Vaccine Megathread - See OP for threadbans

duffman13 · 18-05-2021 10:14AM

Pharmacies this morning being sounded out about delivering Pfizer and the capacity to do so. Great news particularly for more rural locations and should hopefully play a part in ensuring a good equal distribution of vaccines across the country

is_that_so · 18-05-2021 10:16AM

Flying Fox wrote: »

NIAC advice is that an mRNA vaccine should be used in people in their 40s. AZ and J&J can only be offered if an mRNA is unavailable, and the person has the right to choose to wait for an mRNA if they are not comfortable with the clotting risk. There is absolutely no indication that this would put someone to the back of the queue, that would defeat the whole purpose of offering a choice.

Are you honestly suggesting that the policy would be to vaccinate everyone in their 30s and 20s before coming back to people in their 40s? If so, you're misinterpreting the advice.

I'm repeating the HSE line, reject two appointments and you go to the back of the queue. That's what they say.

is_that_so · 18-05-2021 10:20AM

Russman wrote: »

But that's the current arrangement, no ? If there are new guidelines for people in their 40s to be allowed refuse one of the viral vector jabs until an mRNA one is available, it can't be the same arrangement as refusing a jab now, sure nothing would have changed. They couldn't be seen to be penalising people the same as now, if people exercise the choice that NIAC have mandated be available to the 40s group.

One rejection is allowed anyway. If they are indicating they want to go back into the system for an mRNA shot instead that's consistent with the policy. TBH this whole AZ/J&J reworking seems more like a way to ensure there will be new recipients at the end of June for them.

18-05-2021 10:27AM

is_that_so wrote: »

I'm repeating the HSE line, reject two appointments and you go to the back of the queue. That's what they say.

Russman asked if there's any reason to refuse AZ/J&J if offered, if you have no concerns about the risk. You replied with:

"Based on your own perceived level of risk it really depends how long you are prepared to wait. The back of the queue might not start until nearer September."

You're clearly suggesting that if someone doesn't consent to AZ/J&J on their first appointment, they go to the back of the queue. That is a misinterpretation of the advice.

Nobody mentioned anything about rejecting two appointments. In any case, exercising the choice that NIAC has provided is not the same thing as rejecting an appointment.

18-05-2021 10:28AM

All Astrazenica at greystones today despite the appointments saying pfizer
They ran out of pfizer yesterday
I brought someone up there
They're announcing it at the door as you go in
Some got a text about this last night some didn't
Portal still says pfizer even though its astrazenica

FlubberJones · 18-05-2021 10:31AM

Some of the team from the office (50-59) have their appointments and seem to be getting pfizer, this would be in the Landsdown vaccination site. Are other people seeing this also?

ddarcy · 18-05-2021 10:32AM

is_that_so wrote: »

I'm repeating the HSE line, reject two appointments and you go to the back of the queue. That's what they say.

That was also before the latest guidance. That will be changing.

In fairness the HSE were looking at 45+ for AZ/JJ, so I don’t think this is quite a disaster as some may think. Their submission indicated that they fully planned on all under 45s to get mRNA.

By allowing choice some may opt into AZ/JJ. I believe AZ is going in the bin though, there is really no reason to take it when you have 3 better options on the table. So would be the only downside.

Honestly I know a lot of people who would take JJ just for convenience. At the start of this if I was given a choice that I s the one I would have picked. Especially in the way the HSE is handling the rollout now.

Chris_5339762 · 18-05-2021 10:47AM

73 and 74 year old parents getting their second Pfizer this morning. They were very late getting their first, so it means that the 70+ age group should be winding up fairly soon.

Pauliedragon · 18-05-2021 10:47AM

So it looks like us 40's will get a choice of J&J or Astra vaccine. I'm 41 and am not in anyway nervous about the vaccine and don't really care which one but I'm leaning towards J&J simply because it's 1 jab. Just curious to my brethren out there who put a 4 in front of their age when writing it on a form does anyone have a specific preference and why or is it just a case of "which sleeve do you want me to roll up doc?"

The Raging Bile Duct · 18-05-2021 10:50AM

Pfizer or Moderna just based on their efficacy.

josip · 18-05-2021 10:50AM

Most 70+ are fully vaccinated
Most 60-69 have gotten 1 dose
Most 50-59 have at least an appointment for their first dose

It's the 18th of May

JCX BXC · 18-05-2021 10:50AM

Presumably you don't get a choice of which specific vaccine you want? You only get to choose whether accept a non MRNA, if that's what's offered to you.

