Eurovision Song Contest 2021

Capt'n Midnight · 18-05-2021 09:20PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

That must be the worst thing Germany has ever done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAEUrp2V4ss

ACitizenErased · 18-05-2021 09:21PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Those born after 2000 might not realise there was a time people actually cared about the ESC even though it was very camp and weird prior at the best of times.

It was the introduction of televoting in the late 90's that really destroyed it as any credible event.

Nowadays it's a running joke that needs to be put out of it's misery.

Very consistent with ridiculous comments tbf to ya

Arturo Delgado · 18-05-2021 09:21PM

Every year I say the same thing. If RTE don't want to win it, stop entering. Rather than wasting money on songs that have no chance of even making a final. If we are to take it seriously again, then we need a national song contest revived. Give the young and old indeed, songwriters a chance and get ten songs to a final vote. How can we randomly select bang average acts for the last 20 years with very few exceptions and keep on doing it.

gmisk · 18-05-2021 09:22PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ireland's entry was a odds-on qualifier among virtually every single Eurovision media outlet. It wasn't the song that got us knocked out tonight.

Eurovision media outlets...I would pay little attention to what they say.

Betting odds we were a non qualifier...everywhere

MisterAnarchy · 18-05-2021 09:23PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

It's their own fault really being so far away.

Everybody needs good neighbours.

Australia should have won it last time out with Zero Gravity.
The staging of that song was sheer brilliance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo5H62mCIsg

CruelSummer · 18-05-2021 09:23PM

The most underrated song Ireland has sent in the last decade is Molly Sterling, Playing with Numbers. Great song, melody, singer, presentation. Still baffles me why it didn’t qualify.

Arturo Delgado · 18-05-2021 09:24PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ireland's entry was a odds-on qualifier among virtually every single Eurovision media outlet. It wasn't the song that got us knocked out tonight.

Ireland was definitely not an odds on qualifier at any stage. That is a fact, the bookies know.

ACitizenErased · 18-05-2021 09:24PM

gmisk wrote: »

Eurovision media outlets...I would pay little attention to what they say.

Betting odds we were a non qualifier...everywhere

All the major outlets have called the winner and qualifiers year after year.

Panrich · 18-05-2021 09:25PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ireland's entry was a odds-on qualifier among virtually every single Eurovision media outlet. It wasn't the song that got us knocked out tonight.

You could have got 7/1 on Betfair for us to qualify. In a field of 10 qualifiers from 16, those odds tell you all you need to know.

gmisk · 18-05-2021 09:25PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

All the major outlets have called the winner and qualifiers year after year.

I don't know about that, betting odds tend to be a much better indicator imo.
Those Eurovision sites tend do qualifiers based one studio versions etc as well sometimes.

archfi · 18-05-2021 09:26PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Anyone see this? Much better song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjAejydm7lk

Never heard of that at all until now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_European_Song_Contest
I like that the UK is broken up, England and Scotland sent tunes.
And 'The Moon' is a competitor too

I just don't understand why we couldn't send something like that this year (now it's not my cup of tea but at least it's original and a bit rousing like)
I don't care if Lesley Roy was hard done by last year to be honest because last year her song was also awful and cringeworthy - whoever originally picked her to represent Ireland needs their head testing.

gmisk · 18-05-2021 09:27PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

The most underrated song Ireland has sent in the last decade is Molly Sterling, Playing with Numbers. Great song, melody, singer, presentation. Still baffles me why it didn’t qualify.

It was fantastic.

I think it was ahead of its time, it wouldn't be out of place against Arcade etc. It is the one Irish song in recent years that was extremely hard done by.

Indestructable · 18-05-2021 09:27PM

Stuck a few euro on Ukraine each way.

Arturo Delgado · 18-05-2021 09:29PM

And it was a baffling stage production from Ireland tonight and I'm afraid the singing wasn't great. Times have moved light years ahead of Rock n Roll Kids or In Your Eyes.

gmisk · 18-05-2021 09:30PM

Arturo Delgado wrote: »

Every year I say the same thing. If RTE don't want to win it, stop entering. Rather than wasting money on songs that have no chance of even making a final. If we are to take it seriously again, then we need a national song contest revived. Give the young and old indeed, songwriters a chance and get ten songs to a final vote. How can we randomly select bang average acts for the last 20 years with very few exceptions and keep on doing it.

