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Eurovision Song Contest 2021

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  • #1472
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Thinking about it a bit more - the problem is RTE.

    They want to 'own' the Eurovision entry.

    But again, they are so fuppin dislocated from music culture in Ireland.

    FYI above - the Dervish song was written by John Waters........how in Gods name do you decide, given the amount of great song writers we have, that we'll get John Waters to write a song.


  • #1473
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,880 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Thinking about it a bit more - the problem is RTE.

    They want to 'own' the Eurovision entry.

    But again, they are so fuppin dislocated from music culture in Ireland.

    FYI above - the Dervish song was written by John Waters........how in Gods name do you decide, given the amount of great song writers we have, that we'll get John Waters to write a song.

    at least if we sent someone lik dervish with a song that suited them they could rip it up , they are brilliant live. if they come last so be it

    like say problem is they give them a john waters written song

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  • #1474
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Thinking about it a bit more - the problem is RTE.

    They want to 'own' the Eurovision entry.

    But again, they are so fuppin dislocated from music culture in Ireland.

    FYI above - the Dervish song was written by John Waters........how in Gods name do you decide, given the amount of great song writers we have, that we'll get John Waters to write a song.

    From memory he wrote the song and submitted it to the competition , as was his right as a member of the public


  • #1475
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,824 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    :D Nice to see she's kept her sense of humour amidst the disappointment.

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  • #1476
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    ednwireland wrote: »
    they sent dervish a few years ago and gave them a song which didnt suit their style at all, so made a mess of that as well

    Completely agree, though they should have know to rearrange it to suit themselves, I was watch TG4 a few weeks ago and they came on and were much better than what they did for eurovision. Nice song and good band but not good together.


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  • #1477
    jaffa20
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    I think Switzerland have the best song this year.


  • #1478
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭SteM


    Why would any artist that has been nominated for a Choice music award ever want to be involved in the eurovision? Come on, we all know it's a cheesefest. Would be the end of their career.


  • #1479
    forumdedum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    SteM wrote: »
    Why would any artist that has been nominated for a Choice music award ever want to be involved in the eurovision? Come on, we all know it's a cheesefest. Would be the end of their career.

    This


  • #1480
    [Deleted User]
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    SteM wrote: »
    Why would any artist that has been nominated for a Choice music award ever want to be involved in the eurovision? Come on, we all know it's a cheesefest. Would be the end of their career.

    It’s made some careers.

    Billie Ellish is mostly of Irish descent right? She could give it a go.


  • #1481
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    We sent 2 sparkly camp lads singing a catchy song about putting on your makeup. If that didn't work nothing will so mabye it's time to stop trying desperately to win

    It's at least 25 years since we made any sort of attempt at winning, let alone a desperate one. We barely attempt to get out of the semis.


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  • #1482
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    fvp4 wrote: »
    It’s made some careers.

    Billie Ellish is mostly of Irish descent right? She could give it a go.

    I don't think the singer needs to have any connection to the country they represent


  • #1483
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭SteM


    Yeah, when Billie Ellish wins then we could have The Script the following year followed by Snow Patrol. I'm sure we could talk Bono and the lads into giving it a shot too.


  • #1484
    Elmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    SteM wrote: »
    Yeah, when Billie Ellish wins then we could have The Script the following year followed by Snow Patrol. I'm sure we could talk Bono and the lads into giving it a shot too.

    You might get The Script at this stage.


  • #1485
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,142 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Flying Fox wrote: »
    It's at least 25 years since we made any sort of attempt at winning, let alone a desperate one. We barely attempt to get out of the semis.

    We actually try really hard to follow the winning trends we just fail.


  • #1486
    [Deleted User]
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    SteM wrote: »
    Yeah, when Billie Ellish wins then we could have The Script the following year followed by Snow Patrol. I'm sure we could talk Bono and the lads into giving it a shot too.

    Bono and SP wouldn’t be cool enough.

    Naw stick with Billie. She could easily write a Eurovision type winner. We’d give her freedom of Dublin in response.


  • #1487
    LillySV
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭LillySV


    Jesas, I just watched what we sent to the Eurovision.... she can’t sing!!!!absolutely dreadful ....and then the stupid tacky paper bits beside her... pure crap.... u can’t blame anyone but ourselves for funding and allowing the deciding board to send such a mediocre (at best) artist to represent us


  • #1488
    Busi_Girl08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,652 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Ooof, just announced there on Facebook that Duncan Laurence (2019 winner) has tested positive for Covid. Wonder will the presenter who handed him the award on Tuesday will be affected :/


  • #1489
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    SteM wrote: »
    Why would any artist that has been nominated for a Choice music award ever want to be involved in the eurovision? Come on, we all know it's a cheesefest. Would be the end of their career.

    Why?

    Its a chance to perform in front of millions.

