Eurovision Song Contest 2021

gmisk

Fine Cheers wrote: »

All I know is that I watched Maps once on youtube last night to see what the all the fuss was about.
I woke up humming the the tune and now can't get it out of my head.
Not sure what that is a sign of !!

The studio version is solid, the semi final performance especially the vocals were ropey.

dalyboy

Having just watched the performance and it’s no surprise it didn’t qualify.
It was almost as if the singer is out of tune and the background animations is like something a child would do from an fun iOS app.

breezy1985

gmisk wrote: »

The studio version is solid, the semi final performance especially the vocals were ropey.

I wouldn't be surprised to here her come out and say there were problems on the night. Nerves or prob issues or both. No way anyone goes to Eurovision with that and thinks they had a chance.

Elmo

dalyboy wrote: »

Having just watched the performance and it’s no surprise it didn’t qualify.
It was almost as if the singer is out of tune and the background animations is like something a child would do from an fun iOS app.

If you had a small stage and wanted it to look massive, it would have worked, the problem was they have a massive stage with an audience so its not until the last moments that she interacts with them.

She is Ireland's answer to Kelly Clarkson. It might have worked 15 years ago.

RTÉ need to bring back Eurosong and allow a public vote.

road_high

I don’t think it was just the “gay dancers” that helped Ryan do better in 2018- the song was really good, I heard it on the radio a while back and remarked the same. He had good vocals, performance and staging

gmisk

Elmo wrote: »

If you had a small stage and wanted it to look massive, it would have worked, the problem was they have a massive stage with an audience so its not until the last moments that she interacts with them.

She is Ireland's answer to Kelly Clarkson. It might have worked 15 years ago.

RTÉ need to bring back Eurosong and allow a public vote.

I agree.
I think the last time the public picked a song was 2015? (Molly sterling who should have made the final imo..7th with Juries). Nicky Byrne was after that...talk about nepotism in RTE...

The whole closed shop of them picking the artist hasn't worked at all. They clearly don't have a clue what they are doing if we only manage to qualify once in eight years.

Welsh Megaman

Germany’s backing dancer reminded me of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb2Rwgo0N4U

Man Vs ManUre

gmisk wrote: »

Weird and wacky upbeat modern pop?
Did you miss the song Portugal won with?
Or the most recent winner? Or Ukraine?
So 3 out of the last 4 winners were a world away from weird and wacky upbeat modern pop

The style doesn't inherently matter in Eurovision, the cream generally rises to the top.

I haven’t really watched it much since the horrible crowd were booing Dustin, but I remember in recent years a song about a chicken and another by a bearded lady have won. And last year it was said that Iceland were certain to win, I looked at their song on YouTube and thought it was crap and a bit dull, though weird and wacky at the same time.

odyssey06

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I haven’t really watched it much since the horrible crowd were booing Dustin, but I remember in recent years a song about a chicken and another by a bearded lady have won. And last year it was said that Iceland were certain to win, I looked at their song on YouTube and thought it was crap and a bit dull, though weird and wacky at the same time.

Check out Sweden's winners from 2015 and 2012

Elmo

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I haven’t really watched it much since the horrible crowd were booing Dustin, but I remember in recent years a song about a chicken and another by a bearded lady have won. And last year it was said that Iceland were certain to win, I looked at their song on YouTube and thought it was crap and a bit dull, though weird and wacky at the same time.

This is how I look at Eurovision

Wacky wins sometimes
A good song also wins
And if you don't have either you get neigbourly votes winning it.

forumdedum

gmisk wrote: »

The studio version is solid, the semi final performance especially the vocals were ropey.

Autotune

HeidiHeidi

forumdedum wrote: »

Autotune

Someone definitely switched that off last night - Malta was about the first act that I felt were fully in tune the whole time.


I see there are 18 songs on tomorrow night, 10 to go through. 16 last night. Why didn't they have 17 each night? That's just set my teeth on edge!

