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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #1652
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,913 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    I’m afraid Goldengirl a Professor who makes unfounded, no data claims that Covid could increase the chances of autism during pregnancy is an absolute disgrace of the highest order. This same professor was a near permanent resident of RTÉ and other media organisations for the last 12 months.
    Having another member of this organisation on national radio today making further unsubstantiated claims with a presenter clearly on the ISAG side is a National disgrace. They didn’t want any reopening whatsoever at any stage during this pandemic.
    This group is directly responsible for giving people false information throughout this pandemic with a huge cost on many people’s lives & were given a national platform to do so. This should be investigated & they should not be given airtime until they answer what their objectives are & why they were using a terrorist manual in their ‘tactics’ to scare the Irish public rather than providing facts.

    No I totally agree with you CruelSummer . They are a disgrace and should have been reefed out of it for a lot of the tripe they have been coming out with since Christmas.
    I posted as much earlier this afternoon on the thread .
    But their is some unbalanced criticism which is bordering on witch hunt here .


  • #1653
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,913 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    No hang on, it’s not without reason.

    They have repeatedly been given carte blanche across all Irish media platforms to spout entirely speculative, worst case nonsense.

    They call themselves scientific but they are anything but.

    They consistently involve children in their wildly inaccurate, doom laden predictions and as a father of two small children that’s personally unforgivable.

    Just one example, last summer on Eamon Dunphys podcast Tomas Ryan came up with a figure of 104 dead children if we didn’t open the schools properly. He then asked how many children died during the troubles?

    This is not science. It’s pure emotional blackmail and manipulation.

    They know exactly what they’re doing. We’ve seen the leaked emails. It’s insidious and reprehensible.

    So that’s why they’re hated from some quarters here.

    I heard that podcast but would have seen it as this will happen if we don't do x or y .

    What they have been saying since Christmas amounts to conspiracy theory mad stuff so I have tuned them out , turned them off , don't read or listen to them .
    Only listen to those I can learn from , and that one's voice goes through me ( McLysaght ) , so switch the channel if she is on.
    If you have small kids or are pregnant this bs is toxic alright


  • #1654
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,913 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Can I suggest to people to email complaints @ rte.ie and complain about this group / shows / presenters who are letting them rant freely and unchallenged.
    Very effective when it's in writing and can't be ignored .
    We all have a right to at least some explanation from them and RTE have been getting away with a lot the last year .


  • #1655
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,750 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    This is funny .
    But the level of hate for these ISAG people knows no bounds here :D

    Do you believe it to misplaced?


  • #1656
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    So...given it will be in the near enough future when I'm hoping to get a vaccine, and always having wondered whether I could have had covid before (asymptomatic/minor symptoms perhaps), I've ordered an antibody test for €74.

    Yes, a fool and his money are easily parted perhaps. Anyway, a home testing kit sent out, you do blood pricks, and send back to lab.

    Who knows, more curious than anything :)

    So took my blood sample (250ul about 10 drops). Courier collected Monday morning (DHL medical express), arrived in Lab in Germany this morning.
    Got results this evening - no antibodies (lgG) and "a quantitative evaluation of antibodies against the spike protection (S1 antibodies) was also performed."

    So, never had it, but either way, glad I did the test, even if it's not a particularly relevant test to take what with vaccines now on stream.


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  • #1657
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    No hang on, it’s not without reason.

    They have repeatedly been given carte blanche across all Irish media platforms to spout entirely speculative, worst case nonsense.

    They call themselves scientific but they are anything but.

    They consistently involve children in their wildly inaccurate, doom laden predictions and as a father of two small children that’s personally unforgivable.

    Just one example, last summer on Eamon Dunphys podcast Tomas Ryan came up with a figure of 104 dead children if we didn’t open the schools properly. He then asked how many children died during the troubles?

    This is not science. It’s pure emotional blackmail and manipulation.

    They know exactly what they’re doing. We’ve seen the leaked emails. It’s insidious and reprehensible.

    So that’s why they’re hated from some quarters here    .

    And supported and defended by the other 3/4’s on here


  • #1658
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭Polar101


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    And supported and defended by the other 3/4’s on here

    Maybe I'm blind, but I haven't seen any "support" for ISAG here (not counting the occasional newly registered poster who last a day).

    Most experts who share their opinion publicly get a slagging here, so you wouldn't have 3/4 of people behind them.

    ..And before someone says "NPHET", I don't think they get a 75% approval rating either. :)


  • #1659
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Can I suggest to people to email complaints @ rte.ie and complain about this group / shows / presenters who are letting them rant freely and unchallenged.
    Very effective when it's in writing and can't be ignored .
    We all have a right to at least some explanation from them and RTE have been getting away with a lot the last year .

    I do think it's obvious at this stage that RTE's role (whether it was imposed on them or they chose it) during this whole thing has been to scare people into following restrictions.

    Claire Byrne in particular has taken to the role like a duck to water. The amount of absolute nonsense, hysteria-making at times and other times child-like segments ("now I have a hurl in my hand. that signifies sports. people wouldn't get their heads around this idea if I didn't have the hurl. They'd be like 'sport? me not know sport'. Will we be allowed sports under the new guidance?"), has been on another level.


  • #1660
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Maybe I'm blind, but I haven't seen any "support" for ISAG here (not counting the occasional newly registered poster who last a day).

    Most experts who share their opinion publicly get a slagging here, so you wouldn't have 3/4 of people behind them.