    What performer would not want that.

    Say what you want about Lesley Roy - here song has 3 million hits on YouTube.

    Some brilliant Irish songs in the past year - Anseo by Denise Chaila for example - have a small fraction of that.


  • #1490
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,142 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Why?

    Its a chance to perform in front of millions.

    What performer would not want that.

    Say what you want about Lesley Roy - here song has 3 million hits on YouTube.

    Some brilliant Irish songs in the past year - Anseo by Denise Chaila for example - have a small fraction of that.

    Different audience. Would take up a lot of your time and effort to play a gig that would not get you where you want to go.


  • #1491
    forumdedum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Why?

    Its a chance to perform in front of millions.

    What performer would not want that.

    Say what you want about Lesley Roy - here song has 3 million hits on YouTube.

    Some brilliant Irish songs in the past year - Anseo by Denise Chaila for example - have a small fraction of that.

    Most performers straight into obscurity almost immediately after.

    I wouldn't call Anseo a brilliant song. I don't get the whole Denise Chaila thing at all. Could be my age. Also I have pretty much zero interest in Rap or songs with mostly spoken word. I don't consider it music.


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  • #1492
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,142 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    forumdedum wrote: »
    Most performers straight into obscurity almost immediately after.

    I wouldn't call Anseo a brilliant song. I don't get the whole Denise Chaila thing at all. Could be my age. Also I have pretty much zero interest in Rap or songs with mostly spoken word. I don't consider it music.

    No wonder you don't get it if you hate rap and spoken word


  • #1493
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Different audience. Would take up a lot of your time and effort to play a gig that would not get you where you want to go.

    A different audience that is bigger.

    The numbers dont lie.

    Devils advocate - what would be the harm in it.

    The upside is that at least we could have a song that represents us.


  • #1494
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭SteM


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Why?

    Its a chance to perform in front of millions.

    What performer would not want that.

    Say what you want about Lesley Roy - here song has 3 million hits on YouTube.

    Some brilliant Irish songs in the past year - Anseo by Denise Chaila for example - have a small fraction of that.

    Her song has 3 million hits on youtube and she'll be forgotten about in 6 months time. What is the long term benefit for her? She's not going to grow an audience through it.


    People on this thread have been posting that singer/songwriter Molly Sterling's entry in 2015 was a very good song (I honestly can't remember it). That was 6 years ago, how is Molly Sterling's career going?


  • #1495
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    forumdedum wrote: »
    Most performers straight into obscurity almost immediately after.

    I wouldn't call Anseo a brilliant song. I don't get the whole Denise Chaila thing at all. Could be my age. Also I have pretty much zero interest in Rap or songs with mostly spoken word. I don't consider it music.

    There is a very significant rap and spoken word scene here.

    Whether you like it or not, it represents the type of contemporary music found in Ireland in 2021.

    Unlike Lesley Roy's song.


  • #1496
    forumdedum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    There is a very significant rap and spoken word scene here.

    Whether you like it or not, it represents the type of contemporary music found in Ireland in 2021.

    Unlike Lesley Roy's song.

    Yes I know there is a scene. I don't classify it as music.


  • #1497
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Christy Moore would be brilliant if he could be convinced to do it

    Imagine him on stage with Declan Sinnott and maybe Steve cooney

    Dramatic ballad ....

    and then have the curtain fall and Kila absolutely belting into a trad session

    Technicolour lasers and digital background

    It would be a show stopper


  • #1498
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Christy Moore would be brilliant if he could be convinced to do it

    Imagine him on stage with Declan Sinnott and maybe Steve cooney

    Dramatic ballad ....

    and then have the curtain fall and Kila absolutely belting into a trad session

    Technicolour lasers and digital background

    It would be a show stopper

    May or may not be a showstopper but at least people in Ireland could get behind it......


  • #1499
    forumdedum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    Colm Wilkinson regretted Eurovision. He stopped what he was doing to represent Ireland in it. Says he was very lucky to get back into Broadway. Very old interview somewhere in the archives. Pre internet.


  • #1500
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,431 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Christy Moore would be brilliant if he could be convinced to do it
    Imagine him on stage with Declan Sinnott and maybe Steve cooney
    Dramatic ballad ....
    and then have the curtain fall and Kila absolutely belting into a trad session
    Technicolour lasers and digital background
    It would be a show stopper

    I think one of the rules of EV is you can only have 6 people on stage.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #1501
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,929 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Christy Moore would be brilliant if he could be convinced to do it

    Imagine him on stage with Declan Sinnott and maybe Steve cooney

    Dramatic ballad ....

    and then have the curtain fall and Kila absolutely belting into a trad session

    Technicolour lasers and digital background

    It would be a show stopper


    A giant snake gyrating across the stage and at the end a cloud of confetti shamrocks!


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