Iceland won't be performing live tomorrow night.

mailforkev

Eurovision needs to be looked at as it's own mini-universe, particularly the current format with the semis.

Generally the best pop songs do go through, but there are also always a couple of "Eurovision-style" outliers that also go through. These are usually at least interesting if not the best songs ever, perhaps an okay song but with excellent staging or, occasionally, a novelty factor.

The songs that any regular Eurovision viewer, with any knowledge of pop music, thinks will win in the final do usually come in the top 5.

You can't be in the middle ground of average song and/or boring singing and staging.

Welsh Megaman

Ireland’s Eurovision fallout is one of the topics being discussed on ‘Liveline’ later, washyourhandswashyourhands!

MisterAnarchy

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

Ireland’s Eurovision fallout is one of the topics being discussed on ‘Liveline’ later, washyourhandswashyourhands!

Not going to get much objectivity on an RTE programme.

Beechwoodspark

next year we should do a sort of greatest hits song with the “dream team” Linda Martin, Dana, J Logan, Niamh kavanagh all appearing on stage. I think that would be a success if done right.

AndyBoBandy

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

next year we should do a sort of greatest hits song with the “dream team” Linda Martin, Dana, J Logan, Niamh kavanagh all appearing on stage. I think that would be a success if done right.

And a hologram of Gerry Ryan to present the act.

jams100

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

next year we should do a sort of greatest hits song with the “dream team” Linda Martin, Dana, J Logan, Niamh kavanagh all appearing on stage. I think that would be a success if done right.

Linda Martin?
NO THANKS...This is all I can think of whenever her name

Elmo

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

And a hologram of Gerry Ryan to present the act.

That's a tad much

10000maniacs

There are two distinct things going on here.
People in Europe still remember Dustin.
And the quality of the acts we are sending over are Sunday night karaoke quality year in year out.
Lesley Roy is probably a great person, but she can't sing. Why do RTE send people over who can't sing?
Iceland and Monaco send over great singers year in year out and their population is a fraction of what ours is.
There is no excuse for this crap.

gmisk

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I haven’t really watched it much since the horrible crowd were booing Dustin, but I remember in recent years a song about a chicken and another by a bearded lady have won. And last year it was said that Iceland were certain to win, I looked at their song on YouTube and thought it was crap and a bit dull, though weird and wacky at the same time.

There is difference between having fun with an act...and taking the piss.
Sending a turkey puppet in a shopping trolley was taking the piss. It deserved to be booed.
"Bearded lady" who could sing and belted out a ballad. Netta the chicken one...was a pop song it wouldn't have been my choice but it was original.
The song from Iceland last year was a pretty big hit in a lot of Europe and even non Eurovision fans seem to like it.

Maybe just don't watch it or listen to the songs if you don't enjoy it.

RobertKK

Look at Ukraine, even the official video is pure class.

Atlantic Dawn

It's a little like wrestling compared to boxing.

pauldry

We are not crazy enough for the new Eurovision or have any Miley Cyrus, Arianna Grandes or Lada Gagas

If we had some lady like Cyprus singing for us all the Livelines would melt with thats exploitation of a lovely girl.

Welsh Megaman

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Not going to get much objectivity on an RTE programme.

Caller: “RTE just aren’t willing to spend...”

Joe: “Sorry, you’re breaking up there, caller. Washyourhands.”

Mike Murdock

Lesley would have been better off writing and submitting a song like this...

10000maniacs

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Lesley would have been better off writing and submitting a song like this...

That auto-tune sound does her no favours. She would be kicked off The X Factor in round one.

gmisk

gmisk wrote: »

There is difference between having fun with an act...and taking the piss.
Sending a turkey puppet in a shopping trolley was taking the piss. It deserved to be booed.

To be fair to Dustin, he got the voting system changed to the 50/50 public/jury.

Welsh Megaman

Radio gold on ‘Liveline’ at the moment.

Joe keeps pushing the idea of sending Father Ray Kelly next year...he’s not even joking.