Totally agree.
And not some thrown together shambles on the late late as a final.

breezy1985 · 18-05-2021 09:30PM

Arturo Delgado wrote: »

And it was a baffling stage production from Ireland tonight and I'm afraid the singing wasn't great. Times have moved light years ahead of Rock n Roll Kids or In Your Eyes.

Still the greatest ever Eurovision winner though

Arturo Delgado · 18-05-2021 09:30PM

Indestructable wrote: »

Stuck a few euro on Ukraine each way.

I'm tempted too. It's going to be open this year and I don't like betting in an open year. I like to throw all the money on a sure thing, which Holland was last time.

Larbre34 · 18-05-2021 09:32PM

breezy1985 wrote: »

Still the greatest ever Eurovision winner though

Rubbish. Niamh Kavanagh was the best of all of Ireland's wins. RARK was the worst.

OOnegative · 18-05-2021 09:32PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Ah bollocks

Ffs get Johnny Logan to go again next year

https://youtu.be/ps3kxGo_gro

Only man that will win it for us again!!!

gmisk · 18-05-2021 09:33PM

Arturo Delgado wrote: »

I'm tempted too. It's going to be open this year and I don't like betting in an open year. I like to throw all the money on a sure thing, which Holland was last time.

Very open year.

I have bet on top 10
Cyprus and Serbia (it's trash but catchy)

And top 5
Lithuania and Iceland

I think it's partially because two of the big 6 are really fancied Italy and France. I expect Malta to fly up betting after that performance

Man Vs ManUre · 18-05-2021 09:34PM

Time to bring back Dustin.

mailforkev · 18-05-2021 09:34PM

This thread is always one of my annual favourites.

Are the people in charge of picking our song still in their jobs because someone’s too embarrassed to fire them or what?

Every single year, I’m able to pick out at least 8 of the 10 going through each semi final, and I’m just some guy on a couch, it’s not rocket science.

18-05-2021 09:35PM

Arturo Delgado wrote: »

Every year I say the same thing. If RTE don't want to win it, stop entering. Rather than wasting money on songs that have no chance of even making a final. If we are to take it seriously again, then we need a national song contest revived. Give the young and old indeed, songwriters a chance and get ten songs to a final vote. How can we randomly select bang average acts for the last 20 years with very few exceptions and keep on doing it.

AND WE'LL DO THE SAME NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!..

Arturo Delgado · 18-05-2021 09:35PM

Marty's we wuz robbed schtick is funny because he gets to say it every year now.

gmisk · 18-05-2021 09:36PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Rubbish. Niamh Kavanagh was the best of all of Ireland's wins. RARK was the worst.

She was a great winner.

But for all the people saying we need to send Johnny Logan....look what happened when we sent Niamh Kavanagh again?
We need to try something new, new team to pick song and singer for a national competition need to look forward not back.
As it is now only a matter of time before Sweden win and overtake us with most winners.

breezy1985 · 18-05-2021 09:37PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Rubbish. Niamh Kavanagh was the best of all of Ireland's wins. RARK was the worst.

So good its even an acronym now

Arturo Delgado · 18-05-2021 09:38PM

mailforkev wrote: »

This thread is always one of my annual favourites.

Are the people in charge of picking our song still in their jobs because someone’s too embarrassed to fire them or what?

Every single year, I’m able to pick out at least 8 of the 10 going through each semi final, and I’m just some guy on a couch, it’s not rocket science.

It's the national broadcasters preogative I guess,. They can send who they want. I suppose we could petition them into reviving a national song contest but there would have to be a concerted effort for months and not just a few days in May to make them listen.

All that fandango · 18-05-2021 09:39PM

Had a listen again of Ukraine to see what all the fuss is about. Feckin ragin Think About Things (Dadi Freyr lad) couldnt enter again this year.

Arturo Delgado · 18-05-2021 09:40PM

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Time to bring back Dustin.

National embarrassment that was....I love Dustin, but wow, that one backfired

yerwanthere123 · 18-05-2021 09:43PM

blackcard wrote: »

When you have 10 out of 16 countries qualifying and Ireland have only qualified once in the last 6 years, it is time to give up

Not at all. Just send a decent, well executed song and we'll do well. It's a really simple format ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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