    ..And before someone says "NPHET", I don't think they get a 75% approval rating either. :)

    I suspect there are ISAG people who post here including on the travel threads. Either that or they are copying and pasting narrative from here into posts, tweets and interviews in subsequent days.


  • #1661
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,618 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    ISAG sound like a bunch of lunatics


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  • #1662
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GeorgeBailey wrote: »
    I do think it's obvious at this stage that RTE's role (whether it was imposed on them or they chose it) during this whole thing has been to scare people into following restrictions.

    Claire Byrne in particular has taken to the role like a duck to water. The amount of absolute nonsense, hysteria-making at times and other times child-like segments ("now I have a hurl in my hand. that signifies sports. people wouldn't get their heads around this idea if I didn't have the hurl. They'd be like 'sport? me not know sport'. Will we be allowed sports under the new guidance?"), has been on another level.

    Remember when she casually held up those two plastic pints to the camera, making light of beleaguered hospitality. Imagine a frustrated publican watching on, his doors bolted for over a year. RTÉ have not covered themselves in glory throughout the pandemic, trivialising the struggles of certain sectors while beating the "stay at home" mantra into the ground. Then you have George Lee one step removed from a nervous breakdown, for he cannot entertain optimism. Any pretense of impartiality has descended into fawning appreciation of NPHET, a cringeworthy debacle in its own right. Thank goodness we're on the threshold of re-opening society proper or there would be nothing but spiralling debt and tumbleweeds left.


  • #1663
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    I suspect there are ISAG people who post here including on the travel threads. Either that or they are copying and pasting narrative from here into posts, tweets and interviews in subsequent days.

    Tbh - I aven't seen anything here or on travel threads copied or pasted from ISAG

    Have you links to these comments?


  • #1664
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Covid is last months news . We've moved on


  • #1665
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Seems to be an outbreak in UCC, Cork according to reports
    Few outbreaks in Schools too.

    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40293704.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


  • #1666
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,120 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Covid is last months news . We've moved on

    Your posting this week would suggest otherwise. ;)


  • #1667
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Covid is last months news . We've moved on

    Thanks can you let me know what forum everyone's headed off to.. I left my coat here and so had to come back and get it.


  • #1668
    Boggerman12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Boggerman12


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Seems to be an outbreak in UCC, Cork according to reports
    Few outbreaks in Schools too.

    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40293704.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
    Ucc are lucky that the one and only Gerry Killeen on hand to sort it!


  • #1669
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    Thanks can you let me know what forum everyone's headed off to.. I left my coat here and so had to come back and get it.

    We've moved on to Palestine and the housing crisis .


  • #1670
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Looking at the weather, you’d have to just laugh at the idea of an outdoor summer.

    The weather in Ireland can never be guaranteed, even in July/August.


  • #1671
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Looking at the weather, you’d have to just laugh at the idea of an outdoor summer.

    The weather in Ireland can never be guaranteed, even in July/August.

    It's not going to be like this week for the entire summer.

    Calm down!!! :eek:

    You're beginning to sound like George Lee.


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  • #1672
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Seems to be an outbreak in UCC, Cork according to reports
    Few outbreaks in Schools too.

    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40293704.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter




    UCC are all online though?


  • #1673
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    eskimohunt wrote: »
    It's not going to be like this week for the entire summer.

    Calm down!!! :eek:

    You're beginning to sound like George Lee.

    Bad May, good summer in my experience....to the weather forum


  • #1674
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    UCC are all online though?
    House parties and end of year celebrations aren't online though.


  • #1675
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Have to laugh at people trying to handwave away the Irish weather, is there anything that they won't try to argue for in the name of the almighty covid?

    There will be good days and bad days, same as every Irish summer. The issue isn't that there aren't any good days, it is that you cannot rely on them. Pick a day for your wedding/party/dinner/meeting and it might be nice, or it might be a drizzling **** like it is today. You won't know until the day.

    And they want an industry to build a business model around that?

    The people who dismiss the problem just show how much contempt they have for the whole issue. They don't really care about it, they would be just as happy to shut the whole thing down indefinitely.


  • #1676
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    marno21 wrote: »
    House parties and end of year celebrations aren't online though.

    Exactly

    Good few school cases in North Cork too

    Leaving Cert 'graduation' parties from students who aren't doing the leaving cert but are happy with predictive grades

    I hope I'm wrong but when county data is pieced together there will be a decent proportion of cases in Cork


  • #1677
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    eskimohunt wrote: »
    It's not going to be like this week for the entire summer.
    .

    It certainly wouldn’t be a surprise if the weather stayed like this for much of the Summer in Ireland.

    We do have a rather unpalatable climate for outdoor life.


  • #1678
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Looking at the weather, you’d have to just laugh at the idea of an outdoor summer.

    The weather in Ireland can never be guaranteed, even in July/August.

    Its only rain , you can still go outside. Society has become very strange about the weather. Rain and cold does not equal an awful day. Understandable to a point obviously for certain events but its gone abit too far now at this stage.


  • #1679
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Its only rain , you can still go outside. Society has become very strange about the weather. Rain and cold does not equal an awful day. Understandable to a point obviously for certain events but its gone abit too far now at this stage.

    You really sound like you live a sheltered life, which is ironic considering your argument.


  • #1680
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    nocoverart wrote: »
    You really sound like you live a sheltered life, which is ironic considering your argument.

    How?


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  • #1681
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    wadacrack wrote: »
    How?

    if you think we can enjoy an outdoor summer in this climate.


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