odd it is rather than how she can’t act.

The stuff being said about her isn’t bashing At all.

Also there doesn’t seem to be much embarrassment. Google “Star Wars” and you won’t find much talk of this.

pixelburp · 20-06-2021 6:58pm

This segue feels needlessly confusing

Disney undermined the "add everyone" tactic for awards season when it included noted Bad Actor, Gina Carano. That's kinda it really.

To the rest of the list, I actually forgot Titus Welliver was in an episode. That was a big waste of that excellent character actor, though he really brought great charisma to his small role.

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 8:17pm

Was the idea of Beskar created for this show? Or did it exist in the lore already?

I don’t remember Mando armour being shown to be indestructible in either The Clone Wars or Rebels.

Can we assume from the fact that the Jango/Boba helmet has the dent that it is not Beskar?

Can we also assume that Bo-Katan’s armour is also Beskar (been in her family for generations) and that Mando jumped in the way of Gideon’s shot out of instinct?

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 8:34pm

I’m hoping that in Season 3 and beyond we get to see Mando in action without the armour.

I love the armour and we have seen the character fight without the Beskar but occasionally I’d like to see him show how good he is without the indestructible suit.

Need a Username · 20-06-2021 11:20pm

pixelburp wrote: »

It's American awards, anything can happen. But if Carano won, the inanimate carbon rod that was her closest competition would feel aggrieved for missing out

By the way, I didn’t figure it out and had to look up the inanimate carbon rod.

Loafing Oaf · 21-06-2021 12:07am

Need a Username wrote: »

By the way, I didn’t figure it out and had to look up the inanimate carbon rod.

silverharp · 21-06-2021 9:15am

The White Wolf wrote: »

Well you have two pages or so here off this news just having a laugh at her acting. She didn't put herself forward, Disney did.

I did a quick search of the thread from old to new with "Carano" , and it basically went from "gina who?" to she was great during the time the show was on.

Now "everyone" agrees she is a terrible actor :pac:

Need a Username · 21-06-2021 9:29am

silverharp wrote: »

I did a quick search of the thread from old to new with "Carano" , and it basically went from "gina who?" to she was great during the time the show was on.

Now "everyone" agrees she is a terrible actor :pac:

Had people in the thread said they thought she was a good actor?

There is a difference between thinking she was great on the show to thinking she can or cannot act.

pixelburp · 21-06-2021 9:58am

I'm just knowingly salty about Carano because I hate actors who fail upwards by dint of their fighting experience; be it wrestling or MMA - though to be fair, Wrestling requires so much acting anyway, they usually have more to offer. The Rock didn't become the biggest star purely for his 'roided physique, the guy has charisma to spare. Someone like Katee Sackoff would have been so much better in the role - though obviously she has her own significant part in the show so not like she lost out.

Mitch Connor · 21-06-2021 10:05am

I thought she was fine in the role she had - I don't know if she could have been the mainstay of her own show though, which I believe was going to be the case before everything went sideways for her. Wasn't she going to be the star or a show based on her joining the rebels (as was the side story in season 2).

While fine as a secondary 'star', I don't think she had the acting chops to be the driving force of a show.

Need a Username · 21-06-2021 11:29am

pixelburp wrote: »

I'm just knowingly salty about Carano because I hate actors who fail upwards by dint of their fighting experience; be it wrestling or MMA - though to be fair, Wrestling requires so much acting anyway, they usually have more to offer. The Rock didn't become the biggest star purely for his 'roided physique, the guy has charisma to spare. Someone like Katee Sackoff would have been so much better in the role - though obviously she has her own significant part in the show so not like she lost out.

She was chosen for the role because her fighting experience. That is what Favereau wanted - an action star, not an actor.

Need a Username · 21-06-2021 11:41am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I thought she was fine in the role she had - I don't know if she could have been the mainstay of her own show though, which I believe was going to be the case before everything went sideways for her. Wasn't she going to be the star or a show based on her joining the rebels (as was the side story in season 2).

While fine as a secondary 'star', I don't think she had the acting chops to be the driving force of a show.

I don’t care about an actor/performer’s politics, religion or that they use social media. I like the character she played and would have been happy for her continue regardless of her carry on but I find it odd to put her forward for an acting reward and even more odd in light of the fact that they fired her so she woollens taint the brand.

It was all speculation that she was going to be the lead in the Tangers of the New Republic. And it was nonsense speculation - like you say she doesn’t have the acting chops. She was going to be part of an ensemble or a recurring guest star. Never the lead character.

People also think they canned that show because they fired her which is also nonsense. If she was a part of the show they would just replace her with someone else. Not abandon a series that is to be part of story connecting the shows. True show is most likely on hold because Favereau and Filoni have a lot of work on, because Covid is delaying a lot everywhere or they have had other ideas about or instead of the Rangers.

pixelburp · 21-06-2021 11:43am

Need a Username wrote: »

She was chosen for the role because her fighting experience. That is what Favereau wanted - an action star, not an actor.

