Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Electric Picnic has more chance of going ahead then an indoor show at this rate. This plan were getting soon which will aid us get out of lockdown should be fun

Wil there be an Outdoor Autumn/Winter like this 'outdoor summer'

Boggles wrote: »

Were you contention to make the Olympic team?

It may be postponed again.

1) How does that matter - A national championship is meaningless without the 98% of us who aren't Olympic contenders

2) The Olympics will not be postponed/ cancelled. They'll be a miserable experience, but they will be going ahead.

The only way the Games can be cancelled is if IOC do so, as that's what the contract states. The IOC will not pull the plug. Too much money at stake, and many sports which depend heavily on the financial windfall from IOC every 4 years would be in ruin.

Boggles wrote: »

You just said it matters for athletes chasing Olympic spots.



I would have agreed with that statement last week, not so sure this week, the vast majority want it cancelled.

They don't get to choose if it gets cancelled or not. The IOC do. See my previous post.

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Is there any other European country that is so slow at opening up as ourselves?

https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1394929316551561227

The theory among the NPHET sympathisers on here is that if France aren’t opening bars and restaurants for 24 hours a day it’s pointless reopening at all.

Keep them closed all day like Ireland plans to for almost another month

charlie14 wrote: »

We were not told "hold out for another 3 weeks". We were told we were opening outdoor dining and pub service outdoors on June 7th because at that point we will be at the same level of those vaccinated as the U.K. was when doing the same successfully.

Why would anybody want to do it differently ?
It`s not as if some European countries have shown themselves as the sharpest knives in the drawer when it came to relaxing restrictions when they got the vaccination level wrong, and had to not only apply the handbrake, but engage reverse gear.

I get your point and you explain it well but what happens if a roadblock is hit (variant, vaccines mess up etc)

The last England reopen is the most important one on the road to normality imo

PTH2009 wrote: »

I get your point and you explain it well but what happens if a roadblock is hit (variant, vaccines mess up etc)

The last England reopen is the most important one on the road to normality imo

So, we should do what england are doing, except when it comes to pubs, where we should do the exact opposite.......

Got it.

Pal mine in Connecticut USA told me tonight they have more mask wearing and all night clubs open from tonight.

In two weeks all live concerts are back there too, sign of things to come yippee

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The theory among the NPHET sympathisers on here is that if France aren’t opening bars and restaurants for 24 hours a day it’s pointless reopening at all.

Yeah...I'm pretty sure that's a statement you can't back up.

gozunda wrote: »

Except we're not backward at all. And this is why ...

Some people equate backwardness with not being able to have a pint rather than saving as many lives of the elderly, vulnerable, general population as possible.

Says a lot.

Degag wrote: »

Some people equate backwardness with not being able to have a pint rather than saving as many lives of the elderly, vulnerable, general population as possible.

Says a lot.

I see this a lot on here and I think it's just said for petty point scoring and to make people feel better about themselves.

Fact is, you don't know how this has affected others.
You have no clue how it's affected posters in this thread in terms of finances, in terms of their occupation, in terms of 15 months of working from home and how it feels like Groundhog Day and how it would drive them nuts. I've read over the last year how some people loved surfing, hiking etc and they couldn't do that for the best part of 15 months. That was taken away from them! That could easily affected them
You don't know how many theatre people are on here or how many musicians or people who working in the performing arts. Their world is totally ruined and they are getting no hope from anybody at Government level or NPHET. What about people who have loved ones abroad, who they miss dearly and who they want home and they can't right now, for at least another few months? I can tell you one thing, NPHET's approach at times and their attitude/wording hasn't helped people's, shall we say, patience for the situation...

Bottom line is, and it's the one time I think I can speak for everyone, no one here in this thread wants anybody else to be sick or for anybody to die. Not just from COVID 19 but from anything!
But the fact you presume that people are venting because "they want a pint" is just totally ignorant!

This is a once in a lifetime thing. People react differently, people have been affected differently, people have had and this is a key phrase here, their worlds turned upside down in ways we don't know. Two things I've learned over the last 3 years are;
1. Know the full story before basing an opinion
2. Try to be understanding towards what others go through and how they see things.