18-05-2021 10:51AM

The HSE keep changing the date of my 2nd appointment. I've had 3 different dates so far. Similar situation for the first appointment.

The Raging Bile Duct · 18-05-2021 10:52AM

JCX BXC wrote: »

Presumably you don't get a choice of which specific vaccine you want? You only get to choose whether accept a non MRNA, if that's what's offered to you.

You don't have a choice at the moment. You could refuse and say you'll wait for your preference but you could be looking at a much longer wait for the vaccine.

SusanC10 · 18-05-2021 10:53AM

JCX BXC wrote: »

Presumably you don't get a choice of which specific vaccine you want? You only get to choose whether accept a non MRNA, if that's what's offered to you.

Yeah, that is my understanding. J&J or AZ only to be used on Ages 40-49 if no Pfizer or Moderna available at the time of vaccination. Only then are people offered a choice of whichever is available or else wait for Pfizer or Moderna to become available.

SusanC10 · 18-05-2021 10:54AM

josip wrote: »

Most 70+ are fully vaccinated
Most 60-69 have gotten 1 dose
Most 50-59 have at least an appointment for their first dose

It's the 18th of May

When do you reckon that they will open the portal for 40-49?

silver2020 · 18-05-2021 10:55AM

I'll take what I'm given without complaint

Zipppy · 18-05-2021 10:55AM

FlubberJones wrote: »

Some of the team from the office (50-59) have their appointments and seem to be getting pfizer, this would be in the Landsdown vaccination site. Are other people seeing this also?

All 50s I know have got or are getting Pfizer...

Qrt · 18-05-2021 10:55AM

Is it only GPs who write the second appointment date on your vaccination card when you get it? My mother’s is blank, done at MVC.

votecounts · 18-05-2021 10:55AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

When do you reckon that they will open the portal for 40-49?

was just about to ask this question

Lumen · 18-05-2021 10:58AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

When do you reckon that they will open the portal for 40-49?

2 days ago Paul Reid said "later next week".

SusanC10 · 18-05-2021 11:01AM

Lumen wrote: »

2 days ago Paul Reid said "later next week".

So Week beginning May 24th then, I guess ?

jellybear · 18-05-2021 11:02AM

Mater Hospital (Dublin) sending out texts, reply yes or no, if you want a vaccine. Just information for anyone who may be waiting to hear from them. My name was put forward by my consultant.

Sadler Peak · 18-05-2021 11:03AM

silver2020 wrote: »

I'll take what I'm given without complaint

Aye, same here.

bargainboy · 18-05-2021 11:03AM

Pauliedragon i would go with the pfizer given the choice, not because of any vaccine fears but rather because if you get the pfizer the follow up dose is supposed to be given four weeks later as where the astra,s follow up dose is anything up to 16 weeks and with the Indian variant almost certainly about to push the numbers right back up it what i will go for.

Lumen · 18-05-2021 11:04AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

So Week beginning May 24th then, I guess ?

Dates? We are not worthy of dates. We must only wonder at the meaning of next and pray that it comes soon.

Lumen · 18-05-2021 11:05AM

Eh, seriously though, if Greystones (and possibly elsewhere) are doing 52 year olds already then they're going to run out of people to first-vaccinate before the end of this week, so opening it now would make sense.

loyatemu · 18-05-2021 11:08AM

Johnson - single dose, in and done. With AZ I'd be waiting 12 weeks for the second dose and with Pfizer I could be waiting an extra month for the first dose.

The minor differences in efficacy are irrelevant if the incidence of the disease continues to drop & they're all highly effective at preventing serious illness. The blood clot risks are miniscule AFAIK.

Kintarō Hattori · 18-05-2021 11:09AM

I haven't been keeping up on things, how does getting the vaccine work? Do you get a notification, do you have to sign-up, make an appointment somewhere?

My apologies for my lack of knowledge on this.

stephenjmcd · 18-05-2021 11:09AM

Qrt wrote: »

Is it only GPs who write the second appointment date on your vaccination card when you get it? My mother’s is blank, done at MVC.

Blank on my mothers also, they said she'd get a text with the details for dose 2

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