Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

ginoginelli wrote: »

The die hard pro AZ zealots on here are becoming intolerable. Constantly cherry picking data and proclaiming it a better vaccine than the mrna ones. They're almost as bad as the anti vaxxers with their lack of objectivity.

My view is that AZ i s a very solid vaccine and we are starting to see excellent real world data now, but there are still some issues with it that have rightfully given people and countries pause for thought.

Phizer has by far the preponderance of high quality data out of all the vaccines. Even way more than moderna. It's perfectly reasonable that people are preferring it over any of the others.

I not being a “die hard AZ zealot”. I’m trying to be balanced and fair. We would not be able to get out of this pandemic if it were not for all of the major vaccines. Yet, people on these boards are commenting on AZ and J&J as if they are second-rate. All of the vaccines are excellent and the real world data is showing this.

revelman wrote: »

I’ve seen the data saying that antibodies are the same but I have not seen anything T Cells being the same after the second dose. Can you point to something? I would be interesting to see,

Its in the article you posted from the IrishTimes!
Read to the bottom

The researchers then looked at another arm of the immune system, the T cells that destroy infected cells. They found that T cell responses were weaker when the booster was delayed, but settled down to similar levels when people were tested more than three months after the first shot.

Goldengirl wrote: »

Its in the article you posted from the IrishTimes!
Read to the bottom

Oh, I misunderstood your initial post. I thought you were referring to data comparing the T Cell response between Pfizer and AZ after the second dose.

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Anecdotally, in the urban areas at least, they will be vaccinating the 50 year olds this weekend. I know a good few 50 year olds (spread across Cork, Dublin and Limerick) and they are all going to be done by Sunday at latest. That being so, it seems to me that in the urban areas they went from 57s last weekend to 50s this weekend. This seem right? If so, does it look like the 45 to 49s getting done mostly by the following weekend, i.e. by Sunday 30th?

I say your pretty much in the ballpark. Some areas that will be happening it appears.

I wish we could have the vaccine stats to give us a better picture of where we stand at the moment though.

average_runner wrote: »

Would chase your GP, medical condition the gp's were looking after.
Ring them now

They've contacted two of the family's doctors and they won't see them! They said the HSE is taking people in their 60's and they won't.

Jellybaby_1 wrote: »

They've tried it but when they enter their information the system closes and tells them they've already registered and to ring the HSE helpline, which they've already done several times without much help. That's why I asked for the link in case they're using a different link.

Do they see any consultants for their conditions? That could be another avenue to explore.
I recommended contacting local politicians when you posted the other day. It worked for a large number of over 60s who were much later getting their vaccines in Meath. Please don't dismiss it as an option.

Jellybaby_1 wrote: »

They've tried it but when they enter their information the system closes and tells them they've already registered and to ring the HSE helpline, which they've already done several times without much help. That's why I asked for the link in case they're using a different link.

That sounds like they are trying to register again?
They should be able to login to see the status from what I understand.

Jellybaby_1 wrote: »

Can you give a link to that portal, we've never even seen that much information about our family's account.

You say family's account but each individual has to register themselves.

JPA wrote: »

That sounds like they are trying to register again?
They should be able to login to see the status from what I understand.

Which is why I asked for the link.

You say family's account but each individual has to register themselves.

There are two family members, and each have a separate account.

JPA wrote: »

Ok, and can they login?

When it asks 'already have an account', they enter their password so I believe they are logging in. Have you got the link for the portal so I can check with them please.

Jellybaby_1 wrote: »

When it asks 'already have an account', they enter their password so I believe they are logging in. Have you got the link for the portal so I can check with them please.

https://vaccine3.hse.ie/s/login/

^^^ Mods can we get the link in OP for the threads

Thanks everyone for your interest but this is just going round in circles. Don't worry, more phone calls will be made as per all the suggestions here.

Jellybaby_1 wrote: »

Thanks we'll check if its the same.

Do. The login will show the status. Something may have gone wrong with the phone numbers because one could have been missed but 2 is weird.

2nd dose of Pfizer done today. I'm absolutely chuffed.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I didn't realise you cannot get the vaccine 2nd dose if on antibiotics

One of my sons was about a week over the chicken pox when he went for his mmr. The nurse said he was a bit pale and decided to reschedule him for the next week. His temp and humour was fine and the child is like porcelain anyway but she said if his immune system is fighting something and then we introduce a vaccine, he may not build enough antibodies for what he's being vaccinated for. So it wasn't that the vax would make him sicker but that his response to the vax would be weaker. So I assume thats the same for abx or any other r illness with a Covid vax.

On another note, I was waiting the 15mins after my vax today and one Dr was speaking to another about a 72 y/o patient who hasn't been well enough to attend any Pfizer clinics and they were reading a NIAC report and decided he could get the AZ tomorrow as over 50. So it's not just Pfizer being given outside of the 50 and 60 y/o

Third dose may be trialled in UK

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57174733