Or, you can just disregard anything I've just said and accuse people, who want an end to things, of "just wanting pints"

Your call...

One bit of advice, be very careful who you say that to in the real world. Depending on how they've been affected by this, they would probably swing at you

MOR316 wrote: »

I see this a lot on here and I think it's just said for petty point scoring and to make people feel better about themselves.

Fact is, you don't know how this has affected others.
You have no clue how it's affected posters in this thread in terms of finances, in terms of their occupation, in terms of 15 months of working from home and how it feels like Groundhog Day and how it would drive them nuts. I've read over the last year how some people loved surfing, hiking etc and they couldn't do that for the best part of 15 months. That was taken away from them! That could easily affected them
You don't know how many theatre people are on here or how many musicians or people who working in the performing arts. Their world is totally ruined and they are getting no hope from anybody at Government level or NPHET. What about people who have loved ones abroad, who they miss dearly and who they want home and they can't right now, for at least another few months? I can tell you one thing, NPHET's approach at times and their attitude/wording hasn't helped people's, shall we say, patience for the situation...

Bottom line is, and it's the one time I think I can speak for everyone, no one here in this thread wants anybody else to be sick or for anybody to die. Not just from COVID 19 but from anything!
But the fact you presume that people are venting because "they want a pint" is just totally ignorant!

This is a once in a lifetime thing. People react differently, people have been affected differently, people have had and this is a key phrase here, their worlds turned upside down in ways we don't know. Two things I've learned over the last 3 years are;
1. Know the full story before basing an opinion
2. Try to be understanding towards what others go through and how they see things.

Or, you can just disregard anything I've just said and accuse people, who want an end to things, of "just wanting pints"

Your call...

One bit of advice, be very careful who you say that to in the real world. Depending on how they've been affected by this, they would probably swing at you

Some people are venting because they want a pint yes

Others vent because they can’t see a loved one

Others vent because they can’t play a round of golf

Other people vent about their finances

We all have different things we vent about. Some are more important than others though.

My overall point is that pretty much every ‘vent’ has to come secondary to people living and dying.

And if you put having a pint above that then you are fairly backward. And i can’t wait till i get back in a pub.

PTH2009 wrote: »

Its more frustration looking at how other countries are less restrictive

Not when we don't get a reason why they were shut for so long and why we were one of the most restricted countries in the world

What do you mean you haven’t gotten a reason why we were in lockdown for so long?

And why do you automatically think that because other countries become less restrictive they are doing better than us?

Degag wrote: »

What do you mean you haven’t gotten a reason why we were in lockdown for so long?

And why do you automatically think that because other countries become less restrictive they are doing better than us?

Because we have a ****e health system in which the public can do F all about

There's people getting paid lots to do that job

MOR316 wrote: »

I'm sure they don't but, other people see it differently and feel differently

The bolded and underlined part is an interesting one...This isn't a go at you, it's more of a general statement...But, what gives you or me the right to say what's more important than other things to some people?

For example, I had an urgent project I needed to finish for work... I didn't do it because I couldn't find my favourite jumper and looked for that instead. That was more important in my mind

In regards the restrictions, take this for example.
The Concern ads on TV. Starving and dying children...One of the more important things in life...Do you give a fiver instead of buying a pint?

Of course there are things that are more important to one person than another, that’s my overall point.

The thing is though, that none of these things can, or at least should, override life and death.

And in the grand scheme of things, yes there is a level of importance there, at an overall level, not an individual level. So getting people back to work is more important then getting someone a pint. Even though they are all inextricably linked, because someone needs to be employed to pull that pint in a pub; but the point remains.

People need to look at the big picture. It’s hard but you have to. Hopefully this is nearly over and we won’t have to anymore!

PTH2009 wrote: »

Because we have a ****e health system in which the public can do F all about

There's people getting paid lots to do that job

Can you quantify ‘****e health system?’ Why do you think that? Presumably in the context of Covid?

We are now vaccinating in excess of 5% of our population every week.