Obviously

But I'd rather a good actor than a good fighter in any role that asks some degree of "significant" emoting; if that actor's a lead rather than just a heavy used for a set-piece. Especially as IMO it's easier to train an actor (see John Wick, or the MI films), or use a stunt-double, than asking a brick to convey emotion (see any Steven Segal movie lol). And given the very lead of this show wears a helmet, it's not like they weren't already using stunt doubles anyway.

Meh. She's a shíte actor who didn't really use her skill that much anyway, and is not jettisoned from the show... but this is probably the most a bit-part actor has been discussed in a TV show - so I'm going to agree to disagree on this conversation before everyone else completely falls asleep through boredom/repetition

Need a Username · 21-06-2021 1:17pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Obviously But I'd rather a good actor than a good fighter in any role that asks some degree of "significant" emoting; if that actor's a lead rather than just a heavy used for a set-piece. Especially as IMO it's easier to train an actor (see John Wick, or the MI films), or use a stunt-double, than asking a brick to convey emotion (see any Steven Segal movie lol). And given the very lead of this show wears a helmet, it's not like they weren't already using stunt doubles anyway.

Meh. She's a shíte actor who didn't really use her skill that much anyway, and is not jettisoned from the show... but this is probably the most a bit-part actor has been discussed in a TV show - so I'm going to agree to disagree on this conversation before everyone else completely falls asleep through boredom/repetition

What emoting was required of the character?

She exists to be a heavy and not to be a part of drama. And why have a stunt double that will probably require VFX or hiding the face other ways when you can have the stunt performer do the job.

She wasn’t a bit part. She was a supporting character.

As to the snark about continuing the topic, I had already changed the subject. The reason the conversation about Carano is continuing is that you are one who is continuing it.

pixelburp · 21-06-2021 1:38pm

Need a Username wrote: »

What emoting was required of the character?

She exists to be a heavy and not to be a part of drama. And why have a stunt double that will probably require VFX or hiding the face other ways when you can have the stunt performer do the job.

She wasn’t a bit part. She was a supporting character.

As to the snark about continuing the topic, I had already changed the subject. The reason the conversation about Carano is continuing is that you are one who is continuing it.

Wasn't snark, was just having a chuckle after replying to a post of yours, replying to my own. And now you're continuing the discussion again... so you're being as bad as me

Agree to disagree was meant to be friendly capper to the segue so *shrug*. I'm taking the last word :pac:

Need a Username · 21-06-2021 3:09pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Wasn't snark, was just having a chuckle after replying to a post of yours, replying to my own. And now you're continuing the discussion again... so you're being as bad as me Agree to disagree was meant to be friendly capper to the segue so *shrug*. I'm taking the last word :pac:

I changed the subject yesterday. You participated in continuing the topic that you say you don’t want to continue.

That makes you badder than me.

You can’t the last word because I want it now but if really, really really want it then I might be persuaded to guve it to you.

flazio · 27-08-2021 10:50pm

There's a new episode of "Disney Gallery" covering the Luke Skywalker ending.

There's an irony in how much they concentrate on how much work it took to do the deep fake and then someone on YouTube does it better at home and they end up hiring him.

CastorTroy · 28-08-2021 1:00am

Strange thing is that they went back to footage and interviews he did from the time of the first film even though he looked different at that time prior to the accident.

His body double, Max Lloyd-Jones, did look like him. I know that was the point but I'd say he could get away with playing Luke if they didn't want to keep using deep fake to bring him back

pixelburp · 24-09-2021 2:42pm

So this won an Emmy this week for Best FX (to no great surprise TBH); as a result ILM released a quick rundown of the various types of FX used throughout season 2. A surprising amount of miniature and stop-motion work was used, for what was often trivial or throwaway background detail...

https://youtu.be/Rd39daKZCI8

EoinMcLovin · 29-09-2021 6:05pm

https://twitter.com/bobafett/status/1443229086709547009?s=19

---

1800_Ladladlad · 21-11-2021 1:00pm

Gina Carano got sacked for much less than this... or will people tie themselves in knots defending Pedro he/him eulogizing a convicted pedophile. He works for Disney, what is he thinking

https://twitter.com/PedroPascal1/status/1462130966533578755

Homelander · 21-11-2021 3:07pm

Not a good look IMO. Voicing an opinion that you don't agree with the verdict is fine but calling Rittenhouse a murderer and holding up a convicted paedophile as a martyr is a bit much.

Star Wars: The Mandalorian [** Spoilers **] [Disney+] (US Pace)

Comments

Star Wars: The Mandalorian [ Spoilers ] [Disney+] (US Pace)